Official Justice League Movie

~~Leo656~~ · 03-09-2021, 08:33 PM

So while the leak was apparently only online for about an hour, lots of people jumped around through the entire thing looking for clips and screengrabs to post online. Lots of them have been taken down but a lot are still available. I saw quite a few.

Most of the conversation is about as "mature" as you'd expect. The CGI is definitely a little rough, but for whatever reason I was expecting that? But that's all anyone is talking about, and BOY are they.

Between the footage they had in the can without any opportunity to do "proper" reshoots on it in the first place, along with the fact that the CGI is going to be "budget"-quality anyway and made worse by the whole "work from home" thing, I don't really think it's entirely fair to get hung up on that. I feel like people should remember that they basically had to add music and SFX to a workprint under less-than-optimal conditions and adjust expectations accordingly.

But yeah, there's gonna be a lot of fodder for the "It looks like a video game!" people to cry and quip about, sure. The Joker stuff was noticeably shot separately from everything else and thus looks a bit too spliced-in, but again, we could have expected that.

Meanwhile, a few people spoiled the ending scene, including both the "mind-blowing cameo" and the "massive cliffhanger", both of which are a bit over-hyped. Not worth the hype - I mean, it's predictable to most folks but I acknowledge that they have to build hype for the on-the-fence people or those who don't keep up with the production and Spoiler-y stuff - but also not worth the massive gnashing of teeth from people upset that it ends on said cliffhanger. I saw it without any sound, but between what I saw and others' comments, the gist of it is this:

Spoiler:

So that supposed "massive cliffhanger" that everyone has been so upset about is just a standard sequel hook, which is only annoying in that the sequel won't ever get made. Pretty much what I figured from the beginning, based on what we already knew.

I don't care about the rush job CGI and I long ago made peace with the fact that the sequel is never coming out, so none of this bothers me. I just want to see as close to "the real version" of the movie we were supposed to get originally, the one that the trailers back then promised but lied about. It's unfortunate that it will forever have a big asterisk next to it with regard to it still being kind of "not polished", but that couldn't be helped under the circumstances. If people can adjust their expectations and look at it like a modern-day equivalent of the Donner Cut of Superman II, that would be for the best - they won't, but that's the only fair thing to do.

Also like the Donner Cut, even with the lack of polish and "we did the best we could with what we had" nature of the project, I still feel like it will be superior to the theatrical version. Many will disagree, but it is what it is.

03-09-2021, 08:33 PM	#11
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	So while the leak was apparently only online for about an hour, lots of people jumped around through the entire thing looking for clips and screengrabs to post online. Lots of them have been taken down but a lot are still available. I saw quite a few. Most of the conversation is about as "mature" as you'd expect. The CGI is definitely a little rough, but for whatever reason I was expecting that? But that's all anyone is talking about, and BOY are they. Between the footage they had in the can without any opportunity to do "proper" reshoots on it in the first place, along with the fact that the CGI is going to be "budget"-quality anyway and made worse by the whole "work from home" thing, I don't really think it's entirely fair to get hung up on that. I feel like people should remember that they basically had to add music and SFX to a workprint under less-than-optimal conditions and adjust expectations accordingly. But yeah, there's gonna be a lot of fodder for the "It looks like a video game!" people to cry and quip about, sure. The Joker stuff was noticeably shot separately from everything else and thus looks a bit too spliced-in, but again, we could have expected that. Meanwhile, a few people spoiled the ending scene, including both the "mind-blowing cameo" and the "massive cliffhanger", both of which are a bit over-hyped. Not worth the hype - I mean, it's predictable to most folks but I acknowledge that they have to build hype for the on-the-fence people or those who don't keep up with the production and Spoiler-y stuff - but also not worth the massive gnashing of teeth from people upset that it ends on said cliffhanger. I saw it without any sound, but between what I saw and others' comments, the gist of it is this: Spoiler: After the League defeats Steppenwolf, at some point Bruce has another "Knightmare" dream. He's in the desert with Joker, Deathstroke, Mera, Flash (wearing his BvS armor) and Cyborg. Superman (under Darkseid's thrall, but wearing his regular blue and red costume, again a'la BvS) drops in and advances on them with glowing red eyes, at which point Bruce abruptly wakes up. He then sees Martian Manhunter standing outside, who basically tells him something like "It's not over, there's a war coming," or some variation of that, teasing the full-blown Darkseid invasion/Knightmare Future that was supposed to be the plot of JL2. So that supposed "massive cliffhanger" that everyone has been so upset about is just a standard sequel hook, which is only annoying in that the sequel won't ever get made. Pretty much what I figured from the beginning, based on what we already knew. I don't care about the rush job CGI and I long ago made peace with the fact that the sequel is never coming out, so none of this bothers me. I just want to see as close to "the real version" of the movie we were supposed to get originally, the one that the trailers back then promised but lied about. It's unfortunate that it will forever have a big asterisk next to it with regard to it still being kind of "not polished", but that couldn't be helped under the circumstances. If people can adjust their expectations and look at it like a modern-day equivalent of the Donner Cut of Superman II, that would be for the best - they won't, but that's the only fair thing to do. Also like the Donner Cut, even with the lack of polish and "we did the best we could with what we had" nature of the project, I still feel like it will be superior to the theatrical version. Many will disagree, but it is what it is.