Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 26: Owari

*ToTheNines* · 02-26-2017, 11:34 AM

Ciro posted this today.

Maybe the DVD will let them use this version?

*IndigoErth* · 02-26-2017, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Ciro posted this today.

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/w...226-123013.png

Maybe the DVD will let them use this version?

Niiiice.... So my "off with his head" wish last week was intended to come true.

No wonder it seemed less brutal compared to Splinter's death.

I dunno, they could have at least shown the sword slice through (in a very quick "blink and you'll miss it" way) if not the separation.

Redworld96 · 02-26-2017, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Ciro posted this today.

http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/w...226-123013.png

Maybe the DVD will let them use this version?

We can see there was a censure between Ciro's picture and the scene aired on Nick:

*ToTheNines* · 02-26-2017, 12:13 PM

The aired version at least allowed more blood on Leo's sword than Ciro's take originally had.

*oldmanwinters* · 02-26-2017, 12:30 PM

I'll confess I was a little let down on the classic beheading sequence. I understand the censorship issue, but it was still more confusing than it needed to be. Leo holds up Shredder's... face?... helmet? I thought the mutagen just molded that face plate to his bones or something? So did Leo have time to clean and gut the mask after winning? I still think the 4Kids Season 1 did the Mirage homage better, but I give Nick credit as this probably was a human death as opposed to a robot shell losing its head.

Also, maybe I missed it, but I didn't follow that Raph and Mikey both fell off the building. I just thought they were knocked out somewhere on the roof until they were suddenly at ground level.

Now I'm really curious as to the limits of Retro-Mutagen. When Kirby O'Neil was a mutant bat, Donatello cooked up a decent amount of Retro-Ooze, but all Kirby needed was a little taste on the tongue to fully restore his humanity. Super Shredder gets hit in the heart with a full bottle and no effect? Maybe it was Baxter's ingenuity at work?

Speaking of Baxter, who knew he had the capacity to make Retro-Mutagen the whole time? Has he ever hinted that he knew how to reverse mutations? You would think Shredder would have tried to utilize that against the Turtles. Ah, vengeance clouds the judgment, I guess.

The opening scene was so well done with the time lapse over the grave as the various folks gradually leave until the turtles alone remained. I was surprised that neither the Mutanimals nor Shinigami offered to help with the final battle. I guess they had already had their pride busted.

*CyberCubed* · 02-26-2017, 12:36 PM

Yeah Super Shredder was given extra mutagen formula and injections by Baxter in the last few episodes, it obviously made him immune to retro mutagen.

*MrTMNT2012* · 02-26-2017, 12:50 PM

It's been a long ride from that

to this.

Aaronardo · 02-26-2017, 12:53 PM

"I've had enough of you, you metal freak!"

God I loved Raph in this episode.

I figured the hype would die down after a couple hours, but no, I've been giddy ever since I saw this episode. I don't blame myself though, this was a damn good one, just like last week. I always got a kick out of the iconic Leo/Shredder shot, and I like that Ciro's representation of it got to shine. Casey's mask is, with lack of a better word, bada$$. The only thing I was a little iffy on was, like others have mentioned, Baxter's desire to remain a fly. I thought that was a strange choice for his character, but this will most likely lead to an interesting plot in Season 5, so it really is more of a minor gripe.

I can not wait to see what this show does next. I haven't felt this excited about this show in a long time, and I'm really happy about it. Bring on Season 5!

*ToTheNines* · 02-26-2017, 12:59 PM

@winters While his armor mutated with him and became a fixed part of his person, the mask wasn't necessarily grafted to his skin. So his head just fell out when Leo picked up the helmet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yeah Super Shredder was given extra mutagen formula and injections by Baxter in the last few episodes, it obviously made him immune to retro mutagen.

I like to believe that Don's retromutagen weakened him enough to allow Leo the death blow.

View Poll Results: Owari
Splinter's dead but it's still not the end of him.	16	27.12%
The Turtles are going through their teenage goth phase.	6	10.17%
Fishface being dirty when he said "I'll give you bass to mouth".	14	23.73%
So is Baxter going to become a cyborg next season.	4	6.78%
So who's ready for season 5.	19	32.20%
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02-26-2017, 12:30 PM	#5
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,508	I'll confess I was a little let down on the classic beheading sequence. I understand the censorship issue, but it was still more confusing than it needed to be. Leo holds up Shredder's... face?... helmet? I thought the mutagen just molded that face plate to his bones or something? So did Leo have time to clean and gut the mask after winning? I still think the 4Kids Season 1 did the Mirage homage better, but I give Nick credit as this probably was a human death as opposed to a robot shell losing its head. Also, maybe I missed it, but I didn't follow that Raph and Mikey both fell off the building. I just thought they were knocked out somewhere on the roof until they were suddenly at ground level. Now I'm really curious as to the limits of Retro-Mutagen. When Kirby O'Neil was a mutant bat, Donatello cooked up a decent amount of Retro-Ooze, but all Kirby needed was a little taste on the tongue to fully restore his humanity. Super Shredder gets hit in the heart with a full bottle and no effect? Maybe it was Baxter's ingenuity at work? Speaking of Baxter, who knew he had the capacity to make Retro-Mutagen the whole time? Has he ever hinted that he knew how to reverse mutations? You would think Shredder would have tried to utilize that against the Turtles. Ah, vengeance clouds the judgment, I guess. The opening scene was so well done with the time lapse over the grave as the various folks gradually leave until the turtles alone remained. I was surprised that neither the Mutanimals nor Shinigami offered to help with the final battle. I guess they had already had their pride busted. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

02-26-2017, 12:53 PM	#8
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,043	"I've had enough of you, you metal freak!" God I loved Raph in this episode. I figured the hype would die down after a couple hours, but no, I've been giddy ever since I saw this episode. I don't blame myself though, this was a damn good one, just like last week. I always got a kick out of the iconic Leo/Shredder shot, and I like that Ciro's representation of it got to shine. Casey's mask is, with lack of a better word, bada$$. The only thing I was a little iffy on was, like others have mentioned, Baxter's desire to remain a fly. I thought that was a strange choice for his character, but this will most likely lead to an interesting plot in Season 5, so it really is more of a minor gripe. I can not wait to see what this show does next. I haven't felt this excited about this show in a long time, and I'm really happy about it. Bring on Season 5! Last edited by Aaronardo; 02-26-2017 at 01:11 PM.

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02-26-2017, 11:34 AM	#1
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,375	Ciro posted this today. Maybe the DVD will let them use this version?

02-26-2017, 12:13 PM	#4
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,375	The aired version at least allowed more blood on Leo's sword than Ciro's take originally had.

02-26-2017, 12:36 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,888	Yeah Super Shredder was given extra mutagen formula and injections by Baxter in the last few episodes, it obviously made him immune to retro mutagen.