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Old 07-27-2016, 09:55 PM   #1
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Is Bishop actually on the side of the Kraang?

Anyone who knows of the 2k3 series knows Bishop was the founder and head of the of the EPF. While he isn't evil, he is by no means a friend of the Turtles because he is not afraid of sacrificing innocent people in order to achieve a goal. Especially if said innocent people were a quartet of mutant turtles and a mutant rat that very few people were likely to miss.

In fact, he more often exploited the Turtles for his plans more often then he tried to eliminate them.

But with the nick show, however, Bishop is the exact opposite of what he was in the 2k3. That he's not only an Alien but a benevolent one who the Turtles at least can consider an ally.

However last September, I had asked this...

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I liked this incarnations view on Bishop. It's interesting he's an alien this time around, when he was originally a government agent who hated Aliens. And thus began the EPF to combat alien threats. Since Bishop is an utrom, will Dirk Savage be closer to Bishop's 2k3 role?
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Nope, you'll just have to see if Bishop comes back 😉
While I was pacing about in my room today, I was thinking about Bishop and something occurred to me that Bishop has a couple of interesting moments in the show. The first is in his debut episode where Bishop and Kraang Sub Prime meet.

There is this interesting exchange:

KSP: Bishop?! You filthy, swindeling, Kraang!

Bishop: I am an Utrom, just as you once were Brother! Or shall I call you Kraang Sub Sub-Prime.

KSP: Don't call me that! You know I hate that!


And later in War for Dimension X

Kraang Sub-Prime says this:

"Everyone hates conformity until they try it

Now while the whole government agent with the secret military branch set on stopping alien invasions could still work with Bishop as an utrom. Because it could be a means of keeping track of the Kraang and stopping their invasions. But that seemed too easy.

First off the only time we see the EPF is the second invasion.

That organization couldn't have formed over the course of the year between the first and second invasion. Particularly with how bureaucratic our government actually is so in order for this military branch to exist, it would have had been formed long before the first invasion.

So assuming the EPF was an active branch before the first invasion, we can possibly assume that the invasion was initiated and done with before they could scramble the troops and ammunition to deal with it. Unless they were forbidden to deploy.

But what if the EPF was actually a front for something that was part of the Kraang themselves. After all the last we see of them in the second invasion is when they are fighting Kraang Prime...we are left believing they have been defeated. And in Return to New York, we see them all outfitted with the Kraang mind control devices so they can turn away and kill anyone who tries to enter the city

And in war, the most dangerous enemies you have are the ones that are on your own side.

So could it be possible that Bishop is actually an agent for the Kraang?

I know what some people are thinking, why would he fight against his own side if he was truly the side of the Kraang.

And the reason for that is to maintain their trust. In some video games, books,TV shows and anime there is a character who you feel is an all around good guy and then when their character 180's and becomes a villain, it's a bit of a shock for the everyone in the show. And if done right, even the viewer or reader is shocked at this betrayal because it's something no one sees coming before it's too late. And even when it is clearly obvious that the person in question is not to be trusted, they are still at times seen as a benign threat before revealing just how dangerous they actually are. Such as Varys and Petyr Baelish in Game of thrones.

But in other video games such as fallout, there are missions and side stories where you have to befriend a crime syndicate or an organization. You absolutely have to gain their complete trust before you ultimately stab them collectively in the back.

Take for example the Fugitoid. The Turtles throughout the six months he's with them they learn to trust and value him as a friend and ally. And then when he admits that he was the person who created the Heart of Darkness, and willingly sold it to the Kraang, the impact is a slap in the face for all of them. But Leo, Raph, and Casey see the betrayal has him using them to get them to get the heart of darkness. Whereas Donnie, Mikey, and April give him the benefit of the doubt and state that the Fugitoid made a mistake and that he was trying to make amends for it. And later everyone realizes the betrayal itself was meant to get them off the ship so that he could sacrifice himself and the Heart of Darkness with it.

Bishop on the other hand the Turtle's didn't trust at first because they've equated the Kraang and everything associated with them as evil. And Bishop does tell them that the Utrom had broken away from the Kraang Hivemind centuries ago.

But later during War for Dimension X they reveal that Kraang Prime had been an utrom scientist and brainwashed most of the Utrom into serving him. However, if Bishop had broken away from the Kraang Hivemind as he said...what if that was what he wanted everyone to believe?

What if he was actually a Mole for the Kraang the whole time?

He says he was going against utrom law by involving the Turtles in the fight against the Triceraton's. And in War for Dimension X, yes the Kraang followed the Turtles to the Utroms hiding place, but Kraang Sub-Prime were able to get in rather easily.

Also all of the Utrom council are robot bodies that the Turtles have encountered before such as Mrs. Campbell, and Irma. But all have a whiteish tinge to them, where as, Bishop is the same color as the Norman suits.

But it also could be possible that the Utrom are not as benevolent as they would appear either.
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