Deadpool movie finally gets a release date

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm not denying that Stan Lee has made a great contributions to comic book industry. But why give him a cameo in the movie of a character he didn't create?
That's like putting Aphex Twin's name on the cover of a Squarepusher album.

It's just a silly tradition, don't take it so seriously.

[joefsas]

http://geektyrant.com/news/first-two...rive-next-week

Should hopefully be getting two trailers next week guys!
One of which will be a red-band trailer.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

It's just a silly tradition, don't take it so seriously.

I'm taking it very seriously and there's nothing you can do about it.

[THGhost]

I always said that Stan Lee is practically the face of Marvel. It only makes sense to give him a cameo. And why shouldn't he get a cameo? He might be a huge Deadpool fan for all you know.

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

If he could only cameo in movies of characters he actually created then he'd only be in Spider-Man movies.

What a ludicrous claim. He created a lot more than just Spider-Man, y'know.

[sdp]

Ditko, Kirby. etc. It's a well known fact Stan took a lot more credit than owed for things. I'm not in the Lee never did anything camp but yeah the only reason he gets cameos is because he's the face of Marvel not because he created any one character or he wouldn't be getting any cameos. I mean Deadpool IS a mutant which is something Stan helped create in one way or another no matter how you feel about it so yeah this cameo is as deserved as it can get. Has Stan continued making cameos in all the Marvel movies? There's so many I don't think even a young man would be able to keep up.

[Amaranthus]

Deadpool isn't a mutant.

[NinjaPug]

Stan didn't create him. He shouldn't be in the movie just because it's a Marvel character. His cameos suck anyway.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

Deadpool IS a mutant which is something Stan helped create in one way or another

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Deadpool isn't a mutant.

He's a mutate.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by JTH

The trailer was hilarious, they made no secret this is gonna be an "R" rated movie.

Also, Stan Lee's best cameo to date.

Good to see another one, since he didn't have one in DoFP- at least not that I ever saw.

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I didn't see Stan Lee in the trailer. Got a comic book screenshot?
Why is he even getting a cameo? He didn't create Deadpool. Jesus Christ.

Perhaps not, but HE DID create (or contribute to) MOST of Marvel's main heroes- and was also one of the founders of the company! Learn some history, would ya?

Originally Posted by THGhost

This upload includes a moment at 2:30 where

Spoiler:

Deadpool shoots three dudes in the head with a single bullet.

It was previously unseen due to somebody walking passed the camera in all previous uploads.


At 2:05 in the upload above.

He also didn't create Captain America, but still got a cameo in both of his movies. I guess it no longer matters whether or not he created the character, he's practically the face of Marvel.

The reason is because he's been with Marvel almost since the company was created. He HAS been involved with almost every character they have, at one time or another. THAT'S why he's the "face" of Marvel- he MADE them what they are today!

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Ugh...I'm so over these Stan Lee cameos especially in movies for characters he didn't create. Why would Fox want him in this movie?

See above comment.

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

If he could only cameo in movies of characters he actually created then he'd only be in Spider-Man movies.

I have a feeling this movie will not do very well.

Not true. Iron-Man, Hulk, Fantastic Four (which Fox also has rights to, incidentally) and the Avengers, to name a few. Between him, Ditko, Kirby, and Claremont, there's not a Marvel character created that he hasn't had some kind of involvement with.

Originally Posted by Jester

What? Hulk, Iron Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four....all created by Stan.

This.

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm not denying that Stan Lee has made a great contributions to comic book industry. But why give him a cameo in the movie of a character he didn't create?
That's like putting Aphex Twin's name on the cover of a Squarepusher album.

Why? Marvel owes most of its popularity and name to him, that's why. Along with the others I mentioned above. He's been with them a LOOONG time.

Originally Posted by THGhost

I always said that Stan Lee is practically the face of Marvel. It only makes sense to give him a cameo. And why shouldn't he get a cameo? He might be a huge Deadpool fan for all you know.

What a ludicrous claim. He created a lot more than just Spider-Man, y'know.

Actually, he is. He's also a fan of the X-Men, and his cameos go back all the way to the 90's Spider-Man TAS series- he had one in the last episode of the series, during the Spider-Carnage arc. It was animated, but they used his ACTUAL voice!

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

Ditko, Kirby. etc. It's a well known fact Stan took a lot more credit than owed for things. I'm not in the Lee never did anything camp but yeah the only reason he gets cameos is because he's the face of Marvel not because he created any one character or he wouldn't be getting any cameos. I mean Deadpool IS a mutant which is something Stan helped create in one way or another no matter how you feel about it so yeah this cameo is as deserved as it can get. Has Stan continued making cameos in all the Marvel movies? There's so many I don't think even a young man would be able to keep up.

Deadpool is not a MUTANT, he's part of a Weapon X program experiment, which used test subjects to recreate mutant abilities in normal humans. He was the only survivor of the experiment, hence his name. And his powers came from Wolverine's blood.

Also, he's had one in every movie except DoFP, unless he had one in it that I missed- and I was watching the Rogue Cut!

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Deadpool isn't a mutant.

No, but he DOES have mutant-derived powers. Wolverine's, in fact. It's a technicality.

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Stan didn't create him. He shouldn't be in the movie just because it's a Marvel character. His cameos suck anyway.

Many Marvel fans would disagree. So would Marvel, I'm guessing.

Originally Posted by THGhost

He's a mutate.

