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Old 01-14-2016, 08:22 PM   #321
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Either that, or the kid has no idea who Deadpool really IS, and just thinks he like Spider-Man "because he's funny". And the parent is also clueless....
Clueless either way.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:38 PM   #322
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Parents should do research.

I grew up watching R-rated action films like Commando (saw that in theaters at age 4), Die Hard movies (saw them all in theaters), Lethal Weapon movies, Predator, Total Recall, T2 etc. all in theaters when i was a kid and teenager and had no problems.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:58 PM   #323
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I think the problem here is that because it's a superhero flick, parents will think it's "safe". Won't they be surprised when it's nothing like they expect?! Though if you can't figure that out by the trailer, there's something wrong with you. Three kills with one bullet? Yeah, that's pretty violent, and the close-up of his butt is just- parents really SHOULD know what to expect going into this, even if the kiddies don't.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:28 PM   #324
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I heard there's mad titties in this flick, too, so there's also that. Whoo! Can't wait to see random adults yanking their kids out of their seats by the scruff of the neck about 5 minutes into it. Gonna be "Watchmen" all over again, probably.

Yeah, I don't get why some people automatically think "appropriate for kids" when they see something super-hero related. Not everything has to have a "safe" version for nose-pickers, damn.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:44 PM   #325
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See, you're finally starting to "get" it! It's part of the paradox of his character that he questions the nature of his reality, all the while knowing exactly what that reality is.
But my hang up is that he's a contradiction. A fictional character can't know he's fictional, because he's fictional! It'd be one thing for him to think he's inside a comic book... it's completely another to know you are.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:48 PM   #326
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Do you read a lot of Grant Morrison? If not I understand. Just wondering.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:46 AM   #327
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I also don't understand the appeal of Deadpool, to me it's just a character that panders to whatever the internet wants sort of like Family Guy. But I guess that's why he's popular. I did like the second Deadpool trailer and yeah there's good Deadpool content but they try way too hard.


I kind of understand why parents would think all superhero movies should be "safe", isn't this the same problems comics had in the 80s/90s? Of course "adult" comics or in this case comic movies are really just movies that are not aimed at kids who aren't 13 yet.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:17 AM   #328
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Not all comics are for kids SDP, what about Heavy Metal Magazine, Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke, Batman Year One, The Swamp Thing, Road to Perdition, Sin City, 300, Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo, Ghost in the Shell by Masamune Shiro, Preacher, Alan Moore's stuff especially V For Vendetta etc.? aimed at mature readers.

And do you think it's the same as some think animation is for kids. What about things like South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut, Heavy Metal, Wizards, Watership Down, Felidae, Plague Dogs, Fantastic Planet, Fire and Ice, American Pop, Ninja Scroll, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Dark Knight Returns, Wicked City, Golgo 13 The Professional, Batman Under the Red Hood, Fritz the Cat, Princess Mononoke etc.? adult animation you know.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:27 AM   #329
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I didn't say I thought all comics are for kids, I said I understood why parents would think superhero movies are for kids. Comics can be many things but superheroes are more easily thought of as something for kids even now, I mentioned how this was the same problem comics had in the 80s/90s when they became more "mature" and many didn't like that. Also I meant that by "adult" comics they're not for people who are 18+, any person who is older than 12 should be mature enough to understand most of those examples you listed, so they're not really "adult", just not for kids.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:41 AM   #330
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I didn't say I thought all comics are for kids, I said I understood why parents would think superhero movies are for kids. Comics can be many things but superheroes are more easily thought of as something for kids even now, I mentioned how this was the same problem comics had in the 80s/90s when they became more "mature" and many didn't like that. Also I meant that by "adult" comics they're not for people who are 18+, any person who is older than 12 should be mature enough to understand most of those examples you listed, so they're not really "adult", just not for kids.
You mean for mature readers especially Watchmen and Heavy Metal Magazine?

And would you let kids watch those animated movies i mentioned?
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:37 AM   #331
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But my hang up is that he's a contradiction. A fictional character can't know he's fictional, because he's fictional! It'd be one thing for him to think he's inside a comic book... it's completely another to know you are.

But that's the POINT! He's the voice of reality, the omniscient narrator as it were, of his own story. Ever play the XBox game The Bard's Tale? He holds conversations with his narrator too. It's a paradox that they are self-aware of their situation being a fictional story- and that's entirely by design. Deadpool is SUPPPOSED to question the writer or talk to the audience, to remind them that it's all just entertainment and to make them think about the nature of reality. He's existential philosophy personified.


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I also don't understand the appeal of Deadpool, to me it's just a character that panders to whatever the internet wants sort of like Family Guy. But I guess that's why he's popular. I did like the second Deadpool trailer and yeah there's good Deadpool content but they try way too hard.

