Will Smith slaps Chris Rock at Oscars

[Leo656]

They all look like idiots. "Best interests" is a reach.

If they wanted Internet Chatter and "relevance" mixed in with a little light controversy, all they had to do was make Spider-Man "Best Picture".

When people are saying how "Next year they're gonna have Jerry Springer host the Oscars", your master plan has blown up in your face. IF it was staged, it was very poorly thought-out because people are still saying "The Oscars are a joke" but for completely different reasons. What little credibility they had is pretty well shot now.

I mean, we'll never know. But IF it's a work, it's the brainchild of a simpleton.

[Andrew NDB]

King Richard won Smith the Oscar... but it lost money at the box office. When was the last time Will Smith was a big star? Suicide Squad? lol...

Jada? Apart from an unrecognizable part in Matrix 4 (which lost a LOT of money), what has she had going on? Fish Mooney or whatever, from Gotham?

Guess what everyone is doing now? Talking about both of them, often praising Smith for being a valiant husband and feeling pity for her and her medical condition. And while it's a little messy that everyone brings up their weird open marriage stuff into the same equation, it wasn't like they were trying to hide it before this either.

And Rock? Again, doesn't gaf. He would easily take a smack for a bit of publicity. It wasn't like "Spiral" made a big splash or anything, and his standups haven't been "must see" for ages. Now everyone is anxious to see what he's going to say next.

And the Oscars. A pit of despair and woke speeches for years that everyone largely gave up on until this went down. Now millions of people are calling it must see TV again.

And Smith and Rock have been friends for ages. My gut is still that they're all laughing over drinks at the Smith mansion and looking at the memes.

[DarkFell]

Friends don't slap friends in front of the public eye. Smith broke Bro Code by doing just that.

[Leo656]

All I'm seeing are constant negatives. "He's an ass, so is He, the wife's a slut and a ball-breaker, the Oscars are a joke for letting this happen", and on and on. I doubt the Academy actually wants to be known as "The NEW Home of Trash TV" even if that gets people chatterboxing.

I am seeing SOME praise for Smith "defending her honor", but not anywhere near as much as people saying, "Dumbass shouldn't even still BE with her trifling cheating ass."

I get that "getting clicks" is the new social currency or whatever, but when Every Single Person (and entity) comes out of a situation looing worse than they went in - Smith may not have been setting box office records lately, but NOW we also know (or assume) that he's a thin-skinned crybaby who does what Wifey tells him to do, up to and including public displays of violence - then again, your plan has backfired.

Again, if they wanted attention and relevance then ALL they had to do was start giving attention to movies people actually watch. Until they do THAT, and only That, then nobody is ever gonna care what they do. They could have Alec Baldwin fake-shoot someone live onstage and unless a Marvel movie is up for Best Picture then NOTHING they do to try and "get some attention" will work.

The Oscars aren't only irrelevant because they're boring and masturbatory. It's that they give awards to movies about gay cowboys eating pudding that ten people have ever seen while ignoring anything people actually like. THAT is the issue and it's been the issue for decades. The ONE time they "went commercial", and gave the whole house to "Titanic", it backfired on them once people realized a few months later that "Yeah, that thing actually wasn't very good and it mostly coasted on the Celine Dion song." Ever since then, they don't like to acknowledge anything people pay to see and instead fawn over artsy-fartsy crap. I get it, but it's killing them.

So again, if they thought a fake slap-fight between two black guys, RIGHT in the middle of an ongoing cultural conversation about whether or not black people are inherently violent by nature or not, was going to get them some "good attention", their finger is not only NOT on the pulse, it's jammed so far up their collective asses that they can probably find a heartbeat.

Not saying it's "impossible". But if it's a work it's a really, really, really, really, REALLY bad one, and it backfired.

[Wildcat]

Are they really friends though or just know each other because they’re actors? I honestly don’t know. Chris Rock was on Fresh Prince once but that was a long time ago.

Those potential reasons don’t make any sense. Especially from Will’s and the Oscar’s standpoint.

[Andrew NDB]

It doesn't matter how it comes off to me and you or people on Facebook and Twitter. It only matters to the woke left (who make and fund the big movies). Who cheer this stuff on. "YAY! SMITE the comedian telling jokes I feel are bad! This kind of comedy is the same as violence! I personally find [fill in the blank] unfunny anyway" and so on. This is stuff they've been saying loudly for at least a couple of years now.

[Leo656]

The View seems to carry the torch for the Woke Mob, and from what I was reading they were saying the same exact thing I am, that everyone involved looks like f*cking morons and children, the Academy included.

I've hardly seen anyone stick up for Rock, or Smith, and definitely not Jada. I've actually seen a little more praise for Rock, if anything, which kind of puts holes in your argument that this is all just about "silencing comedians". I've seen some people talk about how graceful he kept his composure, whereas 99% of people think Will was a big baby. So... pretty much the opposite of how your theory would hypothetically work.

Ratings were barely up a blip over last year. People are meme'ing but nobody actually watched the show. And they won't next year, either.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I've hardly seen anyone stick up for Rock, or Smith, and definitely not Jada. I've actually seen a little more praise for Rock, if anything, which kind of puts holes in your argument that this is all just about "silencing comedians". I've seen some people talk about how graceful he kept his composure, whereas 99% of people think Will was a big baby. So... pretty much the opposite of how your theory would hypothetically work.

Do any of these people make or fund the big (largely artsy, but risky financially, but we could even be talking about 200 million dollar budgeted blockbusters... these are the same like-minded people) movies? Then I see no holes.

[Leo656]

Spoiler Alert: Nobody's gonna watch the Oscars next year, either.

So again, "brainchild of a simpleton".

Giving Spider-Man "Best Picture" would get them ALL of the chatter and zero of the "Was this fake/What a bunch of assholes" controversy.

