E3 2015

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I love Star Fox 64.

I don't care for all that silly transformation stuff, I just want to be able to play more Star Fox 64 levels.

So do I dude. Star Fox 64 was indeed awesome. But that doesn't mean I want a poorman's version of it.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I always enjoyed the Star fox games, It isn't about the graphics.

I heard this game is a reimagining of Star Fox 64.

****** Gyro controls? Is that what Star Fox is about?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The gyro controls and gamepad I am NOT excited about.

It's ridiculous that I should have to look down from my TV to an iPad thing to play the game properly.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

The gyro controls and gamepad I am NOT excited about.

It's ridiculous that I should have to look down from my TV to an iPad thing to play the game properly.

I was watching a live Gameplay demostration showing one of the new vehicles, and it seems you can change the modes while in game. You can do Cockpit view on the TV with the 3rd person on the Gamepad screen or vice versa.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Prowler

So do I dude. Star Fox 64 was indeed awesome. But that doesn't mean I want a poorman's version of it.

How the F*ck is this the poor mans version? This is what all the fans have been whining they wanted, It looks to be everything a Lylat wars follow on should be.

I have loved all the Star Fox games, and it never bothered me when they tried something new. But all the critics of the series out there wanted lylat wars 2 and Nintendo are pretty much giving it to you.

So sick of all these people that like to hate on everything, "because it's cool" to do so.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

The controls look bad. The transform stuff looks lame and even visually it looks like a cheap cash in title.

How can the controls look bad when you haven't even tried them? You cannot get a grasp of how a game, especially one like this, will control, until you're controlling it.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I heard this game is a reimagining of Star Fox 64.

I don't know where you heard that since they straight up said in the confrence that it's NOT, it's its own thing.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

How can the controls look bad when you haven't even tried them? You cannot get a grasp of how a game, especially one like this, will control, until you're controlling it.

Gyro controls combined with having to hold up the controller and look at it to aim.

Sounds great. Who can forget the long history of awesome gyro controlled games?

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

How the F*ck is this the poor mans version? This is what all the fans have been whining they wanted, It looks to be everything a Lylat wars follow on should be.

I have loved all the Star Fox games, and it never bothered me when they tried something new. But all the critics of the series out there wanted lylat wars 2 and Nintendo are pretty much giving it to you.

So sick of all these people that like to hate on everything, "because it's cool" to do so.

It looks like the poorman's version because it seriously looks like something they handed off to a B team. It looks cheap.

[Netkeeper]

You're making an assumption. I'm going to bet there will be the option to use a pro controller instead.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

How the F*ck is this the poor mans version? This is what all the fans have been whining they wanted, It looks to be everything a Lylat wars follow on should be.

I have loved all the Star Fox games, and it never bothered me when they tried something new. But all the critics of the series out there wanted lylat wars 2 and Nintendo are pretty much giving it to you.

So sick of all these people that like to hate on everything, "because it's cool" to do so.

I never said I wanted Lylat Wars v2.0. Don't assume ****, kid. I'm not part of a hivemind.

And I definitely don't hate on everything either.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

You're making an assumption. I'm going to bet there will be the option to use a pro controller instead.

They built this whole cockpit system and its nintendo. Splatoon still uses the gamepad exclusively in the main game even when the pro controller would work a million times better.

Alright pretend. Then there's the lame transformation junk and that it looks like a movie tie in game.

[Cure]

I just think Nintendo is really on the outs with the Wii U. They must be banking on the NX real hard.

[Ninjinister]

I thought the Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi crossover was pretty neat. DK and Bowser in the next Skylanders should sell some units (like that series has any trouble selling anyway) and I might be interested in picking up the figures but I have no interest in the game.

[sdp]

Nintendo's conference was full of great stuff, it just didn't have anything that had a "wow" factor to win the internet hype machine. Sony had a ton of those but most of those are not exclusive and also coming out on PC. I was cautiously excited about Nintendo because last year they blew their load with 201 and 2015 stuff and if they weren't going to show any 2016 stuff then it was obvious there wasn't going to be a lot new to show. Sony will probably be in a similar situation next year since most of their titles were 2016. What had me thinking maybe Nintendo had some secret bombs for E3 was that they revealed plenty of stuff in the last direct, had that "mini" a week before E3 and even the Smash DLC stuff the day before E3 so I thought maybe they had plenty of stuff to show but now it's obvious they just wanted some attention on Nintendo before E3 since they weren't going to get a lot and it worked but also set expectations especially high. I mean if they had saved those announcements for E3 it would've have felt so disappointing but also maybe people wouldn't have discussed them as much.

Star Fox to me looks great, it looks like Star Fox. What else did you guys really expect? Maybe if they hadn't announced Star Fox last year which we didn't even see anything of it people would've been more excited about the reveal. Titles like Yarn Yoshi and Xenoblade CX still look great but yeah we've seen them so many times now it's not exciting. Mario Maker keeps looking better and better every time they show it but yeah it was highlighted a lot since it's revealed so it's hard to bill it as their big Holiday title. Don't care about Skylanders. Mario Tennis with the super mushrooms actually doesn't look very fun to play as. Mario and Luigi RPG series crossing over with the other RPG Paper Mario is a neat idea. The four swords spiritual sequel looks cool but hard to get excited for a fourth Zelda title on 3DS and I feel like it doesn't deserve the "The Legend of Zelda" title since it seems like a spin-off. I didn't get what the Animal Crossing spin-offs really are, the 3DS one seems really boring if its only designing houses and the Wii one is a board game? I'll read more on it to see if I like it..definitely want some amiibo of them though..who knows if it'll be possible. The Metroid 3DS game looks a lot of fun, I think it's only getting hated because people wanted a proper game and not one that looks like Hunters but I remember liking hunters back in the day and any flaws it had can be resolved in this sequel.

