Dave Green in talks to direct TMNT 2

[IndigoErth]

Yes, I was talking about the part of the budget that went toward the design and creation of the models in the first place. Those already exist so that's part of the next budget that can be spared for other things. Unless of course they go adding too many more to the next. Which goodness knows in an effort to try to be over the top they may.

[LeoRaph]

Yes, I was talking about the part of the budget that went toward the design and creation of the models in the first place. Those already exist so that's part of the next budget that can be spared for other things. Unless of course they go adding too many more to the next. Which goodness knows in an effort to try to be over the top they may.

YEAH...GOTTA BE BIGGER AND BETTER AND BIGGER THAN BEFORE, MORE IS MORE. (Sorry for the all caps, my inner bay got the better of me )

So pretty safe to say Shredder will be back with a 'New' cgi design...you would think a downgraded non cgi practical suit would be the way to go...but yeah...

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by LeoRaph

So pretty safe to say Shredder will be back with a 'New' cgi design...you would think a downgraded non cgi practical suit would be the way to go...but yeah...

It would've made more sense to have a more basic suit and then upgrade to something bigger and badder for the sequel. Now, we'll have a suit that was already bigger and badder bumped up a few notches to make it even more over the top.

[IndigoErth]

They do enough of these movies, at what point do the Turtles just start laughing at his excessiveness and beat him on the effects of humiliation alone. I have visions of this giant lump of metal covered in blades hobbling around.

[Candy Kappa]

I'm kinda curious what Shredder's suit looked like before Sacks got his hands on it.

[sgtfbomb]

Originally Posted by LeoRaph

So pretty safe to say Shredder will be back with a 'New' cgi design...you would think a downgraded non cgi practical suit would be the way to go...but yeah...

I was kinda hoping that with Sachs out of the picture and, presumably, the suit damaged in some way, that he would go with a less mechanical approach and show us his true skills as a warrior and really demonstrate why this incarnation truly deserves to be the Turtles' nemesis. Afterall, if this variation of Saki requires a giant metal suit to be a badass, then he is not a badass. (He was barely even a character in the film.) It's possible for him to not have a CG suit and still look badass without looking campy.

As is, the character really didn't command his presence. The Shredder is an iconic villain and should be dominating the film, even when he's not on the screen. We as an audience should be wondering, maybe even worrying about where, when, and what his next strike will be, and he needs to meet that expectation ten-fold, making the heroes' lives a living hell. Because that's the kinda role a good villain has in a film. But unfortunately my expectations on the sequel are really low, as he'll probably just be lumbering around and not doing much else.

[turtlefanforever]

if we are getting any Green doing this film it should be Seth

[Bry]

I know the horse is long dead on this one... but I still find it hilarious that The Shredder, who is literally a ninja with some bladed armour, had to be a full (or nearly-full) CGI creation.

Were the pre-production meetings just Michael Bay screaming "BIGGER! BIGGER! TO THE EXTREME!" or what?

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

if we are getting any Green doing this film it should be Seth

Giving BayTurtles the Robot Chicken treatment might be the only way to make it worth watching.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The 1st film had 6 CGI characters, The Shredder was also Motion Capture as well,

and in a way this is one of the problems with the first TMNT movie...not to get off topic..but despite what some may think i never had an issue with mo cap turtles...sure i am more of a practical effects guy but Mo cap wouldve been an awesome addition to a good turtles movie


But shredder isnt a cartoon,he isnt a robot or monster, or some weird non earth like creature. so he never needed to be or should have been cgi in the first place.

its a lazy and expensive take on an other wise simple well known established character design, all because its the "cool thing to do now"

shredder suit have just been what he always is..a guy in armor

if Hollywood can build realistic actual military grade batman suit for 3 films why is it so hard to make Shredder armor?

its the Green Lantern Effect , and it sorta makes me Worry about the upcoming Power Rangers movie

even Casey jones worry's me that he will have some sort of crazy cgi hockey suit

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

But shredder isnt a cartoon,he isnt a robot or monster, or some weird non earth like creature. so he never needed to be or should have been cgi in the first place.

Yeah, I agree. Even if they wanted to try to make his armor "super cool," they could/should have just gone with what was humanly possible to make, and done via human hands via talented costume designers.



If this Dave Green guy really is taking the reigns, I wish we'd get an interview of him about it at some point in coming months.

[bushido]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

if we are getting any Green doing this film it should be Seth

[pennydreadful]

You just won the entire thread, bushido.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by bushido

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[killerkobra]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

As long as it's not Johnathan Liebesman.

Yep first thing that popped into my head... I have a slice of hope now for the sequal

[bushido]

Originally Posted by killerkobra

Yep first thing that popped into my head... I have a slice of hope now for the sequal

he or another, his flexibility will be limited anyway. On this kind of production it is the producers who keep the overall direction.

[Tora]

I'd like to see Shredder in a non CGI suit and taking the back seat in the next one and just coaching on his foot from the sidelines. Let Bebop and Rocksteady be the foes the Turtles take on for a good chunk of the film and maybe pull a page that was left out of SOTO and have Krang in the lab with Baxter.

End it with B&R an Krang in his Android-Body in an all out brawl vs. Casey, Splinter and the Turtles.

[IndigoErth]

Wait... Eric Sachs is undoubtedly going to be back I assume? Seemed like he just kind of disappeared from the first film and got off scot-free while the Turtles fought Shredder. Or am I forgetting something. Maybe he'll be the one off working to mutate Bebop and Rocksteady?

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Wait... Eric Sachs is undoubtedly going to be back I assume? Seemed like he just kind of disappeared from the first film and got off scot-free while the Turtles fought Shredder. Or am I forgetting something. Maybe he'll be the one off working to mutate Bebop and Rocksteady?

He was knocked out and then...that's it.

I assume he was arrested. Movie didn't bother to tell me, from what I remember.

[B-Man]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

He was knocked out and then...that's it.

I assume he was arrested. Movie didn't bother to tell me, from what I remember.

Yeah they left his & Karai's fate open-ended, either to make more options for the sequel... or it was just lazy writing.
With a new director, do you think the Turtles will have a different look? They'll obviously have different costumes, but this new guy may well change the aesthetic of the Turtles themselves. It's happened in sequels before where continuity was disregarded. If it were me, I'd make little alterations to have them looking more like the Henson version.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by B-Man

Yeah they left his & Karai's fate open-ended, either to make more options for the sequel... or it was just lazy writing.

Lazy writing. A few moments before that he said he shot April's father. Which, no, because he died in the fire and I'm pretty sure Sachs was nowhere around.

Lazy, bad writing.

With a new director, do you think the Turtles will have a different look? They'll obviously have different costumes, but this new guy may well change the aesthetic of the Turtles themselves. It's happened in sequels before where continuity was disregarded. If it were me, I'd make little alterations to have them looking more like the Henson version.

I doubt much will be changed regarding how the Turtles/Splinter will look.

Voice actors might not return, and they MIGHT not have a few of their previous accessories, but hiring a guy with one low budget found footage kids movie to his name proves to me they want costs kept at a minimum. Creating and rendering brand new models would be far more expensive than just re-using what they already have.

Plus, merch branding. Helps to keep costs down if the image already established is used again.