James Franco in trouble, but now Seth Rogen, too

[FrederikWolferson]

Here is the thing- it's not that they have different views on things its that they see different thing. They live in a whole different reality.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by FrederikWolferson

Here is the thing- it's not that they have different views on things its that they see different thing. They live in a whole different reality.

Ya I'd say that there is a cross section of that population where your description there is fundamentally true. Fundamentally true by both the selfish-psychology as well as sociological-phenomena levels. It's the selfish-psychology levels that I regularly take issue with. But most of those people wouldn't understand even that. There is a point where you draw a line of understanding and simply get into a well of "these are terrible people". There's a point where the justification of behavior finally crosses the line into "you're too far gone, you're too lost in your own maze of nonsense, it's purely you".

[Leo656]

People shouldn't cancel Seth Rogen because James Franco might be a womanizer, sexual harasser, whatever the accusation is.

People should cancel Seth Rogen because Seth Rogen isn't funny.

[Andrew NDB]

Rogen's politics are horrible (and also he says gems like "saying 'left' and 'right' like they are two arms of a whole isn't correct, the 'right' are actively killing people!" and how he's tried to convert some nameless fellow actors unsuccessfully and how disappointed he is in them) but I do enjoy almost everything he's done. "The Interview," "This is the End"... to me, these were hysterical.

[Leo656]

Honestly didn't see those. I reserve the right to change my opinion at a later date if I see them and they Wow me.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Honestly didn't see those. I reserve the right to change my opinion at a later date if I see them and they Wow me.

They're not "stoner comedies" like maybe his "The Pineapple Express" and are extremely politically incorrect. There is actually a scene where they debate raping Emma Watson, in front of Emma Watson, for example. And I can pop in "The Interview" almost anytime and laugh out loud.

I was honestly surprised to hear his politics, and how hard he leaned that way. But by the same token hearing Mel Gibson go apesh** on his wife doesn't make me like Lethal Weapon any less, it doesn't make me dislike his stuff either.

[Leo656]

I actually did come across the Emma Watson clip at one point, once upon a time. I thought that her side-eyeing them while swiping the booze was funnier than the actual dialog in that scene, but that's me.

Kind think that in real life Emma Watson is pretty aware of the fact that most guys would rape her if given the chance.

It's a good thing that she ignored all of Allison Mack's text messages, though, or she actually might've been. Yikes.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

and how he's tried to convert some nameless fellow actors unsuccessfully and how disappointed he is in them)

See that right there could be the litmus test on it's own merits for a loser leftist and taken as immediate evidence as to where the problem really lies. Tried to convert and his disappointment.... the moral authority of an uniformed @$$hole. And those reactions and positioning right there are your qualifiers for everything that people like him are made of.

Like he is - in his own mind - a savior and the absolute guiding light of what is of correct thought. Children do that too before they grow up and learn more things.

[ChosenOne]

Never negotiate with terrorists, and never apologize to lefties. But I'm being redundant.

Originally Posted by Leo656

People shouldn't cancel Seth Rogen because James Franco might be a womanizer, sexual harasser, whatever the accusation is.

People should cancel Seth Rogen because Seth Rogen isn't funny.

He helped make the Invincible show a thing, though. I don't like the guy either but that earns him just a teeny, tiny pass.

[FrederikWolferson]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Ya I'd say that there is a cross section of that population where your description there is fundamentally true. Fundamentally true by both the selfish-psychology as well as sociological-phenomena levels. It's the selfish-psychology levels that I regularly take issue with. But most of those people wouldn't understand even that. There is a point where you draw a line of understanding and simply get into a well of "these are terrible people". There's a point where the justification of behavior finally crosses the line into "you're too far gone, you're too lost in your own maze of nonsense, it's purely you".

This isn't even just some celebs and twitter people. The ruling class is putting barbed wire around cities because they believe hordes of nazis are just beyond the corner.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FrederikWolferson

This isn't even just some celebs and twitter people. The ruling class is putting barbed wire around cities because they believe hordes of nazis are just beyond the corner.

I think it's less that they honestly believe that as much it is them wanting additional "optics" to support "we're living in fear of nazis out there! Really, we are! Surely we wouldn't need to put up this barbed wire if we weren't, right?" to the masses.

[Refractive Reflections]

James Franco and Seth Rogen are just small-time "fish" compared to the major Hollywood players like Roman Polanski and Harvey Weinstein who have gotten away with so much, and for so long. So leftist Hollywood will gladly make Franco and Rogen the sacrifices, to advertise to the world just how "woke" they are while never truly addressing the pervasive problem of sexual assault/harassment in Hollywood from the powerful.

[frank_one]

I've always liked Franco. Maybe he never gave an astonishing performance and he lacks the depth of greater actors, but he's good. I'm sad he put himself in trouble, I'm having an hard time keeping up with hollywood' scandals these days.

[FrederikWolferson]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think it's less that they honestly believe that as much it is them wanting additional "optics" to support "we're living in fear of nazis out there! Really, we are! Surely we wouldn't need to put up this barbed wire if we weren't, right?" to the masses.

Over the past 5-6 years they told that story so many times that they probably convinced themselves.