[CyberCubed]

Pains me to say it, but Nintendo is done. Zelda will probably get the Twilight Princess treatment and come out at the tail-end of the Wii U's life and the NX.

Its odd Starfox is a reimagining of Starfox 64....when Starfox 64 was just given a remake on the 3DS. So its a remake of a remake? At least the levels will be all new this time, even if it follows the same story with some alternate takes. Its probably for the best though then to follow Command, and looks like Krystal is officially being retconned.

And I know Mario Maker and Yoshi will be good, but Nintendo showed us so damn much of those two over and over again that I feel exhausted just by seeing them again.

I feel like if the NX doesn't do any better than the Wii-U did, it will be at the point where Nintendo's home console market either comes to a close or they do something completely different. People said Nintendo would never make mobile games and its happening, their mindset will probably change again if two consoles flop in sales in a row.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

If Nintendo upped their game and did damage control through a kick-ass Direct or two - featuring games for the Wii U, NOT the 3DS - they could so easily gain a lot of positive reception.

They can't honestly expect to launch the NX next year, if that's what they're thinking. The Wii U just came out three years ago, and the PS4 and XBOne only two. People don't want to buy another system, they want to use the one they have... Nintendo's makin' that hard by focusing so heavily on the 3DS and so little on the Wii U.

If they had started the Event with the Smash DLC, put Star Fox in the middle, and put another Zelda U teaser at the end, that would totally have left viewers with a more optimistic view of the Wii U's future.

[TigerClaw]

One of the highlights of that Nintendo E3 Presser, Was seeing Reggie, Iwatta and Miyamoto as Puppets.
http://papapishu.kinja.com/heres-a-b...ets-1711786237

[sdp]

My biggest disappointment with Nintendo was nothing announced for New 3DS, it got worse support than the DSi and will only be selling because it's basically the one that's in stores not because there's any reason to buy one...I'll still buy one because I like the 3D and better 3D is enough of a reason for me to do it but no reason for anyone else to do it.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its probably for the best though then to follow Command, and looks like Krystal is officially being retconned.

Well it's a pseudo prequel, so Krystal hasn't been introduced yet but I'm sure she'll make a cameo appearance since she is fairly popular. I mean you see Peppy being part of the Star Fox team with Fox McCloud so I think they'll be retconning some events from the past few games which is fun since it spices things up and Star Fox continuity is not something anyone is too passionate about as long as its cool. Most SF Command stories and endings were hilarious for that reason, which one is canon? Who cares.

it will be at the point where Nintendo's home console market either comes to a close or they do something completely different.

You could say this about pretty much all three companies, it seems like "hardcore" gaming will slowly be moving to PC, I mean just look at how everything that isn't first party Sony or Microsoft is also for PC and both those companies are not concerned about gaming but being a home theater PC for your living room and they'll be happy to only offer more casual gaming experiences through streaming or whatever. We'll see where the industry is in ten years from now. I'm guessing it'll be in the transitional period of what I just described. I mean I was never a huge PC gamer but I find no reason to own an XBO or PS4 when I have a PC that's just as powerful and can get most of their games far cheaper, their few first party exclusives aren't enough for me to buy another console and Nintendo gives me enough reasons to justify having it in my living room. If you're a big Halo fan or Naughty Dog fan then yeah those would be worth it but they don't do much for me.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

One of the highlights of that Nintendo E3 Presser, Was seeing Reggie, Iwatta and Miyamoto as Puppets.

They were kind of cute but were not even in the same league as the Robot Chicken skit from last year.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

They built this whole cockpit system and its nintendo. Splatoon still uses the gamepad exclusively in the main game even when the pro controller would work a million times better.

Alright pretend. Then there's the lame transformation junk and that it looks like a movie tie in game.

Can't you use a pro controller in Splatoon? I don't have the game so I'm honestly asking. I mean, it's got a local multiplayer where one person uses the TV and the other uses the Gamepad, so I'm assuming you can.

Not that using the Gamepad is a bad thing. I love it.

Also I don't see why Arwing transformation suddenly makes the game look like a movie tie-in...? What are you even talking about? I thought the walker looked like fun to play as, and it probably controls much better than the on-foot sections in Star Fox Assault. [Which was a mostly great game, by the way. I ****ing love it.]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Pains me to say it, but Nintendo is done. Zelda will probably get the Twilight Princess treatment and come out at the tail-end of the Wii U's life and the NX.

I absolutely agree that Zelda might very well get the Twilight Princess treatment, but the delay of this ONE game doesn't spell this humongous loss for Nintendo like you're implying. Or are you forgetting that not every Nintendo fan even gives a rat's ass about Zelda...? We exist.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its odd Starfox is a reimagining of Starfox 64....when Starfox 64 was just given a remake on the 3DS. So its a remake of a remake? At least the levels will be all new this time, even if it follows the same story with some alternate takes.

IT'S NOT A REMAKE OF STAR FOX 64.
Maybe people will hear me this time. They said it in the presentation themselves.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

One of the worst & most cringeworthy things Nintendo has done in recent years was using puppets, adding insult to injury in their very lackluster presentation.

Fixed that for you.

[TigerClaw]

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