If you could only change one aspect of the Nick series, what would it be?

[BabyTurtles]

This is so hard....

I was stuck between changing April's story/changing up some of the characters/and shipping

...but shipping won XD....I would love the shipping to be totally gone from this show~

[Shark_Blade]

I didn't even see a poll when this thread started, it's literally not there!

*reads options*

[Leofan26]

Hmm, so many good choices to pick from, my main beef with the series is all this romance stories they keep adding

I'd like to add in skipping around with major arcs going on, one moment we are dealing with personal issues like Karai's secret than oohs filler sorry, couple of episodes later " By the way, she's our sister folks! " No reactions either, you would have thought of all plot twists that'd have affected them emotionally the most, nothing

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I didn't even see a poll when this thread started, it's literally not there!

*reads options*

I was taking my time reading over and thinking of the options when it came poll choices, and to my surprise, it already posted the thread before I finished creating the poll! Whoops...

Sorry about that...

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Hmm, so many good choices to pick from, my main beef with the series is all this romance stories they keep adding

I'd like to add in skipping around with major arcs going on, one moment we are dealing with personal issues like Karai's secret than oohs filler sorry, couple of episodes later " By the way, she's our sister folks! " No reactions either, you would have thought of all plot twists that'd have affected them emotionally the most, nothing

That would fit into the "Plot/Arc Amnesia" option too, where these storywriting details are not actively addressed in subsequent episodes.

[IndigoErth]

As of this moment after the most recent episode... The show wants you to want one of the guys, just pick a damn boyfriend already. I. Don't. Even. Care. if you want to be young and experimental and try being with a talking turtle person.. either just choose, or I bludgeon you to death with a foam Nerf bat. And that will take a while. It will soon be to the point that an awkward human/turtle-person pairing will be less painful than an continuing triangle. (Or is that what the show has been waiting for, to be tired of it long enough that people give up and are fine with it.)

[Luckyday]

I didn't vote for this, but Plot/Arc Amnesia is something IMO that can cause problems for the long term.

[Coola Yagami]

Glad to see my term plot amnesia caught on. Here's hoping it gets its own page at TVTropes. lol although this is the only show I ever seen that did something like this.

But yeah that's the thing I would change. The plot amnesia.

And btw... this show has no shipping. The show actually does have a Don/April/Casey love triangle. It wasn't made up by the fans. Shipping is stuff like fans making up stuff not in the show, like Raph/Karai and Mikey/April.

[ssjup81]

Okay, I finally have a serious answer that goes under "other". So far, I would change how season 3 started. I would've preferred it if we would've seen the other five adjusting to this life they have for a while with Leo still being out instead of starting after his coma. At least a couple of episodes.

At this point, everyone seems too well-adjusted. Why did Raph decide to be vigilant to watch over Leo (aside from its being in the comic)? How did Donnie cope or act since he blamed himself for Leo's condition? Is Casey's goofiness a front over worrying over his father and sister? How did April cope since bringing Irma to the lair jump-started everything? How did Mikey cope? Did he act the way he did at the end of the finale? With Raph trying to console and comfort him? Was he like this for a while before trying to be optimistic about everything again and quoting Splinter?

This was something I was hoping to see after the season finale. After the heavy, then the lightheartedness of like A Foot too Big (still thought that episode was hilarious).

I guess more emotional moments after a tragic situation or a heavy situation.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Okay, I finally have a serious answer that goes under "other". So far, I would change how season 3 started. I would've preferred it if we would've seen the other five adjusting to this life they have for a while with Leo still being out instead of starting after his coma. At least a couple of episodes.

At this point, everyone seems too well-adjusted. Why did Raph decide to be vigilant to watch over Leo (aside from its being in the comic)? How did Donnie cope or act since he blamed himself for Leo's condition? Is Casey's goofiness a front over worrying over his father and sister? How did April cope since bringing Irma to the lair jump-started everything? How did Mikey cope? Did he act the way he did at the end of the finale? With Raph trying to console and comfort him? Was he like this for a while before trying to be optimistic about everything again and quoting Splinter?

This was something I was hoping to see after the season finale. After the heavy, then the lightheartedness of like A Foot too Big (still thought that episode was hilarious).

I guess more emotional moments after a tragic situation or a heavy situation.

yes yes yes.... I was so hoping for this....missed opportunity...

[Warhorse]

I chose the depiction of characters, lack of some, too much of others. There just isn't enough Raph for me. Too many times has he been sidelined for some reason or another, and too much focus on the other Turtles. Like I said, I feel April gets better story arcs, and has had more screen time in the second half of season 2 and already in the first two episodes of season 3. Enough already, it's supposed to be about the 4 brothers. Not just two of them, April, Casey, and then when they feel they are needed, then go ahead and give Mikey and Raph some character development, but then go back to concentrating on the new team, Don, Leo, April and Casey. Because that's what I feel it is.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Okay, I finally have a serious answer that goes under "other". So far, I would change how season 3 started. I would've preferred it if we would've seen the other five adjusting to this life they have for a while with Leo still being out instead of starting after his coma. At least a couple of episodes.

At this point, everyone seems too well-adjusted. Why did Raph decide to be vigilant to watch over Leo (aside from its being in the comic)? How did Donnie cope or act since he blamed himself for Leo's condition? Is Casey's goofiness a front over worrying over his father and sister? How did April cope since bringing Irma to the lair jump-started everything? How did Mikey cope? Did he act the way he did at the end of the finale? With Raph trying to console and comfort him? Was he like this for a while before trying to be optimistic about everything again and quoting Splinter?

