Official Justice League Movie

~~Leo656~~ · 03-20-2021, 04:38 PM

I agree with pretty much all of that longer post. Maybe not to the same degree on This or That little thing here or there, but yeah, really spot-on.

- I do wish there had been a couple of lines of dialog about how maybe Superman wasn't able to harness solar energy as efficiently after being revived, and the fight with the League had exhausted his stored supply or something, and that the black suit was necessary to help him get back to full power more quickly. Like a lot of things Zack does, "we" know what it's rooted in and what it's supposed to mean but people who don't read comics wouldn't know, and to them it's confusing. I do see some people complaining that "Snyder just has Superman wearing black because it looks cool", and they genuinely don't know about the whole "regeneration suit" angle from the comics - and I do admit that "It just looks cool" was probably a factor as well - so it would have been nice to add a bit more context to it.

I'm also not so in love with the black suit that I would keep it past the story of this specific movie, and I would have switched back to the classic suit for the finale, the shirt-rip scene. That scene definitely would have hit harder if he was wearing the classic suit under his Clark outfit. BUT, supposedly Zack wanted to save him switching back to the blue suit for JL3 so it would be more "symbolic". It's a choice. It's not what I would have done and I don't think most people would support it, because we've seen how impatient and insistent people can be. "At least he's got that suit that's so over-saturated blue that it's practically glowing!" was one of the few things people liked about Whedon's cut, so I'm quite certain that people would have been annoyed to no end about having to wait until JL3 to see him in the real suit again, "symbolism" or no. But it's a choice. I respect it even if I don't agree with it.

- Regarding the dirt rising off of Superman's coffin at the end of BvS, I'd have to look it up but at one point way, way back Zack admitted in an interview that it was just something to clue the audience in at the end of BvS that Superman was going to come back in the next movie so they wouldn't assume otherwise. It wasn't specifically going to have anything to do with how he'd come back or be revived or whatever, it was just something to signal to the audience that he'd be back, and sooner than we might think. I admit that I was reading a lot into the dirt rising before the theatrical cut of JL came out, looking at it as a "clue", until I read where Zack said "It's not a clue, it's just visual shorthand, don't overthink it." Just to clarify.

03-20-2021, 04:38 PM	#11
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I agree with pretty much all of that longer post. Maybe not to the same degree on This or That little thing here or there, but yeah, really spot-on. - I do wish there had been a couple of lines of dialog about how maybe Superman wasn't able to harness solar energy as efficiently after being revived, and the fight with the League had exhausted his stored supply or something, and that the black suit was necessary to help him get back to full power more quickly. Like a lot of things Zack does, "we" know what it's rooted in and what it's supposed to mean but people who don't read comics wouldn't know, and to them it's confusing. I do see some people complaining that "Snyder just has Superman wearing black because it looks cool", and they genuinely don't know about the whole "regeneration suit" angle from the comics - and I do admit that "It just looks cool" was probably a factor as well - so it would have been nice to add a bit more context to it. I'm also not so in love with the black suit that I would keep it past the story of this specific movie, and I would have switched back to the classic suit for the finale, the shirt-rip scene. That scene definitely would have hit harder if he was wearing the classic suit under his Clark outfit. BUT, supposedly Zack wanted to save him switching back to the blue suit for JL3 so it would be more "symbolic". It's a choice. It's not what I would have done and I don't think most people would support it, because we've seen how impatient and insistent people can be. "At least he's got that suit that's so over-saturated blue that it's practically glowing!" was one of the few things people liked about Whedon's cut, so I'm quite certain that people would have been annoyed to no end about having to wait until JL3 to see him in the real suit again, "symbolism" or no. But it's a choice. I respect it even if I don't agree with it. - Regarding the dirt rising off of Superman's coffin at the end of BvS, I'd have to look it up but at one point way, way back Zack admitted in an interview that it was just something to clue the audience in at the end of BvS that Superman was going to come back in the next movie so they wouldn't assume otherwise. It wasn't specifically going to have anything to do with how he'd come back or be revived or whatever, it was just something to signal to the audience that he'd be back, and sooner than we might think. I admit that I was reading a lot into the dirt rising before the theatrical cut of JL came out, looking at it as a "clue", until I read where Zack said "It's not a clue, it's just visual shorthand, don't overthink it." Just to clarify.