Man of Steel 2

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Have to disagree with you, sir. Cavill Supermans just fine. The points where he's allowed to full-on be Superman, they work fantastically.

1. When is he full on being Superman?
2. What's your idea of a full on Superman?

He doesn't ever Superman. Not once.
He Batmans a bit, and says words. I don't believe a word he mumbles.
It all feels false and insincere.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Granted, he doesn't become a fully formed Superman until the end of Man of Steel... and then, granted again, until he remembers he already became Superman at the end of the last movie near the end of BvS again.

I hate the "hero needs to learn to be the title character routine. I can't stand it. 78 skipped it, covering it with some rando insane Brandoing.

Insane Brando > learning to hero. It was true in 76, and still true today.

What it means to be a Superman is in the doing. Superman is the greatest hero, not Peter Parker. His whole schtick is working to hide how F'ing amazing he is, not learn to be amazing. It's backwards, and essentially the problem.
Xmen need to learn how to fit in. Xmen are about figuring out how to control their powers. Superman is about restraint, and solving problems we can't, then solving problems his power can't. Snyder doesn't understand any of that.

Superman is the second most recognized character on Earth, after Jesus. I'd site the source, but I read that years ago, and I'm sure it's still true-ish.
We don't need to watch he learn his opowers - ther are 10 YEARS of Smallville if that's your bag.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Imagine Cavill in just about any scene back in Superman: The Motionless Picture, and it'd work just fine. Possibly better, no disrespect to Reeve.

Yeah, that's wrong. No disrespect to you, but, no. The guy is terrible.

Reeve wasn't exactly the greatest actor either, dude was wooden in every other role, ever. He sucks in everything else but, maybe Street Smart, but who the **** remembers that movie?

Reeve was unwatchable, in everything, except when he played Superman.

Cavill can't even do that.

I get you have a certain taste, you like stuff I think is terrible, so i get you're view point, I just don't see Superman as the 90's era emo angsty loser. Taht's not who he is to me. And I agree, '78 doesn't have a whole lot of action, but it flows, perfectly as a film. It tells an entire story, and for it's day, had some of the most innovative special effects of it's time.

MOS & BVS already look dated, and it's only been a few years. Despite all the "action", people were bored.

punchy punch is only exciting when it's real, or at least the stakes are high. Otherwise, it's total filler, and a total waste of screen time.