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~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2020, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I guess that's fair. Though by the same stroke, just about every TMNT project besides TMNT 2012 to some extent "DESTROYS" the TMNT in my eyes, over and over again. Rogen and company make me laugh... if nothing else, maybe this is another project that "DESTROYS" the TMNT for me, but at least I can be reasonably sure I'll enjoy a few laughs while we're at it.

Though who knows.

I simply cannot fathom how a person can openly disdain marijuana yet still find anything of value in Seth Rogen. The math on that doesn't add up at all.

I smoke more than most people and I can't STAND that guy. But then again, I don't find most "comedies" to be funny, I generally find them too contrived and trying too hard. I know, nothing about me makes any sense.

But I think even Seth Rogen would be shocked to know that he has at least one big fan who doesn't smoke. I don't think he'd be able to make sense of it, either.

*IMJ* · 06-30-2020, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I simply cannot fathom how a person can openly disdain marijuana yet still find anything of value in Seth Rogen

Some people say I sound like Seth Rogan. I hate it.

But I'm not so far gone that I won't admit that there might be a -hint- -hint- hint of truth in it.

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2020, 11:28 PM

I know what you mean.

Some people tell me I resemble Shawn Michaels and then I have to dig another shallow grave. Maybe they're right but I'll be damned if I'm gonna take such slander lying down because I haaaaaate that guy.

*IndigoErth* · 07-03-2020, 12:01 PM

I guess we haven't heard anything about a PD film because they're more focused on "Songbird," a coronavirus pandemic film (tasteless and out of ideas?) that SAG now had to issue a "do not work" order on because they wanted to frigging make it now.

As if nearly everyone who is or will be emotionally exhausted over this whole thing (let alone the families who have suffered deaths from it) would even be interested in that. Why to focus on a completely transparent attempt to cash in on the pandemic.

So now that's forced to be on hold, maybe they can look at other things and at least let us know officially if the reboot we last heard about two years ago is still on the table or can we stop wondering and waiting to find out?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-03-2020, 12:50 PM

They're not going to announce that it's cancelled. That's typically not how things operate. For example, WB never formally said that a sequel to "Superman Returns" wasn't happening... and they still technically never said that it's not happening... but it's 15 years and a reboot later. When "Man of Steel" was announced, THAT was the announcement that it was safe to not keep holding one's breath for a SR sequel.

Studios don't like to make formal announcements of cancelled projects because it's bad business. It reeks of failure and makes people feel like the studio has no direction. They don't want to present themselves as weak or indecisive. It's just not wise business when the entire crux of marketing is making your audience think you don't make big mistakes.

Instead, one project gets quietly overtaken by another project, and the first project just kind of fades away. That's much more typical.

The key buzzwords for the CGI movie are, "next-level reinvention of the property". In other words... a reboot. The next PD movie - which never actually existed except as Hopeful Words - was also going to be a reboot. They're not going to do two reboots at once, it's not happening. Whatever was talked about as the next PD project is dead, whether they make a big formal announcement or not, and the CGI movie is going to be the one they do Instead Of That, not in addition to that.

There most likely isn't going to be another live-action TMNT movie for a long time. There's absolutely zero proof that they can earn back twice what it would cost, which is the bare minimum they'd accept. In a few years that might change, but right now the brand is very dormant. At the end of the day, the prospect of a live-action movie has every bit as much to do with whether or not the toys would sell, and both the movie toys AND the Rise toys didn't move the needle at all, with the movie toys doing much worse. If they don't think they can sell toys, they won't make the movie. And they're very sure they can't sell toys at retail, right now.

Look at it like this: To do a live action movie, they HAVE to spend at least $100 million. Afterwards, they need to make about $300 million or the whole thing goes back in the freezer. Right now, ANY TMNT movie would need a rocket up its ass to reach $300 million, and they know that. They lost money on the last movie, and they lost big on Rise; they're not going to take any chances until they know FOR SURE that there's profit to be made.

Thus, a nice, "safe" little CGI movie that they can make for cheap and almost certainly break even on. If they turn a profit - say, three or four times the budget - then we might get a live action reboot afterwards within the next three years or so. But not otherwise. The CGI movie is being made to keep the brand name out there and see if the winds are becoming more favorable anytime soon for a "real" movie. They know that right now, a "real" movie would die a death and they're not gonna put up another $200 mil after the last disaster, not unless they can make four or five hundred million back, and they can't, there's no way Right Now with how damaged the property is. They're stupid, but not THAT stupid. They gotta wait a little while for the stink to go away, first.