This was something I was hoping to see after the season finale. After the heavy, then the lightheartedness of like A Foot too Big (still thought that episode was hilarious).

I guess more emotional moments after a tragic situation or a heavy situation.

For me, I would classify that under the "Plot/Arc Amnesia" option, because those details of the characters/story are not addressed in the show.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

And btw... this show has no shipping. The show actually does have a Don/April/Casey love triangle. It wasn't made up by the fans. Shipping is stuff like fans making up stuff not in the show, like Raph/Karai and Mikey/April.

Technically, that is correct that the show doesn't have "shipping" since there are no official couples yet in the show, but the fact the show is so strongly leaning toward April/Donatello, April/Casey, and Leo/Karai made me choose the broad term. **shrug** Nevertheless though for this particular case, I think most of the users understand how that term is being applied in the poll option.

As for your "plot amnesia" term, thanks Coola Yagami! It was the best term ("amnesia") to articulate what was occurring with those plotlines!

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Technically, that is correct that the show doesn't have "shipping" since there are no official couples yet in the show, but the fact the show is so strongly leaning toward April/Donatello, April/Casey, and Leo/Karai made me choose the broad term.

That's what I mean. The show DOES have the April/Don, Casey/April and Leo/Karai thing going on. It's not a made-up thing the fans made up.

Shipping is stuff NOT in the show that fans made up. Like whoa, Raph called Karai hot so there must be a Raph/Karai thing. Or hey, April said more than two words to Leo, so there must be a Leo/April thing going on. Slash/Karai, Tiger Claw/Karai, Raph/random blonde woman we see running around the city sometimes, April/pizza boy. etc

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

That's what I mean. The show DOES have the April/Don, Casey/April and Leo/Karai thing going on. It's not a made-up thing the fans made up.

Shipping is stuff NOT in the show that fans made up. Like whoa, Raph called Karai hot so there must be a Raph/Karai thing. Or hey, April said more than two words to Leo, so there must be a Leo/April thing going on. Slash/Karai, Tiger Claw/Karai, Raph/random blonde woman we see running around the city sometimes, April/pizza boy. etc

And we mustn't forget about Casey x Donnie. That whole Ho Chan ep was just a front. That hug they were going for was supposed to be for each other, but it would be strange for them to hug one another so they had to get April in the middle.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

That's what I mean. The show DOES have the April/Don, Casey/April and Leo/Karai thing going on. It's not a made-up thing the fans made up.

Shipping is stuff NOT in the show that fans made up. Like whoa, Raph called Karai hot so there must be a Raph/Karai thing. Or hey, April said more than two words to Leo, so there must be a Leo/April thing going on. Slash/Karai, Tiger Claw/Karai, Raph/random blonde woman we see running around the city sometimes, April/pizza boy. etc

Okay... I get it. I guess I need to brush up on my fan terminology.

Maybe I should have said, "The Crushes and Love Triangle(s)" then...? I thought "romance" was too strong of a term to use there since it implies a strong and intense affair between two people, and not one-sided like a crush.

[Metalwolf]

I voted Other.

I would give Shredder's goons have a bit more background and character. We barely know anything about them beyond an extremely brief bio, and we don't see them enough for them anymore to develop character. They seemed to have a lot of it when in Season 1 when they were interacting with the Turtles regularly, but this seems to largely stagnate and degrade once they got into Season 2.

a. Xever had a bit of personality. He wasn't a nice guy but was willing to put the rivalry on hold until they got out of Baxter's maze. He didn't like being a fish mutant, and longed to be human again so he could have his old life back. In Season 2 post-Wormquake, he's become a shallow version of his old self, only showing a very generic tough guy persona while being an unquestioning lackey of the Shredder. He also barely gets any lines anymore ( if he's even shown) where pre-Wormquake, he had a lot more.


b.Bradford had a bit of personality too. He was a rich snob, probably was used to having things practically served to him on a silver platter, which didn't help much towards making him a nice guy. Once mutated he didn't really care for his mutant form, and pretty much blamed it for his repeated failings. Like Xever he wanted to be returned to normal but for different reasons i.e his mutant form was sucky for ninja stuff. Once he became Rahzar it looked like he would become a stronger and meaner version of his old self, somebody who could be reckoned with. Instead during and after Wormquake, he devolved into a largely nerfed, generic 'beast' character that shows little character other then being unflinchingly loyal to Shredder. Aside from one episode post-Wormquake (Baxter's Lonely Mutation) he's shone little of his own personality anymore.

c. Tigerclaw, while being a recent addition, hasn't seemed to degrade to the degree of the first two. It might be that he hasn't been replaced (yet), but it could be that he has a way of being seemingly more versatile then the other two. He also even showed his concern to Shredder over Shredder's desire to align with the Kraang, which shows he isn't some guy who just blindly follows orders without question. However, we still don't know much about this guy, and him not attempting a coup on Shredder over the essentially suicidal pact still makes me think he needs a bit more given to him other then another mere follower. The Kraang aren't going to honor an agreement by someone they view as a mere insect, so heck, why is he even staying?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

I didn't vote for this, but Plot/Arc Amnesia is something IMO that can cause problems for the long term.

yea thinking about it...maybe I should have picked that...plot Amnesia is so annoying....and lots of things would have been solved if they just remember what happened last episode XD