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Old 06-10-2015, 10:34 PM   #1
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A lot of people I know were upset at the whole "sterilization" aside, but that scene didn't play out that way for me. I mean, one of the first things we hear from Banner in the first movie is, "I don't always get what I want," he says while rocking a cradle back and forth.

For me it makes sense for Widow to point that out in that heart-to-heart moment with Bruce. They're very similar, in many regards.

Always wondering which face is the real one, Natasha/Bruce or Widow/Hulk. Both of them have a violent past they can't escape. Banner literally, and Widow because in Cap 2 she's gone and posted every single horrible thing about herself she's ever done out for the world to read.

Everyone else in the group can easily fade back into regular life if they want to, but not Banner and Romanov. They're forever stuck with what they've got.

No, the plot line in that movie that bothered me the most was that there was no real connection between Ironman 2 and this movie.

Ironman 2 really resonated with me, and I just can't see Tony Stark, the PTSD survivor who at the end of that movie blew up all of his extra iron man suits, not only making MORE, but Betty, and then dreaming up Ultron.

I feel like there are scenes out there that would bridge this gap that ended up on the cutting room floor, and I'm hoping that the Director's Cut of the film bridges the gap.

And Leo?
There are plenty of Female Avengers, we just haven't gotten them yet because Hollywood believes the male ego is so fragile that dudes won't see an action movie with a lot of chicks in it.

Me personally, I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel.
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:47 PM   #2
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There is only ONE Captain Marvel and that is the Big Red Cheese. I don't count "Captain Copyright Loophole".

"SHAZAM!", cupcake.
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You mean the one actually named Shazam?
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HE WAS CAPTAIN MARVEL LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE THE OTHER ONE WAS! DON'T PRETEND LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
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But now he's Shazam.
Because apparently too many people called him that anyway.

Poor dear.
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Shazam was the f***ing WIZARD who GAVE him his powers and it does not take the wisdom of Solomon to read the words on the page which spell this out in crystal clear detail in every single issue of his comic book! Like, the first page, usually!

If people by chance are illiterate jackals, they should not be dictating the currents of popular fiction. His name is Captain Marvel. Because it was Captain Marvel for 80 years, and he's been "Shazam" for five minutes.

SO HUH.
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Shh. Shhh. It's okay. I know it hurts when the world moves on without you.
You're not the only one whose dreams and memories DC has squashed.

It will be okay.
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A lot of people I know were upset at the whole "sterilization" aside, but that scene didn't play out that way for me. I mean, one of the first things we hear from Banner in the first movie is, "I don't always get what I want," he says while rocking a cradle back and forth.

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Always wondering which face is the real one, Natasha/Bruce or Widow/Hulk. Both of them have a violent past they can't escape. Banner literally, and Widow because in Cap 2 she's gone and posted every single horrible thing about herself she's ever done out for the world to read.

Everyone else in the group can easily fade back into regular life if they want to, but not Banner and Romanov. They're forever stuck with what they've got.

No, the plot line in that movie that bothered me the most was that there was no real connection between Ironman 2 and this movie.

Ironman 2 really resonated with me, and I just can't see Tony Stark, the PTSD survivor who at the end of that movie blew up all of his extra iron man suits, not only making MORE, but Betty, and then dreaming up Ultron.

I feel like there are scenes out there that would bridge this gap that ended up on the cutting room floor, and I'm hoping that the Director's Cut of the film bridges the gap.

And Leo?
There are plenty of Female Avengers, we just haven't gotten them yet because Hollywood believes the male ego is so fragile that dudes won't see an action movie with a lot of chicks in it.

Me personally, I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel.
I felt the same way about the empty cradle.

As far as being completely disconnected from Iron Man 3, I liked that but only because I really REALLY did not like Iron Man 3. It was nice that AoU touched on a lot of the same thematic points (PTSD, trying to protect people) as IM3. Just without Extremis, Trevor, and that awful Killian. I did like Iron Patriot though...
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