This is some "George Bush Did 9/11" level stuff, right here. In that the conspiracy only works if everyone involved in said conspiracy is a Literal Retard. And also, in either case, in the end nothing of value was gained and in fact much was lost.

I mean anything's possible. But I doubt a bunch of crusty old white dudes such as the Academy actually subscribe to the "No such thing as Bad Publicity as long as we get people talking" idea, when the simplest way to "get people talking" would simply be to acknowledge movies people have actually seen or heard of.

"We won't do THAT, but we'll have two black guys have a slap fight on live TV." Like, really?

I'm not saying they aren't stupid. I am saying, they'd have to be stupid to set such a thing up and even stupider to think they'd gain anything of value from doing so. And they might be. They definitely might be.

Either way, joke's on them, nobody's gonna watch next year either. So they can jump on the MCU gravy train like the rest of Hollywood or they can go extinct. Ball's in their court. Sh*t Like This, staged or not, isn't gonna get them what they want.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah... I don't know how most men would accept it, but hair is quite tied to your identity as a woman, and I know esp for black women. I have a hard enough time accepting the color of mine fading with age, if I had a condition that caused it to just all fall out I'd be devastated and feel quite betrayed by it. Making a joke about that and in front of the nation/world is a rather personal low blow. Joking about it yourself is one thing, but someone else doing so is way, way too personal.

One thing I forgot to add to my original post, and it's quite pertinent, is that there's a huge culture in the afro American and Caribbean to have short hair and wear wigs. Why Jada has chosen not to, I can't answer for her. But scores of women willingly leep their real hair short and wear fake over the top.

[joe-eyeball]

Yeah I don’t believe for one second this was staged. Some of the “evidence” of it being staged requires a metric fvckton of gullibility to believe. The whole Chris Rock smiling and giving up his chin is easily explained away that he thought Smith was going to maybe tap him on the cheek, or bear hug him, or basically just troll him a bit. I think it’s obvious that Rock didn’t even fathom that Will was serious. After the slap it’s abundantly clear that Chris was in a state of shock and actually for a moment at a complete loss for words. Plus Chris Rock for damn sure isn’t that good of an actor! If it’s fake then he should have gotten the lifetime achievement Oscar that night!

Also like others have said how would anyone with a mildly functioning brain think having two black guys get into an altercation on Hollywood’s biggest night would actually be a great way to drive up ratings for the Oscars going forward. There are a million better ways to do it without embarrassing the guests! Remember when a good chunk of the top nominated films were also box office blockbusters? If Hollywood got back to making films people actually wanted to see and dropped the everything has to be political nonsense in both film and the speeches that these actors give then just maybe will people give a damn again?

Hollywood has always had an image problem and a bit of a disconnect with reality and the people that live in it but now things have devolved to nausea inducing levels. Now you can have a blockbuster with no star power and that is because the idea of what star is has become so diluted. That’s because we live in the fifteen minutes of fame society with TikTok and YouTube stars which have further blurred reality. The bottom line is nobody with an actual life truly cares about these famous Hollywood types anymore and that is entirely Hollywood’s own fault! If those overpaid and undereducated , delusional a$$hats fix that then maybe people will watch that crap again

[AquaParade]

If they were going to stage something, it'd be something that makes them seem really classy. They would have handled the situation way better in said scenario.

This is like something MTV would stage.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

If they were going to stage something, it'd be something that makes them seem really classy. They would have handled the situation way better in said scenario.

This is like something MTV would stage.

Classy doesn't equal ratings. What're some examples of live, classy shows that get big ratings?

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Classy doesn't equal ratings. What're some examples of live, classy shows that get big ratings?

That's true, but these people don't even want to give awards to superhero movies, which would garner them much more attention than they've been receiving.
So they clearly think about themselves in a certain way.

[ZariusTwo]

ROFL, Marvel movies don't deserve oscars. They're theme park rides.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

ROFL, Marvel movies don't deserve oscars. They're theme park rides.

I can't think of one that would, honestly. Which isn't to say there aren't Marvel movies better than a lot of the Oscar winners over the years that never belonged even as nominations.

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly, End Game and No Way Home.

Might not be Oscar-worthy, but neither is half the crap on there.

Also didn't Suicide Squad win some sort of award for best costumes? Like.... they were pretty much what you'd expect, they didn't wear anything earth-shattering.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

ROFL, Marvel movies don't deserve oscars. They're theme park rides.

Who said Marvel?
but you could actually argue for a few of them, based on the unique merits they do bring to the table.
It helps when you remember that not every movie that ever won on an award is actually more than a pretentious pile of crap. It’s all subjective.

Anyway, you missed the point: Superheo movies garner attention.

If you want to crap on marvel, be my guest lol.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by joe-eyeball

Yeah I don’t believe for one second this was staged. Some of the “evidence” of it being staged requires a metric fvckton of gullibility to believe. The whole Chris Rock smiling and giving up his chin is easily explained away that he thought Smith was going to maybe tap him on the cheek, or bear hug him, or basically just troll him a bit.:

Exactly.

And also, when multiple cameras are rolling multiple angles at 60 FPS you have an enormous amount of opportunities to freeze frame and find the nanosecond of strange expressions that you want to highlight.

These guys did not get together with the government during their last "Orlock" worshipping session in a dark room with hoods and robes and stage Will Smith buggin' up on Chris Rock for "weird rationale XYZ".

Will Smith has his dick in his brain and his brain wrapped around an abusive relationship partner and he is losing his $#!( over it. It's really that simple.

[AquaParade]

Either one of them could easily be “cancelled” by the ever-flippant Twitter mob, so it doesn’t make sense to risk it.

One for “abuse” and one for “toxic disease-shaming q” or whatever they cook up over there.