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Old 01-30-2014, 09:20 PM   #281
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I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell.

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Still crap, but slightly better.


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I think John had a big part in it too, his movies tend to be going for the "edgy" image. At least that's the vibe I got.
Oh. GODDAMN YOU, JOHN!
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:20 PM   #282
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Aw, hell, no! NO. JUST... STOP. Thanks for ruining the public TMNT image, Michael Gay. Nonono, I don't even care! I don't even care if this movie is good or bad (which it probably WILL be...), I am NOT paying to watch this bull****! UGH! *bangs head against wall*

Yeah, that's how frustrated I am right now. I normally don't get in all a tizzy over designs, (change is actually welcome in my eyes), but this is freaking ridiculous! Again, thanks a lot, Michael. You little piece of ****.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:26 PM   #283
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Are you stupid? Anyone can have blue eyes. Even turtles.

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Real talk, I figured that was faked for Almost Human.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:33 PM   #284
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Still crap, but slightly better.
I know. It's hard to polish a turd.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:33 PM   #285
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I can't believe I just saw someone - with absolutely no irony - accuse Jester of being disagreeable, and someone else, also irony-free, ask Andrew if he's ever read Mirage. Madness.

Poster: Ugh. The lips and nostrils are the least of it. To me, those are barely noticeable. The way the Turtles are composed, they look fat. I'm sure it's not the official movie promo poster, but still... c'mon guys. The layout and composition is strictly amateur hour.

The more I see of the designs, the more I don't like them. Leo and Don are awwwwful, all that extra armor/gear, Donnie looks wretched. "Get It? He's a NERD!" Oh, we got it... just like we "get" Leo's the "traditional Asian-style warrior" and Raph's the Bruiser and Mikey's the pop-culture fanboy/hipster... because even if we didn't already know their personalities, those designs kind of stuff it down your throat. So very not a fan. But whatever.

As for anything else... guys... please, before you surmise things or give people/things more credit/blame than is warranted... study... how movies... are made. Seriously. So much debate about whether the director or producer deserves blame for this or that, or all these "logical" explanations for the Turtles designs and their hideous outfits. It's really not that complicated. You don't have to Guess at things when you KNOW why they are.

1. Movies like this, the producer holds more pull and makes all the big decisions. Producers hire directors; directors are employees, hired specifically to make the movie the producer and the studio want to make. They make no decisions and have little-to-no authority of their own. TMNT is no more Liebsman's movie than Superman III was Richard Lester's. Lester made the movie that the Salkinds told him to make. Liebsman is simply Bay's hired gun.

2. Do not - do not - even pretend for one second that these designs were given any deeper thought than, "That will look cool for the action figures." Nobody actually making the movie gave it that kind of over-thinking. Movies based primarily on a toy license, the studio entirely determines the look of the characters based on shelf appeal. They want the toys to look completely different from the Nick show toys, and that's it. Absolutely nothing else. There is no "Well, logically, they need shades because of adapting to sunlight..." or, "Donnie tapes his glasses because his head is so wide..." No, Donnie has those glasses because "He's A Nerd!" Same reason he has Ghostbusters goggles and a proton pack. They do toy concepts first and work backwards from there. Seriously, do some research; it's how movies are made, it's not just my feeling/opinion. These are Simple Facts.

And I hate being pandered to by toy companies. Thus, I hate these stupid, cluttered, unnecessary designs. I get that some people are really optimistic about the movie, and that's great, and it makes sense they'd look for anything and everything to put a positive spin on. But people trying to justify the look with "Well, it makes sense because..." are really, seriously over-thinking it. They even LOOK like toy design concept art. Just a cluttered mess.

Like it or don't, opinions are free. But judge things as they are, not what we would like them to be, is all I ask. In this case, judge the look based on the fact it's simply what some middle-aged executive thinks is "Hip" and "In-Yo'-Face!" Don't over-sell it with "Well, realistically or logically..." because that's got nothing to do with why they did it. Zero.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:35 PM   #286
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I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell. Removing the nose holes and changing the lips can work wonders.

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Now thats a shiny turd!!!

Seriously though it looks a lot better without the nostrils.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:52 PM   #287
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I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell. Removing the nose holes and changing the lips can work wonders.

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Yeah... it looks better that way.

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Old 01-30-2014, 10:15 PM   #288
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Ninja Turtles is now the number one trending term on yahoo! Its getting quite the buzz it seems.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:19 PM   #289
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Ninja Turtles is now the number one trending term on yahoo! Its getting quite the buzz it seems.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:23 PM   #290
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Depends. It could be like The Lone Ranger, with everyone agreeing six months in advance it looked bad and then avoiding the movie like the Plague once it came out.

