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Old 10-28-2018, 07:23 AM   #11
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Against who's rules, also I don't take orders from you.

For every Zero-To-Hero stories there are a thousand more about people staying in their social situation and some that have them downgrade. Also your anecdotal evidence doesn't really debunk that its harder to not only make a living but climb up social ladders in the last 50 years.

So let me get this straight if people do follow your advice then job scarcity, if they don't then they can't support themselves. That sounds like a lose/lose situation, do you know the concept of a "good advice" is. Also most college students don't get useless degrees like sociology
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...seless-majors/
Also vocational schools also have their downsides too for example most of them aren't adaptable and get lost over time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...cation/529161/

I wouldn't call earning less than 40 grand a year to be thriving especially again with higher prices in housing and medical bills.

So why do you act like you do, whenever I bring up stuff that effects everyone in the country and you use anecdotal evidence in order to try to debunk my claims or underwhelm it by saying "Well I know people who are doing just fine" without any sense of nuance.

Again one person doesn't really reflect the whole system.

You say that we should't listen to illegal immigrants sob story but you give me a sob story to show how bad the system is. Also I don't need to experience what ever you experience to see how badly the decked is stacked I evidence and citations, here are some if you want to learn something.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/us-h...ters-poll.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-...8-to-2018.html
https://health.usnews.com/health-car...e-than-illness

There are Mexican kids who get separated from their parents for wanting a better life yet you call them moochers and again you aren't the one to criticize people listening to "Sad Tales" when you have given me nothing but "Sad Tales" also if you are honestly sad about the veterans getting treated like crap you would blame the systems at be that spend money taking care of them instead of us getting into pointless wars and buying stuff they nobody needs or just wants to feed the military industry complex.

How are they going to start a revolution with nothing, you do remember that America is a country with a huge history of immigrants wanting a better life right.

Except we barely spend it on research most of it is spent on tanks and jets we barely use. Don't believe me look at how China is succeeding in making a railgun. Keep in mind China only has a fraction of the military budget we have.
https://taskandpurpose.com/china-ele...un-deployment/

To answer your bear trap analogy you take the third option and push the lever that frees your leg and go to the doctor. You don't have to bullhead every situation and sometimes the easier path is the better one.

Okay you do know the human race needs to continue right, Japan right now is following your example and their work population is aging more and their economy is in shambles. Its kinda funny I actually hate it when people tell others that they should have kids but you are on the opposite of the spectrum and I find you equally as wrong.

No but people are avoiding hospitals and killing themselves over student debt, so not that much a false equivalence.

You Promise, I have given you evidence and citation and all of you given me is a "Promise", promises mean jack my friend.

Look at literally every developed country in the world and see how wrong you are.
https://www.investopedia.com/article...ge-tuition.asp
https://truecostblog.com/2009/08/09/...hcare-by-date/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/...uality-of-life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by _income_equality

TLDR Work smarter not harder, instead of telling people "You should work harder" how about make it easier for them to learn a new skill or trade and support themselves. There is nothing wrong with fixing the system to benefit the people
They choose those jobs. Those stats are currently changing. The fastest growing college graduate is hispanic women. Keep cherry picking stats that fulfill your ******** though.

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source. Even the sources on the wikipedia site don't account for said income inequality. Income inequality has far more to do with personal choices.

Oh, and if the income equality was SOOO bad, as you say, then why do these economic migrants risk death to come to these oppressive western society? It's almost like real life EASILY refutes all your sophist nonsense.

And no one is avoiding hospitals. Getting medical insurance through one's college is easy. I was able to get coverage in college. I'm one of those marginalized people you're talking about too. I know, I know. I don't agree with your BS, so it's just easier to ignore me (reality) than refute my claims. You lose.

It is funny that you cry about Mexican kids when A LITERAL MEXICAN is telling you you're wrong. Oh well. Keep living in your echochamber.

20 years ago your stats would make a little more stats. I vaguely remember reading that only about 15 percent of latinos entered a college level program. Today, About 30 percent of Latinas age 25-30 have graduated with a associates or higher. White women only account for 40. The gaps you're talking about are going away, and have been for the past 10 years.

But keep talking about outdated stats. I'm glad we have a white savior like you (sarcasm).

The way you talk about my people is so condescending and disrespectful. It's almost like you're saying that if not for you white saviors that us poor Mexicans wouldn't be able to wipe ourselves. Do you not see how ****** that is? It's really messed up that you think the way you do.

I'd ask you to really evaluate you own ideology and to look at reality for what it actually is but I know you aren't capable of it.

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