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Originally Posted by Ryona
Oy... Back to your old habits, eh, Heretic? Remember what happened those months ago when you trolled around through threads? As I recall, people didn't like it and it nearly got you a warning.
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So far he seems to be keeping a cool head, and just presenting his facts.
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You're extremely biased. Just deal with it. I may give a bit of extra attention to Leo, but you my friend... when it comes to over-gratifying a favorite character, you take the cake.
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Um....I dunna....anyone says 2 cross word about leo and they get a textual reaming...
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Your Palladium stats may hold some weight, but so does just about any TMNT stats that have been legally distributed into any TMNT product.
Here's a screen cap of recent stats for the boys.

As you can see, it doesn't totally match the RPG stats yet it's just as valid if it's legally displayed in a TMNT game.
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I'll give you that, any TMNT profile would be considered valid...Maybe we should take a look at more than 2, compile a hard and fast "over all strengths and weaknesses" chart.
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And like I said, there are mathematical errors in the Palladium book. Certain stats don't add up with the skill bonuses and such, so, really, the info is not completely reliable.
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I'd like to see this....could you post these errors please?
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And yes, I feel you abuse your martial arts knowledge because you seem to use it only to highlight Mikey and cast the rest of the boys in his shadow.
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And you've often used certain things to show how Leo trumps all in more than just fighting skill...and have made it clear that those who don't agree are obviously ignorant. He's just stating his thoughts....
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I think Mikey is a great character. Really, I do. I infact even created a special thread for him in the art forum (in here) because I honestly do feel he's the most under-rated of the four.
But when you post such ridiculously biased posts of Mikey like you seem to always do, it really doesn't do him much justice as you may think. All it does is just over-glorify him, and people can see right through that.
I'm all for supporting Mikey, but if you continue to keep raising Mikey on this fanciful pedestal you've created for him, I will not hesitate to knock him off the highhorse you've carefuly put him on.
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The kid won the Battle Nexus Turnament, he's show he can handle a fight with a legitimate defeate of Kluh, as you said Mikey is underrated (as for most underrated I'd go with Donnie...hey there's a new thread idea...

) Mikey might be better than Leo as an improvizational fighter, but in a strategy...Leo trumps Mike. I think we've neglected to take on certain styles of fighting...like who's the best tatitisian? Who's the most powerful? If we have then...whoops....but that could be something to keep the thread alive aside from 2nd best...
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With that said, I feel we should continue with our discussion on who's the second best fighter since Anarky was helpful enough to give us the official heads up that Leo is indeed the best. End of story with that. If there is anymore arguments on who ranks as the number one fighter, I will see to it that this thread gets locked.
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That seems a bit harsh...and like a psudo-abuse of the powers give you...He may be biased....but having a favorite turtle causes us all to be biased....
As for second best....I dunna....I think aside from maybe Leo, they are all equally matched, depending once again on the environment....