Beavis and Butt-head possibily returning to the airwaves

[Storm Eagle]

Some DVD and Blu-ray news.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Bea...Volume-4/16232

[BubblyShell22]

Wow. That's pretty cool.

[ZariusTwo]

And they're back again, two seasons on Comedy Central

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...EQ9051LE5nkhSQ

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

And they're back again, two seasons on Comedy Central

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...EQ9051LE5nkhSQ

Whoa, say what now? Can these two even exist in 2020?

[drgon78]

If South Park can still exist then I am sure they can.

[Coola Yagami]

Looking back, I think they can get away with it cause they've always been portrayed as losers , and never glorified, as in, you're an idiot if you imitate them and not cool.

Let's hope we avoid any wokeness though I wouldn't be surprised if some episodes call them toxic white males. I mean... They kinda are, but keep your SJW buzzwords out of my entertainment, thank you very much.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Looking back, I think they can get away with it cause they've always been portrayed as losers , and never glorified, as in, you're an idiot if you imitate them and not cool.

Let's hope we avoid any wokeness though I wouldn't be surprised if some episodes call them toxic white males. I mean... They kinda are, but keep your SJW buzzwords out of my entertainment, thank you very much.

Lol while that could be exhausting, it does have potential to be funny at the same time. The idea of someone calling them toxic or them being misinterpreted as SJW leaders or what have you.

I've always loved the characters. They somehow manage to remain charming despite how lame they are.

[Leo656]

We'll see.

On one hand, most of the modern "revivals" of once-popular things have been absolute trash in recent years.

On another hand, despite their name, "Comedy Central" ain't funny. They pay Trevor Noah and Samantha Bee to make extremely wrong-headed points alongside a laugh track so people can think they're actually right, so the chances of this thing being a full-blown "Liberals Taking The Piss Out Of Things That Are 'Problematic'" type of show are absolutely through the roof. A network run by hardcore liberals ain't gonna let Beavis and Butt-Head BE Beavis and Butt-Head. There ain't no way. Odds are, they're bringing it back for the sole purpose of rubbing the audience's face in "Here's why you were an asshole for ever liking this", and I'm not down for that. Yeah, they let Trey and Matt get away with murder BUT if not for South Park Comedy Central wouldn't even still exist, they owe those guys everything and that's the only reason they're allowed to get away with so much. I don't know if they'll be so accommodating to Mike Judge.

This was another one of those things I liked so much that I'd rather it be left alone than brought back and destroyed. The last revival was alright but underwhelming. I was happy about it and I liked it but I was hoping for a lot more; as is, it was only barely memorable. I often forget that it even happened, it really did leave very little impact. Could be it's just a different time.

We'll see how much they let Judge get away with. That's what it'll really come down to and the only thing that gives me hope. Judge wouldn't willingly go along with anything that would screw that brand up. So if he's on board, then I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. But I don't see it as a good fit.

Cartoon Network would have been also a bad fit, but better. Their Futurama revival had more in common with Beavis and Butt-Head than "Futurama", anyway, so I think the people at that network may have had a better idea what to do with the property. But we'll see. I'd love for nothing better than a really awesome B&B revival.

But in 2020? On a super-liberal network like Comedy Central, where half of their shows are people telling you why you need to be offended by everything? That's such a bizarre contrast and so much can go wrong.

One could argue that we need Beavis and Butt-Head more than ever in the current "snowflake" culture... but by the same token, it could get pulled inside of three episodes thanks to the usual Moral Outrage Crusaders, who wield a lot more power now than they did in 1993.

Fingers crossed. Every single episode of the original series would get everyone who made it blackballed from the industry nowadays, which is why we NEED stuff like this. I just hope it's not creatively handcuffed too tightly.

[Cure]

Samantha Bee is on TBS, not Comedy Central.
Futurama was revived on Comedy Central, not Cartoon Network.

[Leo656]

I should'a put more than a Google into the Futurama thing, I was 50/50 on that one.

