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Old 08-27-2021, 10:26 AM   #1
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I do agree. If we ever remove all religion and kill the concept of there being a hell awaiting sinners, it's gonna go full on Purge worldwide.

For literally billions upon billions of people out there, regardless of beliefs, it's the fear of whatever version of hell they believe in that stops them from commiting true evil.

In terms of people in authority looking over you and laws keeping people in check, look all the soldiers raping women in third world countries. These people might never ever do something like that when they're living in America as regular joes, but I'm sure they're thinking to themselves 'I'm in some jungle in some third world country in the middle of nowhere, who the **** is ever gonna know?'

Note, I am in no way condoning rape, of course not, I'm just saying that might explain why rape is common in those situations, because 'who will ever know?' the fear of 'Somebody watching you' is removed.
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Old 08-27-2021, 01:30 PM   #2
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I do agree. If we ever remove all religion and kill the concept of there being a hell awaiting sinners, it's gonna go full on Purge worldwide.

For literally billions upon billions of people out there, regardless of beliefs, it's the fear of whatever version of hell they believe in that stops them from commiting true evil.

In terms of people in authority looking over you and laws keeping people in check, look all the soldiers raping women in third world countries. These people might never ever do something like that when they're living in America as regular joes, but I'm sure they're thinking to themselves 'I'm in some jungle in some third world country in the middle of nowhere, who the **** is ever gonna know?'

Note, I am in no way condoning rape, of course not, I'm just saying that might explain why rape is common in those situations, because 'who will ever know?' the fear of 'Somebody watching you' is removed.
Yeah. And I don't claim to have the answers... but what I'd suggest is like... keep a Christian/Catholic sort of religious backbone to society, school and peripherally even at the government level (which is not to say prayer, or a mix of church and state). People can be atheist or agnostic or whatever they want, but on an operational and a fundamental level there should be that backbone in place and that really shouldn't ever be allowed to be de-normalized. Parodied, lampooned? Of course. Just not torn down.

Otherwise, yeah. "I've been spending a lot of time thinking a whole lot about myself lately, looking inward, and I realize that I'm a brand new gender I invented and I want to be my best me now!" and "I've been looking at old movies and books and I've determined that this list of 50 of them are all racist and should be banned!"/"Look at these nazis I found on the internet today!" and so on types emerge and start making a run on the pink hair dye aisle.
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:44 PM   #3
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I do agree. If we ever remove all religion and kill the concept of there being a hell awaiting sinners, it's gonna go full on Purge worldwide.

For literally billions upon billions of people out there, regardless of beliefs, it's the fear of whatever version of hell they believe in that stops them from commiting true evil.

In terms of people in authority looking over you and laws keeping people in check, look all the soldiers raping women in third world countries. These people might never ever do something like that when they're living in America as regular joes, but I'm sure they're thinking to themselves 'I'm in some jungle in some third world country in the middle of nowhere, who the **** is ever gonna know?'

Note, I am in no way condoning rape, of course not, I'm just saying that might explain why rape is common in those situations, because 'who will ever know?' the fear of 'Somebody watching you' is removed.
Which reminds me that "Casualties of War" starring Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn is a very good movie. Although not one to watch if you want to be in a particularly sunny mood for the rest of your day.

But yeah, relevant to what you said because the stuff in that movie is based on actual historical events, which ultimately came about for exactly that reason: "Who even gives a sh*t?" That's the kind of stuff people do when the threat of consequence is removed. Thankfully, in that one case the perpetrators DID suffer consequences, but only because One Guy had a strong enough conscience to risk literally everything to see justice done. MOST people would've just looked the other way... or joined in.

Human decency generally evaporates, and sociopathic tendencies kick in, the very second a person realizes that "God" isn't paying any attention.

"Everybody's acting like we can do anything, and it don't matter what we do! ...Well maybe we ought'a be extra careful, because maybe it matters more than we even know."

Seriously, watch that movie if you never have. Just, y'know, expect it to be reasonably depressing and bleak. It's a great flick, though.
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Old 08-27-2021, 09:11 PM   #4
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Which reminds me that "Casualties of War" starring Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn is a very good movie. Although not one to watch if you want to be in a particularly sunny mood for the rest of your day.

But yeah, relevant to what you said because the stuff in that movie is based on actual historical events, which ultimately came about for exactly that reason: "Who even gives a sh*t?" That's the kind of stuff people do when the threat of consequence is removed. Thankfully, in that one case the perpetrators DID suffer consequences, but only because One Guy had a strong enough conscience to risk literally everything to see justice done. MOST people would've just looked the other way... or joined in.

Human decency generally evaporates, and sociopathic tendencies kick in, the very second a person realizes that "God" isn't paying any attention.

"Everybody's acting like we can do anything, and it don't matter what we do! ...Well maybe we ought'a be extra careful, because maybe it matters more than we even know."

Seriously, watch that movie if you never have. Just, y'know, expect it to be reasonably depressing and bleak. It's a great flick, though.
I'm assuming that one good guy was the one played by Micheal J Fox. I don't see him every playing THAT kind of role.
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Sony apparently didn't offer Ken Jennings the job because of his old tweets. Some focus groups also weren't responding well to him.

https://news.yahoo.com/ken-jennings-...153045087.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the...ys-11630065609
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Old 08-27-2021, 09:57 PM   #6
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I'm assuming that one good guy was the one played by Micheal J Fox. I don't see him every playing THAT kind of role.
Yeah he played the guy who refused to rape the girl and then blew the whistle on his whole squad later on. And initially, nobody even gave a sh*t.

I'm a sucker for a good "based on true-life events" movie, when actually done well with a lean towards historical accuracy. And that's a really good one. But watching it and knowing that not only did this sh*t happen, the Real Life Events were actually even worse, makes it not a very feel-good movie.

BUT, it serves as a cold reminder than when push comes to shove, the only thing required for Evil to take place is for Good people to do nothing.

Sometimes, they do something, and it all works out. But not always. Not even most times, sadly.

Here's some of the actual events which inspired the movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_on_Hill_192
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Robin Roberts should have been chosen to be the host. She's neither male, white, nor straight.
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:37 AM   #8
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Robin Roberts should have been chosen to be the host. She's neither male, white, nor straight.
and therein lies the crux of the problem. imagine people saying they where neither black, or gay or trans...

see the dichotomy here?
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Old 08-30-2021, 11:36 AM   #9
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and therein lies the crux of the problem. imagine people saying they where neither black, or gay or trans...

see the dichotomy here?
I'm not sure what you mean, but I was being facetious.
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