Like it or not, sometimes these things become a self-fulfilling prediction. If enough people decide early on, "That looks crummy, I bet it tanks", it will tank no matter what. Some people like Lone Ranger. Some people like Green Lantern (me, and I'm sure at least someone else, somewhere). In both cases, the whole world decided early on they didn't care, and we see where that "publicity" got them in the end.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:26 PM   #291
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At least kids like TMNT. They have that going for them.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:28 PM   #292
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Not when some cry at the movie designs.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:46 PM   #293
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Depends. It could be like The Lone Ranger, with everyone agreeing six months in advance it looked bad and then avoiding the movie like the Plague once it came out.

Like it or not, sometimes these things become a self-fulfilling prediction. If enough people decide early on, "That looks crummy, I bet it tanks", it will tank no matter what. Some people like Lone Ranger. Some people like Green Lantern (me, and I'm sure at least someone else, somewhere). In both cases, the whole world decided early on they didn't care, and we see where that "publicity" got them in the end.
But basing a persons opinions of something the general public wasn't even supposed to see there's a reason were not supposed to see stuff like that they haven't finished the art side of the marketing once market finish and they show what they originally had planed to show thing will be different almost 100% sure about that
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:52 PM   #294
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It has nothing to do with the poster itself. It's that everything we've seen so far from every angle gives anyone enough clues to decide if things are going to be up their alley or not. And some of it looks awful.

"Deductive Reasoning" is a thing. I highly doubt that the Turtles are going to look drastically different from the poster or the sculptures, this late in the game. That's the look we're getting. That poster is a crammed, poorly-designed mess, but that's not the problem at all. It doesn't matter what context it exists in. It displays a product that looks like it's not going to be very good. The Turtles themselves are over-designed and gimmicky.

Whether we were meant to see it or not, it shows us 99% what the final designs are going to look like, and now we can decide if it's eye-pleasing or not. I, personally, say Not.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:52 PM   #295
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I do like that Leo and Don have some armor, that makes complete sense... but they over did it. Why would a turtle wear bamboo armor over his ****ing shell? And Donnie looks more "grandma" than "nerd" to me. Yuck.

Mike looks ok, the tattoo is what was too much for me. Hopefully he's not really wearing pants. That just doesn't make any sense, even if they are spandex. Hopefully none of the guys are wearing much of this extra ish throughout the bulk of the movie.

And Raph just looks evil.
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Looks like til be called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles after all. And we get official pics soon!

"The Hasbro promo art was on display in at the Nurnburg Toy Fair in Germany. It's a similar display to the one that will be at the Int. Toy Fair in NYC next week. Full reveal of the toy line (digital images) will be next week, probably on Thursday.

The movie is being called Ninja Turtles in most of Europe and Asia. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the US, UK and other English markets.

I saw the Splinter figure. He's freaking scary. Looks like a sewer rat. IRL should be significantly smaller than the Turtles. He's got the Fu Manchu facial hair but it's more subdued that the animated movie."

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Old 01-30-2014, 11:04 PM   #298
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What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..."

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:22 PM   #299
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Only part of the poster I'm liking is Leonardo. Not sure if someone pointed it out, but it looks like Donnie is gonna be using a metal bo-staff.
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Looks like til be called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles after all. And we get official pics soon!

"The Hasbro promo art was on display in at the Nurnburg Toy Fair in Germany. It's a similar display to the one that will be at the Int. Toy Fair in NYC next week. Full reveal of the toy line (digital images) will be next week, probably on Thursday.

The movie is being called Ninja Turtles in most of Europe and Asia. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the US, UK and other English markets.

I saw the Splinter figure. He's freaking scary. Looks like a sewer rat. IRL should be significantly smaller than the Turtles. He's got the Fu Manchu facial hair but it's more subdued that the animated movie."

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...=472767&page=5
As nervous as I am about the Turtles and as much as I'm dreading seeing Bay's Shredder, I'm most nervous about Splinter.

Because THIS guy is playing him:



Yeah the guy who hung out with Kramer on Seinfeld is playing either Japanese man/ninja master turned anthropomorphic rat Hamato Yoshi OR pet Japanese rat of Japanese ninja master Hamato Yoshi(I myself prefer the latter. The mutated pet rat of murdered Hamato Yoshi).

So...balls.
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