So yeah, no live action movie anytime soon. Not unless the CGI one does REALLY well, and even factoring that in... 2025, at the earliest. Just being realistic. But that's absolutely going to be the case.

*IndigoErth* · 07-06-2020, 12:23 PM

Mote total BS I'm sure? Sure sounds like it. But wanted to post because... I dunno, is it legal to toss these people off a cliff? False rumors are so stupid and pointless.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...urtles-reboot/

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-06-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Mote total BS I'm sure? Sure sounds like it. But wanted to post because... I dunno, is it legal to toss these people off a cliff? False rumors are so stupid and pointless.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...urtles-reboot/

I sincerely hope no one clicks this link. These are the biggest clickbaiters I've ever come across. Any rumor they share is 100% false unless it's being shared elsewhere first and they picked up on it.

I mean, do as you please, of course. But the rumor is false.

*CyberCubed* · 07-09-2020, 09:30 AM

I'm pretty sure this movie is dead. I don't see Platinum Dunes making a reboot.

PizzaPower1985 · 07-09-2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm pretty sure this movie is dead. I don't see Platinum Dunes making a reboot.

Are we completely sure nothing is happening with this? Is the Rogen project the only thing still happening or is that dead too?

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 07-09-2020, 11:22 AM

If Krang is the villain, there's a strong chance I won't see the movie

Call it petty, but it is what it is

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-09-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower1985

Are we completely sure nothing is happening with this? Is the Rogen project the only thing still happening or is that dead too?

There is nothing official, it's just the best guess going by consensus.

*Galactus* · 07-09-2020, 01:43 PM

Seems like ********.

We're making a new darker take on the franchise based on the original comics so the villain we'll be using is...Krang?!?

PizzaPower1985 · 07-09-2020, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Seems like ********.

We're making a new darker take on the franchise based on the original comics so the villain we'll be using is...Krang?!?

Well, if it is true, who says Krang can't be taken into a darker direction... I certainly found him menacing in the IDW comics. I know Headbands don't like Krang but who's to say Krang couldn't be redone with a different take?

Cyndaquilfan123 · 07-09-2020, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower1985

Well, if it is true, who says Krang can't be taken into a darker direction... I certainly found him menacing in the IDW comics. I know Headbands don't like Krang but who's to say Krang couldn't be redone with a different take?

I'd love to see the 2012 take on Krang by having them be an whole alien species.

*IndigoErth* · 07-09-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Seems like ********.

We're making a new darker take on the franchise based on the original comics so the villain we'll be using is...Krang?!?

Hmm... Well I suppose if they rethought the android body concept and instead did the old "alien inhabits a person's body and bursts out of their chest (or gut in this case)" thing and he then just take control of said human...

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-09-2020, 03:11 PM

Since we have a new movie in the works and Nickeledon parted with Platinum Dunes and Michael Bay should we abandon this thread or have it merged with the one with Seth Rogen overseeing a new film?

PizzaPower1985 · 07-09-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Hmm... Well I suppose if they rethought the android body concept and instead did the old "alien inhabits a person's body and bursts out of their chest (or gut in this case)" thing and he then just take control of said human...

They were implicitly doing something like this with Utroms and Leatherhead when last I read the IDW comic.

*Galactus* · 07-09-2020, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower1985

Well, if it is true, who says Krang can't be taken into a darker direction... I certainly found him menacing in the IDW comics. I know Headbands don't like Krang but who's to say Krang couldn't be redone with a different take?

It's more a case that they seem to think Krang is a comic character.

Sure, they could make a darker version of Krang and even do what the 2012 show did by making them a whole species of evil Utroms. Still I kinda feel if you're going dark it's best to go grounded at least with the first movie.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-09-2020, 03:50 PM

Right. You wouldn't need a fresh story if you actually have a fresh take on said story. I bet an audience would sit through the origin again if it actually has some pizzazz.

PizzaPower1985 · 07-09-2020, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Right. You wouldn't need a fresh story if you actually have a fresh take on said story. I bet an audience would sit through the origin again if it actually has some pizzazz.

OMG. LoL. I just read that as:

"I bet an audience would sit through the origin again if it actually has some pizzas."

Like yeah, pizzas make everything better. Even $hitty movies! LOL.

