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Old 12-17-2020, 02:27 PM   #14
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Shatner is a Republican, right? I don't follow everything he puts out there but I've read he likes Trump but perhaps not to the point that it makes him too problematic. Dwight Schultz who played Barclay in Next Gen and Voy is pretty far to the right and apparently has his own Alex Jones-esque radio show.
None of these examples suit the current methodology. These are both people who were involved with Star Trek decades ago now and have had no involvement at all in the current cultural movement that has overran the Intellectual Property completely.

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Just because Star Trek is supposed to promote progressive ideals doesn't mean that people working on the show are progressive or liberal.
I'm not saying that you are too far off in this one - Rodenberry was extremely liberal. But you are definitely looking at this one through your own, modernized lens. Liberalism back then was not what it is now.

When Star Trek was born, liberalism back then is what most normally and well balanced people are today in the center.

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Heck even though the franchise unashamedly wears it's politics on its sleeve it's suprinsing the amount of right leaning fans see it as a more Conservative leaning show.
Again, and you aren't going to like this because it's basically putting your perceptions on trial a bit, but it's only through your lens, and the lens of other people that don't actually understand the origins, the temporal motion, and current reality of where most rational people are nowadays on these spectrums. I'm sorry, but it's true. Your interpretation of this has gone through your own filter of understanding.

And so, it's not that I'm arguing that your Math is wrong based on your understanding. Instead, it's that I'm pointing out that your understanding is skewed and so it's created your math.

STD is a show for liberal extremism that has intentionally walked what was the traditional lover of Star Trek out the door so as to appear heroic to a new audience which it believes is out there. STD is an invasion of the foolishness that liberalism has become as it crusades against a mostly invented & contrived enemy.
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