Warcraft

[Vicky82]

Looks awesome, I'm hoping for a Hogger, Mankirk and his Wife cameo in this

I hate to say it but this could beat TMNT 2 and maybe be the top grossing movie for June.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Here's the Warcraft movie trailer.

Well, I'm sold. Where do I preorder tickets?

[TigerClaw]

Here's some stills.

Spoiler:

[Commenter 42]

Damn Paula Patton, what's up girl! Sisters in green paint, yes, yes, and yes.

I always back CG as the better way - but, this. looks. terrible. I know the argument that it's not final, etc, but there's no reality to anything at all. The designs are great, but the cg just feels so, cartoonish.

I never thought I'd be the one to say it, but I really think this would have been the right film to go with with practical effects. I don't know. Feels like the quality of CG has been gone down hill in Hollywood since 2012.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Damn Paula Patton, what's up girl! Sisters in green paint, yes, yes, and yes.

I always back CG as the better way - but, this. looks. terrible. I know the argument that it's not final, etc, but there's no reality to anything at all. The designs are great, but the cg just feels so, cartoonish.

I never thought I'd be the one to say it, but I really think this would have been the right film to go with with practical effects. I don't know. Feels like the quality of CG has been gone down hill in Hollywood since 2012.

And this is the issue. The Orcs look like direct rips from Warcraft, almost exact in proportion and design, but the humans are all real actors. If the whole movie was CG, it would feel right, but it would alienate the audience who would avoid a 'cartoon'. If there are live actors, then it's just the next summer blockbuster CG-fest. lol

As a Vanilla raider, I'm pretty stoked for this.

[TigerClaw]

I never played the Warcraft games, but anyone noticed the Orc baby appears to be green, but the parents are all brown, whats up with that?

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

And this is the issue. The Orcs look like direct rips from Warcraft, almost exact in proportion and design, but the humans are all real actors. If the whole movie was CG, it would feel right, but it would alienate the audience who would avoid a 'cartoon'. If there are live actors, then it's just the next summer blockbuster CG-fest. lol

As a Vanilla raider, I'm pretty stoked for this.

On the face of it, yeah, you'd think maybe CG was the way to go...and I don't think the design is bad - but, the look and feel - the render, it looks like PDMT did - cartoonish and terrible.

somebody, somewhere is making the wrong call. Cg can look photo real. Something is up.

I don't know enough about the game to really comment on much else - but once again it feels like they missed the mark.

Then again, this doesn't look to be any better really. Guy in costume is still a guy in costume. He does look like he's physically there, but there's no invocation of the suspension of disbelief.
Hollywood needs to work on it's magic. Maybe they can start by paying out more money for effects than the "stars". Spending 10 million on effects, (hundreds of people) and 15 million on one actor is idiotic.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I never played the Warcraft games, but anyone noticed the Orc baby appears to be green, but the parents are all brown, whats up with that?

Not sure. Maybe that's the green character Played by Paula Patton?

[NinjaPug]

I know nothing about Warcraft but I like Duncan Jones and the fantasy genre so I'm interested.

What's the overall story of the game?

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I never played the Warcraft games, but anyone noticed the Orc baby appears to be green, but the parents are all brown, whats up with that?

That's baby Thrall!

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

That's baby Thrall!

Yeah, That's what I read, But dont know why the baby appears green, I'm not familiar with Warcraft lore, so I'm sure there is a reason.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

On the face of it, yeah, you'd think maybe CG was the way to go...and I don't think the design is bad - but, the look and feel - the render, it looks like PDMT did - cartoonish and terrible.

somebody, somewhere is making the wrong call. Cg can look photo real. Something is up.

I don't know enough about the game to really comment on much else - but once again it feels like they missed the mark.

Exactly my point. They were going for this weird thing in-between matching the style of the game, but completely neglecting that for the humans. The orcs look identical to in-game or Blur-cinematic orcs. The humans are live actors, which only emphasizes the odd choice.It would have been interesting to see a more realistic take on orcies, or just a whole CG movie. This is a bit jarring.

It doesn't look as awkward when everyone is bulky and toonish.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Yeah, That's what I read, But dont know why the baby appears green, I'm not familiar with Warcraft lore, so I'm sure there is a reason.

Well, there's a lot to it, but basically green-skinned orcs are orcs that have either been corrupted with the blood curse from drinking the blood of Mannoroth or have just had exposure to fel magic. The natural color of orcs is the brownish color. (And then there are fel orcs, which have bright red skin and eyes from 'overdosing' on fel magic.).

Warcraft lore is worse than Star Wars. It's so friggen in-depth and crazy with a million expanded universe stories an characters and timelines and...guh. It'll make your head spin.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

Well, there's a lot to it, but basically green-skinned orcs are orcs that have either been corrupted with the blood curse from drinking the blood of Mannoroth or have just had exposure to fel magic. The natural color of orcs is the brownish color. (And then there are fel orcs, which have bright red skin and eyes from 'overdosing' on fel magic.).

Warcraft lore is worse than Star Wars. It's so friggen in-depth and crazy with a million expanded universe stories an characters and timelines and...guh. It'll make your head spin.

I'm sure the movie will be entertaining with a lot of action, and great visuals.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

It would have been interesting to see a more realistic take on orcies, or just a whole CG movie. This is a bit jarring.

It doesn't look as awkward when everyone is bulky and toonish.