I kind of understand why parents would think all superhero movies should be "safe", isn't this the same problems comics had in the 80s/90s? Of course "adult" comics or in this case comic movies are really just movies that are not aimed at kids who aren't 13 yet.

Hmm, from the sound of it, you guys REALLY don't know Deadpool. He's never pandered to ANYONE unless as the ultimate macho fantasy of a man with literally nothing to lose or fear, and thus no filter or moral qualms. He's kind of like Bruce Willis in Die Hard, but without any of the moral restraints. He hasn't always been the good guy, after all. He's known as "the merc with the mouth" for a REASON. He IS a mercenary by nature, he just happens to mostly fall on the side of good by happenstance.

Oddly enough though, he DOES want to be a better person, to stand beside heroes like Steve Rogers or Peter Parker as an equal. And like Wolverine, he's VERY rough around the edges, but basically has his heart in the right place. He just speaks his mind in ways the others don't. He's not afraid to kill whoever he has to to get the job done, so he's sometimes seen as a menace. It's just that he has NO problems with committing "murder" in the course of helping those in trouble.


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I didn't say I thought all comics are for kids, I said I understood why parents would think superhero movies are for kids. Comics can be many things but superheroes are more easily thought of as something for kids even now, I mentioned how this was the same problem comics had in the 80s/90s when they became more "mature" and many didn't like that. Also I meant that by "adult" comics they're not for people who are 18+, any person who is older than 12 should be mature enough to understand most of those examples you listed, so they're not really "adult", just not for kids.

This is exactly why the comic ratings system was created.....
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:56 PM   #332
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So, I'm pretty nervous about seeing Deadpool in theatres. (It'll be 16+ probably. That's the maximum rating here. But I'm nervous about the trailers being shown beforehand because I'm a pussy.
16+ basically means there's a possibility they'll show horror trailers before Deadpool. I'm fine with graphic violence and stuff. I just can't handle horror and jumpscares.
Can anyone give me some advice? I really hope I'm not derailing this thread too much, but since we're talking about ratings I thought I'd give it a shot.
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Old 01-15-2016, 01:06 PM   #333
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So, I'm pretty nervous about seeing Deadpool in theatres. (It'll be 16+ probably. That's the maximum rating here. But I'm nervous about the trailers being shown beforehand because I'm a pussy.
16+ basically means there's a possibility they'll show horror trailers before Deadpool. I'm fine with graphic violence and stuff. I just can't handle horror and jumpscares.
Can anyone give me some advice? I really hope I'm not derailing this thread too much, but since we're talking about ratings I thought I'd give it a shot.
I hate horror, too. Just close your eyes or make out with your date. People get super uncomfortable if you're making out while Scream 72's trailer is playing with lots of terrified screams and demonic groans.
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I hate horror, too. Just close your eyes or make out with your date. People get super uncomfortable if you're making out while Scream 72's trailer is playing with lots of terrified screams and demonic groans.
I was planning on mailing the theatre about it. They're really fast when you ask them a question. If there's no horror trailers I won't have to worry.
It'd make more sense for horror trailers just to be shown before horror movies. But that's not how it works, sadly.
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I was planning on mailing the theatre about it. They're really fast when you ask them a question. If there's no horror trailers I won't have to worry.
It'd make more sense for horror trailers just to be shown before horror movies. But that's not how it works, sadly.
Nope. It'd be nice if that WAS how it worked, but it's not. But hey, the sounds aren't usually too horrorific and closing your eyes is easy. If it's a HUGE deal, take headphones and an MP3 player to block it out.
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Nope. It'd be nice if that WAS how it worked, but it's not. But hey, the sounds aren't usually too horrorific and closing your eyes is easy. If it's a HUGE deal, take headphones and an MP3 player to block it out.
My only problem with that is I won't know when they're done.
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My only problem with that is I won't know when they're done.
Peek. They can't do anything THAT terrible in the trailer. Or take a good friend, someone not like me.

I'd tell you it was over halfway thru the trailer.
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Do you read a lot of Grant Morrison? If not I understand. Just wondering.
Nope. 9/10 times his work doesn't resonate with me. I like a lot of the broad strokes of his stories but it always fails to connect on an emotional level.

Even All-Star Superman was pretty ho-hum to me. Aside from that one page where the girl contemplates suicide. "You're stronger than you think you are." Great stuff there. But as a whole, his work feels like a chore to sit through. The Filth was once of the most defining examples of wasted time and money in my life. What an awful book.
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I hate horror, too. Just close your eyes or make out with your date. People get super uncomfortable if you're making out while Scream 72's trailer is playing with lots of terrified screams and demonic groans.
I feel as if I no longer know you.... Horror is my bread and butter, man! I cut my teeth on Freddy, Chucky, and their ilk. Somehow I had the impression you liked scary movies.
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Way to totally miss the point, fanboys.
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