Not quite. Marvel doesn't classify him in with the Mutates, because those were created by Mr. Sinister in the Savage Land. Deadpool was a Weapon X test subject, using Wolverine's healing factor to halt his cancer, and giving him a permanent healing ability. He was the only survivor of the group who was in the experiment. Hence his name. They had a betting pool on who would survive the longest- a "dead pool". Obviously, he won....

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

I cannot believe people are arguing this much over 2 second cameos in movies.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Me either. Though I HAD to chime in on the Marvel history side, given my screen name, LOL!

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not quite. Marvel doesn't classify him in with the Mutates, because those were created by Mr. Sinister in the Savage Land. Deadpool was a Weapon X test subject, using Wolverine's healing factor to halt his cancer, and giving him a permanent healing ability. He was the only survivor of the group who was in the experiment. Hence his name. They had a betting pool on who would survive the longest- a "dead pool". Obviously, he won....

You're right, he's not part of The Savage Land Mutates. But he is a mutate and Marvel definitely classifies him as one. Even Deadpool himself classifies himself as one.
Mutates acquire their powers through unnatural, external stimuli. That stimuli in this case being the Weapon X Program. The same goes for Spider-Man, The Hulk, etc.

Note that he's a mutate, with a lower-case M. Not an upper-case M, meaning he's not part of the group known as The Savage Land Mutates. The definition and the group are two separate things.

[TLP]

I managed to see the trailer during the few minutes it was up last month. (Mr. Snail Mail here.)

This is just me, but a few of the jokes felt a little forced like the Green Lantern movie jab or the back-and-forth jokes about Wade's scars. Everything else seems decent. I'm loving the costumes for sure.

[THGhost]

The Green Lantern joke is warranted though, you've gotta admit.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by joefsas

http://geektyrant.com/news/first-two...rive-next-week

Should hopefully be getting two trailers next week guys!
One of which will be a red-band trailer.

Sweet. Can't wait for it.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by joefsas

http://geektyrant.com/news/first-two...rive-next-week

Should hopefully be getting two trailers next week guys!
One of which will be a red-band trailer.

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Sweet. Can't wait for it.

One will actually be a green-band trailer, a more family-friendly version of the red-band version:
http://comicbook.com/2015/07/31/dead...date-revealed/

It'll be interesting to see how they water it down for the green-band.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by THGhost

You're right, he's not part of The Savage Land Mutates. But he is a mutate and Marvel definitely classifies him as one. Even Deadpool himself classifies himself as one.
Mutates acquire their powers through unnatural, external stimuli. That stimuli in this case being the Weapon X Program. The same goes for Spider-Man, The Hulk, etc.

Note that he's a mutate, with a lower-case M. Not an upper-case M, meaning he's not part of the group known as The Savage Land Mutates. The definition and the group are two separate things.

When has he ever been called a mutate? Not in any of the comics I own- which is MOST of his series from 2002-2007 as well as a number of his guest appearances in Spidey and Avengers books, among others. Also, his origin and history changes more often than Mystique's disguises. Seriously. Even HE can't keep his own backstory straight, and the definition of Mutates I'm familiar with includes only those who have been directly and INTENTIONALLY altered using a mutant genome which MIGHT include DP (kind of iffy, since he keeps changing his own backstory), but NOT Spidey or Hulk, or anyone else who gained powers from accidents or other sources. They are merely considered "powered humans".

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

When has he ever been called a mutate? Not in any of the comics I own- which is MOST of his series from 2002-2007 as well as a number of his guest appearances in Spidey and Avengers books, among others. Also, his origin and history changes more often than Mystique's disguises. Seriously. Even HE can't keep his own backstory straight, and the definition of Mutates I'm familiar with includes only those who have been directly and INTENTIONALLY altered using a mutant genome which MIGHT include DP (kind of iffy, since he keeps changing his own backstory), but NOT Spidey or Hulk, or anyone else who gained powers from accidents or other sources. They are merely considered "powered humans".

Play the Deadpool game, he says it himself. Although he does include the word "technically". I guess it all depends on who you ask since his backstory does change from time to time. But I can't find anything about it having to be intentional, as long as it was caused by an external source. That's how Marvel classifies it anyway:

""Mutate" is a term used to refer to superhumans who acquired their superpowers by exposure to some mutagenic compound or energy (either accidentally or deliberately). Unlike Marvel's Mutants, Mutates require external stimuli to acquire their powers (i.e. they weren't born with the potential to manifest powers)."

"Deadpool fits into this category as he gained his healing factor from genetic alteration from the Weapon-X program (derived from Wolverine's)."

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutate_(comics)

Deadpool is also listed on these lists of mutates - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Comics_mutates, http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Mutates, and is categorised as a "Human Mutate" on his official Wiki page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool. The same goes for Spider-Man and The Hulk who is a Human Gamma Mutate.

A quick Google search also brings up several places where people ask if Deadpool is a mutant or a mutate and the answer they get is mutate.

I do hope the movie won't have a complicated backstory for him as well.

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm not denying that Stan Lee has made a great contributions to comic book industry. But why give him a cameo in the movie of a character he didn't create?

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

It's just a silly tradition, don't take it so seriously.

Words to live by.

[Autbot_Benz]

A teaser before the actual trailer comes out

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

A teaser before the actual trailer comes out

Gosh darn it you beat me to it.

I must have watched the leaked footage a hundred times by now, and I'm still excited to see it in HD. God that suit looks great.