Star Wars Episode 8

[sdp]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Spoiler:

I thought it dealt a lot with themes of nostalgia getting in the way of actual forward progress. The greater good of the long game vs the momentary elation of a quick win. How a change of address doesn't magically make one's problems go away. Grief, and the unhealthy ways we deal with it. Rigidity of thought and action, and how that's incompatible with life.

Stuff like that, which might not be your jam, but it sure as heck is mine.

Haha sorry but you're reaching with most of your points.

Spoiler:

What theme of nostalgia getting in the way of progress? Because of the Jedi and Luke/Yoda saying it was ok for it to end?
You're looking too much into it when the movie ends with Empire vs underdog Rebels, now that is nostalgia getting in the way.

What Long game? That the resistance escaped so the first order "didn't" win when Kylo Ren wanted to "end it once and for all" but instead "the war just begun"? ugh, I can't believe going back to the status quo is something interesting to you.

Change / grief cannot be just be ignored/dealt with like that? Isn't that the same thing that we saw with Obi Wan and Yoda in the OT?

I don't know what movie you watched but you're being really forgiving of the flaws, did it have cool moments? Sure, but storytelling took a huge hit for the sake of having Empire vs Rebels again.

About Finn: Instead of being treated as a main character, he was more of a side character, I guess they didn't feel confortable in having a Black man be he main focus of the movie again, and maybe the inter-racial relationship wasn't what Disney wanted? He was supposed to be a hero, in TFA we saw him go from a coward to accepting his fate in doing something about it. Here the only heroic thing he did was try to disable the tracker which not only did he do it poorly but also failed at it.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Watching it tonight about 11. I wonder if my having read all the spoilers will temper my expectations.

Who knows, it might not be as bad as you imagined so you'll like it more than you thought and have a positive opinion on it or since you already know the major twists than had you wondering it might be even more boring. Though there are a few smaller things that haven't been mentioned that I'm not sure will be your cup of tea either.