Kevin Feige Says A Partnership With Fox For X-MEN Or FANTASTIC 4 Is Impossible

retr0pia75 · 11-23-2016, 07:58 PM

Let's face it, the Fantastic Four are done for as a brand. Marvel doesn't care about them, Fox doesn't care about them, and the general public doesn't care about them, so why even bother hoping that they'll have a cultural rebound? And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

*Shark_Blade* · 11-24-2016, 03:26 AM

Sad and idiotic Fox.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-24-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retr0pia75

And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

Plus their movie rocked. Had it sucked, then noone would have cared. Sadly the FF now have 3 crap movies to turn off potential fans of another one.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 11-24-2016, 05:50 PM

Would you guys also say that the FF are a product of their time because I've been getting that from some people.

*ToTheNines* · 11-24-2016, 05:58 PM

No, there's some awesome FF runs from the past 15 ish years. Chiefly the Mark Waid stuff.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 11-24-2016, 09:32 PM

They are Marvel's "First Family" of superheroes for a reason. They are just as interesting and relevant now as they were when created. And the first two movies weren't THAT bad. Sure Doom was a bit off, and Galactus WAY off, but of the four main characters, both Ben and Johnny were spot on, and Reed was fairly close too. Sue was the weakest link in terms of character, but not too much so. Silver Surfer was pretty good too. The tone might not have been as serious as it could have, but that was more a product of the script. It was heavy on humor but given the back and forth nature of Ben and Johnny that was within the scope of the characters so it worked. I've read FF for several years, and I feel that the first two were pretty close to their comic roots save for minor details- they weren't the travesty that the reboot was, that is for certain!

*sdp* · 11-24-2016, 10:04 PM

FF are definitely a product of their time and it's hard to re-invent them but that's not a bad thing and they work best when they're doing what they do best. Somethings just can't be adapted to modern times but that doesn't mean the original charm isn't nice.

I agree that the first two FF films aren't that bad, they're ok and definitely a bit generic but they are not bad from what I remember. My dad watched the reboot recently and really liked it but haven't watched it, making Jonny Storm black didn't get me too excited.

FF is really cool but yeah they're not what people want, they're more like explorers and they have some of the greatest foes in all of the Marvel Universe.

Cryomancer · 11-25-2016, 11:27 AM

FF are a product of their time for a starring role, but that's what period pieces are for. Or at least something with that same "Hell yeah, science, the future!" optimism, which was a real thing like many decades ago. Some of the tied-in villains could work in a modern film, sure. They are some of Marvel's strongest (as characters/presence) villains and that's been sort of a weak point in the films. The F4 themselves could work as supporting cast I'd imagine.

11-24-2016, 09:32 PM	#6
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	They are Marvel's "First Family" of superheroes for a reason. They are just as interesting and relevant now as they were when created. And the first two movies weren't THAT bad. Sure Doom was a bit off, and Galactus WAY off, but of the four main characters, both Ben and Johnny were spot on, and Reed was fairly close too. Sue was the weakest link in terms of character, but not too much so. Silver Surfer was pretty good too. The tone might not have been as serious as it could have, but that was more a product of the script. It was heavy on humor but given the back and forth nature of Ben and Johnny that was within the scope of the characters so it worked. I've read FF for several years, and I feel that the first two were pretty close to their comic roots save for minor details- they weren't the travesty that the reboot was, that is for certain! __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

11-24-2016, 10:04 PM	#7
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	FF are definitely a product of their time and it's hard to re-invent them but that's not a bad thing and they work best when they're doing what they do best. Somethings just can't be adapted to modern times but that doesn't mean the original charm isn't nice. I agree that the first two FF films aren't that bad, they're ok and definitely a bit generic but they are not bad from what I remember. My dad watched the reboot recently and really liked it but haven't watched it, making Jonny Storm black didn't get me too excited. FF is really cool but yeah they're not what people want, they're more like explorers and they have some of the greatest foes in all of the Marvel Universe. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-25-2016, 11:27 AM	#8
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	FF are a product of their time for a starring role, but that's what period pieces are for. Or at least something with that same "Hell yeah, science, the future!" optimism, which was a real thing like many decades ago. Some of the tied-in villains could work in a modern film, sure. They are some of Marvel's strongest (as characters/presence) villains and that's been sort of a weak point in the films. The F4 themselves could work as supporting cast I'd imagine. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

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11-23-2016, 07:58 PM	#1
retr0pia75 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 128	Let's face it, the Fantastic Four are done for as a brand. Marvel doesn't care about them, Fox doesn't care about them, and the general public doesn't care about them, so why even bother hoping that they'll have a cultural rebound? And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

11-24-2016, 03:26 AM	#2
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Sad and idiotic Fox.

11-24-2016, 05:50 PM	#4
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	Would you guys also say that the FF are a product of their time because I've been getting that from some people.

11-24-2016, 05:58 PM	#5
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,375	No, there's some awesome FF runs from the past 15 ish years. Chiefly the Mark Waid stuff.