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Old 03-28-2022, 11:29 AM   #21
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And here's conspiracy theory.
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:36 AM   #22
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it’s just as staged as covid-19 scamdemic. they want to create the illusion that it was real, not scripted. the point was to warn other comedians not to make bigoted jokes and offend people, or else they will get beat down by cancel culture mob for being so mean and excercising freedom of speech. thats the way ccp commies likes it, uh-huh uh-huh
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:47 AM   #23
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the point was to warn other comedians not to make bigoted jokes and offend people
Eh, I don't know. Maybe that'd be a desirable side effect for a lot of people, but I don't imagine it would be a desirable side effect for Rock (Rock is very much not a part of comedians getting cancelled). And if this came from anybody, it came from him.

"But Will Smith crying!", etc.. Please. That man can cry on the drop of a dime. It's what he's good at.
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:58 AM   #24
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Will Smith was all over the place during his acceptance speech. Felt like he was trying to cover every angle of his outburst from implying it was method acting ("king Richard was a defender of his family!" or whatever) to fishing for as many laughs as possible, in order to ensure the audience would be on his side.

It seemed like he left a little pause after saying "sometimes you do crazy things for love", in order to let some applause through, but none did, so he mentioned his mom knitting at home, for more laughs. Pretty bizarre night.
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:59 AM   #25
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And here's conspiracy theory.
I dunno man, the first couple of lyrics from 'Black Suits Comin'' come across like predictive programming
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Old 03-28-2022, 12:17 PM   #26
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"But Will Smith crying!", etc.. Please. That man can cry on the drop of a dime. It's what he's good at.
IDK man, that interview when his wife was talking about her getting it from elsewhere, those tears looked real to me.

Too bad it was the Oscars and not like a roast or something. I woulda been like 'Will Smith ladies and gentlemen. You can **** his wife, just don't **** with his wife."
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Old 03-28-2022, 12:31 PM   #27
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IDK man, that interview when his wife was talking about her getting it from elsewhere, those tears looked real to me.
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Old 03-28-2022, 12:43 PM   #28
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That happened forever ago. I found one that's a breakdown of everything and how it led to that event which reached meme-status.

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Old 03-28-2022, 12:52 PM   #29
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Coola is right on point with this! Will is trapped in a crap marriage and he has no power or say in it. He had no intention of doing anything after that joke but then he likely saw his wife’s disappointment and disgust in him continuing to be a weak and pathetic man! So he got up and did what he did to either prove her wrong in a completely idiotic way, or embarrass her, or a little bit of both. I do not believe for a minute this was staged. It was more than likely a guy that just reached a bit of a breaking point on his bad marriage!
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Coola is right on point with this! Will is trapped in a crap marriage and he has no power or say in it. He had no intention of doing anything after that joke but then he likely saw his wife’s disappointment and disgust in him continuing to be a weak and pathetic man! So he got up and did what he did to either prove her wrong in a completely idiotic way, or embarrass her, or a little bit of both.
It could very well be that simple. I'm not saying it isn't.
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Old 03-28-2022, 01:00 PM   #31
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The fact the topic is even called Will Smith SLAPS Chris Rock rather than PUNCHED Chris Rock shows how much of a little bitch Will was. Plus he was like 'take my wife's name out of your mouth' in his best 'trying hard not to cry' voice. Jada completely emasculated him during their marriage.

From what I understand, Will doesn't believe in divorce, so he probably never will, and if a divorce ever happens, Jada seems cold enough to take him for everything he's worth.... and still be heralded as stunning and brave.
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The fact the topic is even called Will Smith SLAPS Chris Rock rather than PUNCHED Chris Rock shows how much of a little bitch Will was. Plus he was like 'take my wife's name out of your mouth' in his best 'trying hard not to cry' voice. Jada completely emasculated him during their marriage.

