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Old 11-10-2016, 02:58 PM   #261
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Fitting to have this movie come out the same year as Brexit and a Trump presidency. Amazing how movies mirror real life sometimes.
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Old 11-10-2016, 03:36 PM   #262
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Fitting to have this movie come out the same year as Brexit and a Trump presidency. Amazing how movies mirror real life sometimes.
Are you still going on about that?
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Old 11-10-2016, 03:42 PM   #263
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Fitting to have this movie come out the same year as Brexit and a Trump presidency. Amazing how movies mirror real life sometimes.
A group of minorities and aliens decide to f*ck stuff up for the glorious empire?

Yeah pretty much lol
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Old 11-10-2016, 03:58 PM   #264
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A group of minorities and aliens decide to f*ck stuff up for the glorious empire?

Yeah pretty much lol
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Old 11-10-2016, 04:44 PM   #265
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I'm ready for more strong women protagonists. Seems we have plenty lately which is awesome.

- Katniss Everdeen
- Wonder Woman
- Rey
- Hermione Granger
- Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)

All of them are powerful and formidable. Yes Hermione is better than Harry Potter himself. Fact.
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:03 PM   #266
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Since when are Hermione and Waller protagonists? They're supporting characters.
Gotta agree with you though, Hermione>>>Harry.
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:10 PM   #267
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Amanda Waller is a protagonist?
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:18 PM   #268
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I like Jessica Jones.
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:57 PM   #269
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Okay maybe not all necessarily protagonists, but they still kick ass.
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:51 PM   #270
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/marcusjones...K0#.kskQQ8ZRLD


How did it even come to this? I'm just shocked by how stupid people are.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:21 PM   #271
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I doubt they even gonna mention Trump in the movie. As to how Empire relates to Trump in real life, hey as long they're happy. Even Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) hinself retweeted in support.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:40 PM   #272
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Star Wars was originally created to express people overthrowing an oppressive government and freedom and justice for all. George Lucas said the Empire was based on Nazi Germany and other similar governments throughout history.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:45 PM   #273
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Star Wars was originally created to express people overthrowing an oppressive government and freedom and justice for all. George Lucas said the Empire was based on Nazi Germany and other similar governments throughout history.
Uh, no. Star Wars was created as a result of George's interest in mythology, culture, and storytelling as a whole.
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:07 PM   #274
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http://www.history.com/news/the-real...ired-star-wars

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There’s nothing subtle about this historical allusion in “Star Wars.” After all, the elite assault forces fanatically devoted to the Galactic Empire share a common name with the paramilitary fighters who defended the Nazi Party—stormtroopers. The Imperial officers’ uniforms and even Darth Vader’s helmet resemble those worn by German Army members in World War II, and the gradual rise of Palpatine from chancellor to emperor mirrored Adolf Hitler’s similar political ascent from chancellor to dictator. The Empire wasn’t the only side in “Star Wars” that cribbed Nazi imagery, however. The final scene of the original 1977 “Star Wars” in which Princess Leia awards medals to Rebel heroes Luke Skywalker and Han Solo while soldiers stood at attention echoed the massive Nazi rallies in Nuremberg captured in Leni Riefenstahl’s 1935 propaganda film “Triumph of the Will.”

Vietnam War
The guerilla war waged by the Rebel Alliance against the Galactic Empire mirrored the battle between an insurgent force and a global superpower that was playing out in Vietnam as Lucas wrote “Star Wars”. The filmmaker, who was originally set to direct to the Vietnam War film “Apocalypse Now” in the early 1970s before moving on to “Star Wars,” said in an audio commentary on the 2004 re-release of “Return of the Jedi” that the Viet Cong served as his inspiration for the furry forest-dwelling Ewoks, who were able to defeat a vastly superior opponent in spite of their primitive weapons. As William J. Astore writes in “Star Wars and History,” both the Viet Cong and Ewoks were well-served by their “superior knowledge of the local terrain and an ability to blend into that terrain.”


Ancient Rome
The political institutions of “Star Wars”—such as the Senate, Republic and Empire—and the pseudo-Latin names of characters such as chancellors Valorum and Palpatine echo those of ancient Rome. As Tony Keen notes in “Star Wars and History,” the architecture on the planet Naboo resembles that of imperial Rome, and the pod race in “The Phantom Menace” rivals that of the Roman chariot race seen on screen in “Ben-Hur.” The transition from the democratic Galactic Republic to the dictatorial Galactic Empire over the course of the franchise also mirrors that of ancient Rome. “It is plain that the basic structure of Lucas’s history derives from the fall of the Roman Republic and the subsequent establishment of a monarchy,” Keen writes.

Cold War
The tense relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union, with the threat of nuclear annihilation lurking in the background, was hardly history when “Star Wars” first premiered in 1977. The threat to the planet posed by nuclear weapons was encapsulated on screen in the ultimate weapon of mass destruction—the Death Star—which destroyed Princess Leia’s home planet of Alderaan, a blue orb that closely resembled Earth. “Star Wars” itself entered the realm of Cold War history after it was adopted by the media in the 1980s as a nickname for President Ronald Reagan’s proposed Strategic Defense Initiative, which would have used lasers to defend the United States against incoming nuclear missiles.
C'mon, snake, I found this in a 5 second google search.

There's dozens of other articles like this that say the same thing.
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Old 11-12-2016, 02:22 AM   #275
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So Vader is basically Hitler. What about Kylo Ren?
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:31 AM   #276
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I doubt they even gonna mention Trump in the movie.
Wow, are you sure? You're sure they won't mention the President-elect in a galaxy far far away, in a film that's already been shot?
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Old 11-12-2016, 09:13 AM   #277
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C'mon, snake, I found this in a 5 second google search.

There's dozens of other articles like this that say the same thing.
I never said that those weren't influences on Star Wars, but making an analogy to the Nazis was not the sole purpose Lucas made SW, like your previous post suggests.
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Old 11-12-2016, 11:57 AM   #278
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I'm not surprised about the "nazi" thing, considering how much star wars took influence from hakaider, supposedly, and "nazis" had always been a influence in bad guys in the 70's, like with shows like kamen rider
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:25 PM   #279
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Yeah, everyone wanted to emulate the Nazis in their films. They were so perfectly evil that they served as great models for how to portray similar enemies in movies.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:47 PM   #280
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Star Wars came out in the 70's, the Cold War was essentially recent on everyone's minds (and technically continued throughout the 80s to 1991).

In general though its obvious the Emperor, Darth Vader, the empire, and everything else is based on any oppressive government in history where the people (the rebels) try to overthrow it.
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