Bee does air on Comedy Central, though, I swear, that's the very first thing that came up when I Googled her, not TBS. So forgive me for that one, I put her name in and "Full Frontal on Comedy Central" was the very first result.

Christ, I swear that when I go from memory everything is fine, but when I fact-check things I get bad intel.

[Wildcat]

Awesome. Knew theyd eventually return. The last revival was good but was too brief. Very happy theyre getting a proper comeback.

Nobody has to worry about it being toned down, woke or anything. Come on. Everything is supposedly too PC? Well making everything else out to have an agenda of some kind is equally dumb.

I dont watch everything on CC just South Park and Tosh.0. (Though I missed the latest season of Tosh apparently because I didnt know new episodes were airing). I also watch their celebrity roasts. Those things are enough to know CC will let them do pretty much whatever they want.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Nobody has to worry about it being toned down, woke or anything. Come on. Everything is supposedly too PC? Well making everything else out to have an agenda of some kind is equally dumb.

Simply following a protocol of "Observe and Report" is never "dumb". If you don't see that everything DOES have a PC/SJW influence crammed into it nowadays then you don't pay any attention at all, and that's as nice as I can be about it.

I watch their roasts, too. They're funny. Awfully "convenient", though, how they give the longest "leash" to the more liberal-minded. Those people, yes, get to say pretty much whatever they want. Otherwise, "You can't say ____, you'll offend people." Again, I just Observe and Report.

Trey and Matt have been speaking openly for years about how awful it is to work for Comedy Central, what with everything being run by hyper-sensitive liberals who try and censor their work, which is why they've been openly courting Netflix and used the last few seasons of South Part to utterly shred the ultra-liberal "PC Culture"; they're giving the finger to the network, because that's who runs the network. "PC Principal", "Strong Woman", "PC Babies", all of it... they were spoofing the American culture at large, sure, absolutely, BUT, if you ask them they'll tell you, they're also making fun of their bosses. They get away with it, as I said, because Comedy Central owes them their very existence as a network; there's little to no promise that anyone else will get the same long leash that they have. AND they still hate working there and wanna leave, because the network keeps yanking on their leash even though by now they should have total creative freedom to do whatever they want, seeing as how they've earned it.

So, again, Observe and Report. The guys who made the network what it is, who created its most successful show ever, can't wait to get out of their contracts because the network treats them poorly and tries to censor them so they don't get angry phone calls. 20+ years of work, and they're still getting jerked around and can't do what they want to do. If they can't, Judge can't either.

We'll see. MIGHT be good and I really hope so. I love Beavis and Butt-Head. But once again, you have a show that's all about offending people in as many ways as possible, with two protagonists who go on and on about "grabbing girls' thingies", in a time when even JOKING about that kinda thing is "assault", on a network where people like Trevor Noah tell you WHY even making those jokes is "assault" and you're a terrible person if you laugh. It's just... well, the term "strange bedfellows" definitely applies.

In doing more research about it, it also feels like CC didn't even want this show, but they caved to pressure on it. They announced a "Daria" spin-off that nobody wanted, first... THEN, way way later on, after a ton of people said "We don't care about that, we'd rather have more Beavis and Butt-Head", they said "Okay, we'll do that, too." But they're still doing the unnecessary Daria spin-off and are mostly talking about B&B as a way to do MORE spin-offs, which makes me question their commitment to... y'know... Beavis and Butt-Head. They had to have their arm twisted to agree to it, and rather than talk about how great the show is gonna be, all they wanna talk about is spin-offs? Kinda getting ahead of ourselves here, ain't we?

I just question the network's commitment and their priorities. This feels like something they're only doing begrudgingly, and once more, the network itself, based on how they operate, simply doesn't feel like a great fit the more you really think about it.