From what I understand, Will doesn't believe in divorce, so he probably never will, and if a divorce ever happens, Jada seems cold enough to take him for everything he's worth.... and still be heralded as stunning and brave.
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Old 03-28-2022, 01:44 PM   #33
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Old 03-28-2022, 02:00 PM   #34
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I really don't care to take a side, but what stands out to me is I'm seeing a lot of opinions that essentially say it's never okay to hit someone, no matter what they say and I'm not sure I agree.

It's not that I condone violence - not at all, it's just that I am not of the belief that physical assault is always more harmful than verbal assault. So, while I don't condone violence, I also don't condone taunting and teasing people for things that are out of their control. I mean, you can call any insult a "joke", so "joke" at your own risk, I guess.
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Old 03-28-2022, 02:57 PM   #35
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I think that Jada is probably a manipulative narccisist and Will is just a guy that wants to have his family so badly in life that he's getting his @$$ handed to him left and right.

Lots of smoke in the Smith household - enough that there is a family fire and he's trying to smile through it and be a family man.
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Old 03-28-2022, 03:12 PM   #36
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I really don't care to take a side, but what stands out to me is I'm seeing a lot of opinions that essentially say it's never okay to hit someone, no matter what they say and I'm not sure I agree.

It's not that I condone violence - not at all, it's just that I am not of the belief that physical assault is always more harmful than verbal assault. So, while I don't condone violence, I also don't condone taunting and teasing people for things that are out of their control. I mean, you can call any insult a "joke", so "joke" at your own risk, I guess.
He had no real choice. I mean Chris insulted August's woman, he had to do something.
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I think that Jada is probably a manipulative narccisist and Will is just a guy that wants to have his family so badly in life that he's getting his @$$ handed to him left and right.

Lots of smoke in the Smith household - enough that there is a family fire and he's trying to smile through it and be a family man.
And wasn't it Jada pushing the Theybies thing with the kids? What a mess.

I mean, I don't doubt there is trouble in paradise. But these are also actors who are in no way above doing some kind of performance art.
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Old 03-28-2022, 03:27 PM   #38
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Was it staged? No. Did Will have any intention of doing it until Jada basically bitchslapped him with dagger gaze? Probably not. He seemed to be chuckling at the joke in the shot immediately prior.

I’m surprised more than a few people here commented they didn’t know she had the condition, I heard about it a couple of years ago. She’s stupidly overly sensitive about the condition though. Yes losing your hair is crap, but there’s worse things. There are two well known British athletes with alopecia, Duncan Goodhew and Joanna Rowsell, and both have been incredibly accepting of it, and in Goodhew’s case, completely self deprecating about it. It arguably added to his appeal and made him stand out. But maybe that’s the difference, bald men are more accepted than bald women. But Rowsell has been known to make jokes about her condition too, she did after she won gold at London 2012 (and the gold post box in her honour is literally a few hundred yards from where I live).

Rock’s joke was pretty light in the scheme of things but she’s proved she has no humour at all. If everyone took umbrage to jokes like that when Gervais was doing the GG, he’d been broken in several places.
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Old 03-28-2022, 03:34 PM   #39
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Will slaps while August claps.
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She’s stupidly overly sensitive about the condition though.

But maybe that’s the difference, bald men are more accepted than bald women.
Yeah... I don't know how most men would accept it, but hair is quite tied to your identity as a woman, and I know esp for black women. I have a hard enough time accepting the color of mine fading with age, if I had a condition that caused it to just all fall out I'd be devastated and feel quite betrayed by it. Making a joke about that and in front of the nation/world is a rather personal low blow. Joking about it yourself is one thing, but someone else doing so is way, way too personal.

Whether Jada gave Will a death glare or it simply took him a moment for the "joke" to register, can't even guess (since I know next to nothing about her or what's up with them)... but can't blame him for trying to defend her, no matter the personal situation of their relationship, she's still the mother of his kids who don't need to see that left unanswered. Though a scathing public comment afterward might have been a better choice...?



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