I just wonder why this is the new trend. Unrealistic CG in a live action world is kind of pointless - if it's not integrated into the shot 100%, it breaks the illusion, like a bad street magician.


Ted is obviously not a real effect, but they make the effort to sell the gag.

There hasn't been a good fantasy movie in a very long time - Guardians was the closest we've had, and obviously that's the wrong genre.

Was sort of hoping this would be it.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I just wonder why this is the new trend. Unrealistic CG in a live action world is kind of pointless - if it's not integrated into the shot 100%, it breaks the illusion, like a bad street magician.

http://www.maxim.com/sites/default/f...?itok=TKjcDpQo
Ted is obviously not a real effect, but they make the effort to sell the gag.

There hasn't been a good fantasy movie in a very long time - Guardians was the closest we've had, and obviously that's the wrong genre.

Was sort of hoping this would be it.

I guess we'll see. I'm still stuck on everyone's shoulders being so flipping tiny. And I was kinda hoping Garona would look a tad more Draenei for the movie. =/

Warcraft has an impressively expansive universe and cast of characters for story-telling. I just hope that is going to get across without making me roll my eyes too much. Either way, Durotan's story isn't the one I'm interested in. I want this to lead to an Arthas movie or one starring Thrall.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

I guess we'll see. I'm still stuck on everyone's shoulders being so flipping tiny. And I was kinda hoping Garona would look a tad more Draenei for the movie. =/

Warcraft has an impressively expansive universe and cast of characters for story-telling. I just hope that is going to get across without making me roll my eyes too much. Either way, Durotan's story isn't the one I'm interested in. I want this to lead to an Arthas movie or one starring Thrall.

Lol, this must be how my GF feels when I talk TMNT. I don't have a clue what you're talking about with those story lines -

A friend of mine was a big fan of the game years ago - would go on and on about how they need to make a movie, etc... which is why i thought this was going to be an epic film.

Googling Garona - yeah, I get that she looks really human - (It's hard to mind much when it's your Hollywood crush). If I knew more about W.O.W. I'd be pissed too, I think.

I thought there were more races though - aren't there tiger men and tortoise people and wolf people, Elves, Panda men, etc. etc ... looked like the trailer only had Orcs and Humans.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Lol, this must be how my GF feels when I talk TMNT. I don't have a clue what you're talking about with those story lines -

Well yea. Warcraft is another one of those rabbit holes. (And this is just lore, not even touching on actual gameplay. XD)
For example, the ongoing joke is that WoW shoulder armor is always comically large. So when movie poster were released, some players 'fixed' them.

Spoiler:

Totally accurate proportions.

A friend of mine was a big fan of the game years ago - would go on and on about how they need to make a movie, etc... which is why i thought this was going to be an epic film.

Googling Garona - yeah, I get that she looks really human - (It's hard to mind much when it's your Hollywood crush). If I knew more about W.O.W. I'd be pissed too, I think.

I thought there were more races though - aren't there tiger men and tortoise people and wolf people, Elves, Panda men, etc. etc ... looked like the trailer only had Orcs and Humans.

Its ok for her to look human, because she thinks she's half-orc/half-human for a while, but she's actually half-orc/half-draenei. I'm just a big fan of the way Draenei look so I was hoping we'd get a bit in the film.

Spoiler:

Standard female draenei.

The main WoW races, as per the new expansion, are as follows:
Horde- Orc, Undead, Troll, Goblin, Blood Elf, Tauren.
Alliance- Human, Dwarf, Gnome, Night Elf, Draenei, Worgen (Werewolf).
Neutral- Panderians.
There are hundreds of other races including ogres, pig people, hyena people, cat people, bug people, centaurs, walrus people, different kinds of spirits, naga, fungus people, ents, murlocs, energy people, frost giants, demons, dragons and it goes on and on. And even within the non-playable and playable races, there are different kinds of factions/tribes of those races that interact with you differently based on your own race and faction.
Then again, this story is a pretty early one in Warcraft history. If you're talking World of Warcraft, well, Thrall is the leader of the Horde by then. And WoW has always done a good job of leading into nastier baddies expansion by expansion. Take Burning Crusade:

Spoiler:

You have Illidan Stormrage as the final boss. He's stupid hard and most players don't even get a chance to fight him, let alone beat him, due to the coordination and man power required to run Black Temple. Needless to say, pretty difficult boss.

Then came Wrath of the Lich King as an expansion, starring Arthas.

Spoiler:

And when this was announced, players were pissing themselves. Because Arthas is able to smack Illidan around like a little bitch, as illustrated in Warcraft 3:

Spoiler:

So if they keep making movies, we're in for some amazingly epic showdowns.


TLDR: I hope this movie does well. Because as far as I'm concerned, it's just a beta test.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

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Awesome. This really helped me -read it all - thanks.

So basically, I'm not wrong - There's a huge world of fascinating creatures and lots of places for the films to explore.

I'm interested in the larger idea, sounds great, and could be amazing done right.

Thanks for taking the time.


Ok - so if she's part Orc and Part Draenei or a Blue person - why is she Green? - the magic blood thing? wouldn't she be greyish or maybe kind of purple?

[JakeSully]

This could be fun and it's done by a talented director who is a huge fan of the games and could break the game film curse.

[Vicky82]

Looks like Warcraft 2nd trailer is coming out this month.

https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/stat...42546225762306