Really, really, really great if I'm wrong. We really need Beavis and Butt-Head Right Now more than probably ever. BUT, as always, when it comes to any trepidation, it's just Observe and Report. I'm right way more often than the weatherman, but that guy gets a million dollars a year to be wrong. The one thing we have in common is, using Past Fact to predict Future Probability. Which is never, ever "dumb". It's merely called "forecasting".

[Wildcat]

OK I dont follow Matt and Trey themselves so I dont know how they feel about working at CC and the only info on this Ive seen is this announcement. Can you link or point me to what you did read indicating CC did not really want to do it?

As for the idea everything has a PC/SJW angle behind it nowadays...Im sorry I just do not believe that.

Some things do. Im not gonna lie. I definitely see it in some stuff. Sure sometimes it snowballs and becomes a thing but in general I find it harmless enough. I know it can seem silly or a bit forced but if it makes people feel a little better its fine. To me anyway.

It might seem I do not understand the argument but I do. My point is people are doing it to all things. Its just as bad as those taking offense at everything. Its the same difference imo. Its just done from the opposite side.

How hard is it to believe some shows or movies are just that? Another show or movie that people wanted to do or bring back without some elaborate agenda or subliminal message behind it? People need to calm down.

[Voltron]

What the hell are you talking about?

What have Matt and Trey not been allowed to do on their show? They aren't making fun of CC higher ups. They're making fun of the audience.

The only time I can think of when Comedy Central full-on censored them was on the Muhammad episode, and that was to spare them the death threats and possible terrorist attacks.

Just to drive home the point, they've showed:
1. Episodes deliberately mocking the handicapped.
2. Full blown, hardcore sex scenes.
3. White characters saying the "n" word.
4. Overtly racial stereotypes of Japanese, Chinese, and Middle Eastern people.
5. A frat running train on a cop in drag.
6. Several cancer jokes.
7. An elementary school girl getting breast implants.
8. Full frontal nudity of an elementary school aged boy. Several times.
9. All forms of defecation.
10. A gay man transitioning to a female only to find out that "she" really likes women, becoming a lesbian, then transitioning back to a man. This was the center of an episode where a penis was genetically harvested from a mouse. This was all shown, mind you. Nothing was censored.

I doubt any other network would let that play out. I don't know what you want from Comedy Central, but this doesn't seem like SJWs at the helm.

Remember that companies and corporations have the right to control what they produce. This isn't solely a left-wing, SJW issue either. There are plenty of instances of right wing entities being upset by their employees. Howard Stern had a big falling out with Clear Channel, a company Stern accused of being run by Christian Evangelicals.

This isn't to say there isn't any credibility in the argument that SJW culture has influenced media. It has to some degree. The thing to remember is that these corporations don't care about PC anything beyond making a buck. If tomorrow it was popular to be as offensive and politically incorrect as possible, businesses would follow suit in the hopes of increasing revenue.

[Leo656]

Brotherrrr I'm definitely not gonna go hunting for every interview I've watched or read where they say that they hate working there and have to fight with The Suits about every little thing and that it's a miracle they get away with anything to the degree that they do. For one thing, I've been up all night trying to figure out how the hell Instagram works, and for another, "It's always 4:20 someplace" so I am really, really not in the mood or at the capacity to even try and play search engine or whatever. But I wouldn't lie to you. They said it and I seen it. Believe it or don't, I really don't care all that much.

Yes, they get away with murder, and ONLY because they built the entire network. Most cable systems didn't carry Comedy Central before South Park, and aside from The Daily Show, South Park is the only reason anyone ever has cared or cares now about the channel. They have clout. The network owes them. But they still have to fight to put out what they do. They get their way, yes. Because they have clout, and ONLY for that reason. The Guys Upstairs still try and screw with them constantly for "going too far". I didn't make it up.

It's entirely possible that Mike Judge has "clout" as well, but I doubt he has as much as Trey and Matt do. If THEY get a hard time from the network - and they do, whether you take what I'm saying at face value or not - then an "outsider" will also get a hard time from the network if they're also pushing similar content. That only stands to reason. It's just plain common sense.