07-03-2020, 12:50 PM	#745
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	They're not going to announce that it's cancelled. That's typically not how things operate. For example, WB never formally said that a sequel to "Superman Returns" wasn't happening... and they still technically never said that it's not happening... but it's 15 years and a reboot later. When "Man of Steel" was announced, THAT was the announcement that it was safe to not keep holding one's breath for a SR sequel. Studios don't like to make formal announcements of cancelled projects because it's bad business. It reeks of failure and makes people feel like the studio has no direction. They don't want to present themselves as weak or indecisive. It's just not wise business when the entire crux of marketing is making your audience think you don't make big mistakes. Instead, one project gets quietly overtaken by another project, and the first project just kind of fades away. That's much more typical. The key buzzwords for the CGI movie are, "next-level reinvention of the property". In other words... a reboot. The next PD movie - which never actually existed except as Hopeful Words - was also going to be a reboot. They're not going to do two reboots at once, it's not happening. Whatever was talked about as the next PD project is dead, whether they make a big formal announcement or not, and the CGI movie is going to be the one they do Instead Of That, not in addition to that. There most likely isn't going to be another live-action TMNT movie for a long time. There's absolutely zero proof that they can earn back twice what it would cost, which is the bare minimum they'd accept. In a few years that might change, but right now the brand is very dormant. At the end of the day, the prospect of a live-action movie has every bit as much to do with whether or not the toys would sell, and both the movie toys AND the Rise toys didn't move the needle at all, with the movie toys doing much worse. If they don't think they can sell toys, they won't make the movie. And they're very sure they can't sell toys at retail, right now. Look at it like this: To do a live action movie, they HAVE to spend at least $100 million. Afterwards, they need to make about $300 million or the whole thing goes back in the freezer. Right now, ANY TMNT movie would need a rocket up its ass to reach $300 million, and they know that. They lost money on the last movie, and they lost big on Rise; they're not going to take any chances until they know FOR SURE that there's profit to be made. Thus, a nice, "safe" little CGI movie that they can make for cheap and almost certainly break even on. If they turn a profit - say, three or four times the budget - then we might get a live action reboot afterwards within the next three years or so. But not otherwise. The CGI movie is being made to keep the brand name out there and see if the winds are becoming more favorable anytime soon for a "real" movie. They know that right now, a "real" movie would die a death and they're not gonna put up another $200 mil after the last disaster, not unless they can make four or five hundred million back, and they can't, there's no way Right Now with how damaged the property is. They're stupid, but not THAT stupid. They gotta wait a little while for the stink to go away, first. So yeah, no live action movie anytime soon. Not unless the CGI one does REALLY well, and even factoring that in... 2025, at the earliest. Just being realistic. But that's absolutely going to be the case. Last edited by Leo656; 07-03-2020 at 12:59 PM.

07-09-2020, 11:22 AM	#750
Whatswiththeheadbands? The Weed of Crime Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Shadow's Sanctum Posts: 3,007	If Krang is the villain, there's a strong chance I won't see the movie Call it petty, but it is what it is __________________ Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of Men? The Shadow knows...

07-09-2020, 03:11 PM	#756
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,188	Since we have a new movie in the works and Nickeledon parted with Platinum Dunes and Michael Bay should we abandon this thread or have it merged with the one with Seth Rogen overseeing a new film? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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06-30-2020, 11:28 PM	#743
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I know what you mean. Some people tell me I resemble Shawn Michaels and then I have to dig another shallow grave. Maybe they're right but I'll be damned if I'm gonna take such slander lying down because I haaaaaate that guy.

07-03-2020, 12:01 PM	#744
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	I guess we haven't heard anything about a PD film because they're more focused on "Songbird," a coronavirus pandemic film (tasteless and out of ideas?) that SAG now had to issue a "do not work" order on because they wanted to frigging make it now. As if nearly everyone who is or will be emotionally exhausted over this whole thing (let alone the families who have suffered deaths from it) would even be interested in that. Why to focus on a completely transparent attempt to cash in on the pandemic. So now that's forced to be on hold, maybe they can look at other things and at least let us know officially if the reboot we last heard about two years ago is still on the table or can we stop wondering and waiting to find out?

07-06-2020, 12:23 PM	#746
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Mote total BS I'm sure? Sure sounds like it. But wanted to post because... I dunno, is it legal to toss these people off a cliff? False rumors are so stupid and pointless. https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...urtles-reboot/

07-09-2020, 09:30 AM	#748
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,897	I'm pretty sure this movie is dead. I don't see Platinum Dunes making a reboot.

07-09-2020, 01:43 PM	#752
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	Seems like ********. We're making a new darker take on the franchise based on the original comics so the villain we'll be using is...Krang?!?

07-09-2020, 03:50 PM	#759
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Right. You wouldn't need a fresh story if you actually have a fresh take on said story. I bet an audience would sit through the origin again if it actually has some pizzazz.