Official TMNT 2 Trailer #2 Discussion

[DioLeo451]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I wonder who's voicing Splinter because that doesn't sound like Tony Shalhoub.

Still Tony Shalhoub

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Powder

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, they add a Turtles Try To Become Human plot. Jesus Chriiiiiist.:

As everyone has pointed out, the original 'toon did that several times. In fact, I would'nt be surprised if Mikey's the one to turn human like in the old 'toon (I remember that one more for him kissing April at the end)

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

That wasn't.... bad.

I'm still hesitant to believe that the Turtles are the focus of this movie, but if they are, good. I don't really mind the human subplot as long as its not really over the top, although it defies logic and physics and chemistry for the purple mutagen to turn them human.

It seems like a kids movie where the Turtles are gonna learn some sort of lesson about being who they truly are.

Its interesting cause this purple ooze also acts as a retromutagen, so instead of having two different kinds, they just combined it into one.

Now if the purple ooze can turn mutants into humans, then it's possible that the Turtles will use the purple ooze on Bebop and Rocksteady, to turn them back to humans in the end, just like how it happened in Secret Of The Ooze, turning Rahzar and Tokka back to normal animals.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by ceres

Some of these lines are the next mutation like in cheesiness xd

TNM > PDTMNT

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You do know the original 'toon did that several times right? In fact, I would'nt be surprised if Mikey's the one to turn human, that's what happened in the old 'toon too

It was awful & stupid then, too. Besides, a throwaway episode & a theatrical film are of wildly different scales. One's a bug in an otherwise deliciously prepared meal, the other's like a gunshot wound after a stabbing. If they wanted a nostalgic ooze plot, they should've used retro-mutagen, Shredder threatening to strip them back to standard turtle forms. More compelling, less cheesy.

[ZariusTwo]

[Zombilly]

I bet the mutagen to turn them human will end up altering their appearance, to change it up from the current look that not many seem to care for anyway.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh wow.

And some of us foolishly believed this would be an improvement over the first movie.

"We can be human?" Shoot me.

(Completely overshadowed by that BS, Splinter looks better and the "I'm a little piggy" joke did make me laugh...)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

TNM > PDTMNT



It was awful & stupid then, too. Besides, a throwaway episode & a theatrical film are of wildly different scales. One's a bug in an otherwise deliciously prepared meal, the other's like a gunshot wound after a stabbing. If they wanted a nostalgic ooze plot, they should've used retro-mutagen, Shredder threatening to strip them back to standard turtle forms. More compelling, less cheesy.

THANK you. Just because something came from the cartoon doesn't mean it isn't idiotic drivel.

[neatoman]

So basically the plot is going to be about Shredder trying to turn humans into animal monsters. If I had to guess it's to fend off Kraang rather than serve Kraang, seeing how there are no mutants in the Technodrome's attack. Oh yeah, and obviously the Turtles are still going to be Turtles at the end of the movie, more sequels and all that.

I'm assuming the effects of the purple mutagen are not permanent, seeing how Donnie uses it on his hand and like I said before, they're not going to be human at the end of the movie. I'm fine with it, might explain why Bebop and Rocksteady are so casual about being transformed into monsters, and it makes the human to mutant transformation different from the animal mutant transformation in a more practical way.

Let's face it, it didn't really matter in previous incarnations if the mutants started out as human or animals, both basically yielded the same results. So if this really where they're going with this (that Bebop and Rocksteady can/will transform back into humans), I'm fine with it.

Spoiler:

That said, the turtles wanting to transform into humans is a dumb plot regardless.

Originally Posted by evan2000

"HUMAN?"

http://i.imgur.com/VLEThC3.jpg

And thankfully, it can't be as bad as that.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Zombilly

I bet the mutagen to turn them human will end up altering their appearance, to change it up from the current look that not many seem to care for anyway.

They are not going to turn human, they are just talking about it but Leo and maybe Donnie is against the idea but Raph and Mikey want to turn human. But in the end they will know it's going to be bad idea anyway

[Powder]

If you don't think at least Noel Fisher is gonna have an on-screen appearance, you're nuts. They've been pushing their facial resemblances since day one, & now can't help but take it one step further. Be it a temporary de-mutation, a dream sequence, whatever, I'd bet we'll see one or all of their human actors pop up.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

They are not going to turn human, they are just talking about it but Leo and maybe Donnie is against the idea but Raph and Mikey want to turn human. But in the end they will know it's going to be bad idea anyway

I think the Turtles will use the purple ooze to turn Bebop and Rocksteady back into humans, just like what happened in Secret Of The Ooze.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I think the Turtles will use the purple ooze to turn Bebop and Rocksteady back into humans, just like what happened in Secret Of The Ooze.

So what? Basically a remake of that movie with Kraang replacing Vanilla Ice?

[Foombamaroom]

"We could become human... and spend less money on CGI."


Mutants to humans? Movie 1 was Amazing Spider-Man, and I guess Movie 2 will be X-Men. Fvckin' hell, writers.

But I just can't wait to watch this movie using... ugh... other methods.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I think the Turtles will use the purple ooze to turn Bebop and Rocksteady back into humans, just like what happened in Secret Of The Ooze.

I rather not see Bebop and Rocksteady turn back into humans because if there is going to be a 3rd movie, I like to see them in that.

[IndigoErth]

Human? Eh... Hoping that is only a very minor small side thing that doesn't really develop and by the end they are happy to be who they are. The one aspect I like there with that is the suggestion of a possible division between them where that is concerned with Leo being opposed to the idea. Speaking of which/who - appreciate a little more focus on him in this, or at least this trailer, after the first film mostly just had him present and accounted for and not much else. That plus the fact indications are looking pretty good that we're getting Pete voicing Leo, so at least that much gets points from me, for better or for worse otherwise.

But what is with these mutagens and the crazy stuff they can do unintentionally?

Okay, humans are animals too, and I suppose it stands to reason that it's not just humans that could be turned into something else, but should it really work that way with someone who's already been mutated? Donnie you're going to end up a twitching lump on the floor if you keep experimenting on yourself.

Also, it's weird how something as normal as having five fingers looks REALLY creepy and bizarre on them. o.O (Even when it would have made sense for them to have all five in the first place. At least the designers didn't do that.)



edit: Though this now added interesting context to one of the lines said by the talking Leo figure.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

"We could become human... and spend less money on CGI."


Mutants to humans? Movie 1 was Amazing Spider-Man, and I guess Movie 2 will be X-Men. Fvckin' hell, writers.

But I just can't wait to watch this movie using... ugh... other methods.

They are not going to turn human, they are just talking and arguing about it.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

They are not going to turn human, they are just talking and arguing about it.

Don't mind them, they will argue over anything.

anyways, they hardly show Krang in this new trailer, cause they wanna keep it a surprise, which I think is a good thing.

Shredder wants to built an army of mutants, which he's done in previous cartoons, I wonder if Krang has something to do with it, perhaps that purple ooze is from dimension X, just like in the 80s cartoon.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Powder

If they wanted a nostalgic ooze plot, they should've used retro-mutagen, Shredder threatening to strip them back to standard turtle forms. More compelling, less cheesy.

Visions of a different sequel that never came to pass...

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

They are not going to turn human, they are just talking and arguing about it.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Don't mind them, they will argue over anything.

You can't say they won't with any more certainty than we speculate they will. Knock it off.