I don't see why any of this - which is merely speculative forecasting, by the way - is so hard to figure out. To me, it's just a little strange that a network, whose second most popular show is all about telling people what they should and shouldn't be offended and outraged by, would also bring on a show featuring two characters who are borderline sexual predators with much of their humor coming from that premise. Their one show has a guy saying, all the time, "People who joke about being sexual predators ARE sexual predators, joking about sexual assault IS sexual assault, and if you laugh at it then you're a terrible person"... and meanwhile, you have a cartoon show on the same channel where the two main characters spend most of their time trying to molest women and doing very little else. You don't see how that might make this network, specifically, look kind of two-faced, to some people at home who are easily outraged? You don't see how some of that network's audience might end up complaining about that, or how the network in turn might be willing to abandon the show at the first angry phone calls that come in? People who watch The Daily Show have spent years being conditioned that basically every single thing that Beavis and Butt-Head joke about are things you should be put in jail just for even saying out loud. Sure, South Park falls under that as well, but again... South Park BUILT the network, otherwise they wouldn't have a long leash at all. Can B&B get the same "hands-off" treatment? Boy, I sure hope so!

It just makes me question how strongly they might be willing to really get behind it. That's all. Trey and Matt built the network, they're untouchable, but even they have to fight to do the show their way most of the time. Mike Judge isn't Trey and Matt, he didn't build the network, and they don't owe him anything. This is basically Them doing Him a favor, NOT the other way around. So while I'd love it and would HOPE that they leave him alone to do his thing, I don't know if they will. But I do sincerely hope so.

I'm not saying "This is what WILL happen", I'm saying "This is what very well CAN happen given the climate at that specific network and the values of the people who run it." It's a liberal-slanted network, they're not shy about it being a liberal-slanted network, in fact they openly promote themselves that way, and liberals have been trying to get Beavis and Butt-Head taken off the air for as long as it's been in existence. Comedy Central is generally nothing more than MSNBC with a laugh track once you leave out South Park. So please forgive me for not thinking they're just going to automatically do a 180 now and embrace something like Beavis and Butt-Head without trying to change it into something they'd prefer that it be. I HAVE to ask these questions. They very well might try and f*ck with it. We'll just have to wait and see and hope that they don't.

Could be great! I hope so. But at the time of peak Outrage Culture, on a network that openly and loudly advocates throwing people in jail or getting their careers taken away for bad jokes or Twitter misfires? Hmm. It's really not so very simple.

We. Shall. See.

The ONE big thing that gives me a ton of hope, is that Mike has always said he'd never bring it back unless it could still be great and he could still do it His Way. He's never wavered from his principles on anything, on any project he's ever done. And he doesn't just do stuff for a paycheck. So if he's willing to bring it back, and on that channel, then that means HE has faith in it. So good. Very, very good. I just hope that faith is rewarded, that's all. I hope they do well, and I hope that the network doesn't either cancel it or screw with it the first time they get phone calls about it.

[Storm Eagle]

I'll check these new ones out, even though I know Beavis' voice will sound a little off like in the last version.

[Leo656]

Did it? I didn't notice. Guess I'm due for a re-watch!

I liked the "revival" season but it felt... different. I can't even really describe it, it just... wasn't entirely the same. Not that it ever could be, but... I don't know. The episodes themselves weren't even as memorable. They were GOOD, don't get me wrong, just... they didn't stick with you the same way as some of the original stuff did.

But hey, it's long overdue for me to dust 'em off and fire 'em up. Maybe I'll refresh my memory a bit.

[drgon78]

I have always liked the movie more then the TV series.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by drgon78

I have always liked the movie more then the TV series.

The movie is pretty funny. "Uh...I think I just figured something out....this sucks."

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

The movie is pretty funny. "Uh...I think I just figured something out....this sucks."

Give them a cavity search, don't stop 'till you reach the back of his teeth!