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Old 02-08-2023, 06:04 PM   #41
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Is this real? This Disney+ clip of the Proud Family talking about slavery and reparations has been circulating. Even on a kids show, everything has to be woke and politicized these days.

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it's real. this is the 'not so secret gay agenda' mentioned a while back.. i.e. non stop blatant woke ****.
Yeah, yikes. If this is what Iger was talking about when he said Disney would be getting out of politics I'm not sure how well that's going to work out for them.
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Old 02-08-2023, 06:21 PM   #42
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The concept of 'reparations'.... when it's literally centuries too late to do anything about it.
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Old 02-09-2023, 11:12 AM   #43
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The concept of 'reparations'.... when it's literally centuries too late to do anything about it.
Something was done about it. It was called the Civil War.
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Old 02-09-2023, 11:15 AM   #44
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Iger open to selling hulu

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Old 02-09-2023, 12:15 PM   #45
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Is this real? This Disney+ clip of the Proud Family talking about slavery and reparations has been circulating. Even on a kids show, everything has to be woke and politicized these days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SAzGObgdz1I
Oh it’s real alright, even though it feels like you’re in a nightmare.

It’s a real shame. I loved The Proud Family as a kid, one of my favorite Disney Channel shows. It used to be a show for everyone, not just blacks, and it was heartwarming and fun. But since this is 2023 and everyone is obsessed with race and what your ancestors did to their ancestors 300 years ago, it’s gotta be yet another piece of woke propaganda.
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:17 PM   #46
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"Reparations"...what a retarded idea.
How they gonna implement it? Demand prove from Blacks their ancestors were in slavery? What about Chinese, Irish, Italians who also were treated like second class citizens in US at various points in time? What about descendants of Black slaveholders? Do idiots who propose it don't understand that even US budget won't be able to coer it, unless reparations are symbolic?

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Old 02-09-2023, 12:30 PM   #47
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How weird. After going to all that trouble of incrementally taking it over? And their treatment of it is bizarre. I thought for sure they'd use Hulu as where they could do "adult" MCU content and such, but they're not doing any of that.
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:30 AM   #48
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There was also a report several months ago that they were also looking to sell both ESPN and ABC. Not sure why on ABC (maybe they want to focus more on Disney +) but it said something about ESPN not being "on brand" with Disney.
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Old 02-11-2023, 01:20 PM   #49
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There was also a report several months ago that they were also looking to sell both ESPN and ABC. Not sure why on ABC (maybe they want to focus more on Disney +) but it said something about ESPN not being "on brand" with Disney.
ESPN being with Disney was always kind of weird, There's nothing about ESPN that makes you think Disney about it, Sports isn't something Disney is associated with, So owning ESPN was there way to include sports, But ESPN has always been its own thing, And there's nothing Disney like about them.
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ESPN being with Disney was always kind of weird, There's nothing about ESPN that makes you think Disney about it, Sports isn't something Disney is associated with, So owning ESPN was there way to include sports, But ESPN has always been its own thing, And there's nothing Disney like about them.
It is weird indeed but the question is will they sell it? Disney isn't known for riding themselves of properties.
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Old 02-12-2023, 01:32 AM   #51
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Oh it’s real alright, even though it feels like you’re in a nightmare.

It’s a real shame. I loved The Proud Family as a kid, one of my favorite Disney Channel shows. It used to be a show for everyone, not just blacks, and it was heartwarming and fun. But since this is 2023 and everyone is obsessed with race and what your ancestors did to their ancestors 300 years ago, it’s gotta be yet another piece of woke propaganda.
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Dear Fellow Employees,

As I shared with you in February, we have made the difficult decision to reduce our overall workforce by approximately 7,000 jobs as part of a strategic realignment of the company, including important cost-saving measures necessary for creating a more effective, coordinated and streamlined approach to our business. Over the past few months, senior leaders have been working closely with HR to assess their operational needs, and I want to give you an update on those efforts.

This week, we begin notifying employees whose positions are impacted by the company’s workforce reductions. Leaders will be communicating the news directly to the first group of impacted employees over the next four days. A second, larger round of notifications will happen in April with several thousand more staff reductions, and we expect to commence the final round of notifications before the beginning of the summer to reach our 7,000-job target.

The difficult reality of many colleagues and friends leaving Disney is not something we take lightly. This company is home to the most talented and dedicated employees in the world, and so many of you bring a lifelong passion for Disney to your work here. That’s part of what makes working at Disney so special. It also makes it all the more difficult to say goodbye to wonderful people we care about. I want to offer my sincere thanks and appreciation to every departing employee for your numerous contributions and your devotion to this beloved company.

For our employees who aren’t impacted, I want to acknowledge that there will no doubt be challenges ahead as we continue building the structures and functions that will enable us to be successful moving forward. I ask for your continued understanding and collaboration during this time.

In tough moments, we must always do what is required to ensure Disney can continue delivering exceptional entertainment to audiences and guests around the world – now, and long into the future. Please know that our HR partners and leaders are committed to creating a supportive and smooth process every step of the way.

I want to thank each of you again for all your many achievements here at The Walt Disney Company.

Sincerely,

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Old 03-27-2023, 11:57 AM   #53
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Old 03-27-2023, 02:03 PM   #54
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What is note should've said:

"Soooo. Um. Guys we ran our company into the ground with woke $#!( policy. We enhanced our intellectual property portfolio over the last ten years by adding elements such as FOX, Star Wars, Marvel and more. But. Um. Well we ran those into the ground with woke $#!( policy as well. Soooo.... well. Um. I get to keep my job, but we can at least cheer that Victoria Alonso is also gone, but well... 7,000 of you will be fired. Thankyouhaveagooddaybye."
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Old 03-29-2023, 06:43 PM   #55
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What is note should've said:

"Soooo. Um. Guys we ran our company into the ground with woke $#!( policy. We enhanced our intellectual property portfolio over the last ten years by adding elements such as FOX, Star Wars, Marvel and more. But. Um. Well we ran those into the ground with woke $#!( policy as well. Soooo.... well. Um. I get to keep my job, but we can at least cheer that Victoria Alonso is also gone, but well... 7,000 of you will be fired. Thankyouhaveagooddaybye."
The problem is that even articles from right wing sources that have connected the lay offs to Disney's pushing of a 'woke' agenda also point out (as something of an after thought) that Disney's profits are way up past their own analysts predictions. $23.51 billion if you're curious of the actual number.

But hey I'm just a progressive 'disingenuously' pointing out a fact for some nefarious reason.

Of course you may may be confused about why a company that is currently doing so well would lay so many people off. The answer is that they are still a heartless corporation that wants to maximise the already insane amount of profits they have and don't care about their workers livelihoods. That may be hard for you to accept both that a company that is pushing 'woke' content is doing so well or that trickle down economics doesn't work yet again since you've invested a lot of your personal worldview on proving the opposite but don't blame the messenger. Thankyouhaveagooddaybye
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Old 03-29-2023, 06:48 PM   #56
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LOL,

Profits are WAY up...you have an office in the C Suite?


https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...p-for-auction/

selling anything they can, closing 'voyages' on the galactic star cruiser and firing 7,000 employees. yep, they are sooooo succesfull.
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LOL,

Profits are WAY up...you have an office in the C Suite?


https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...p-for-auction/

selling anything they can, closing 'voyages' on the galactic star cruiser and firing 7,000 employees. yep, they are sooooo succesfull.
Someone didn't read my post in full or didn't understand it.

Here is a variety of sources to show it's earned $23.51 billion in the first quarter of this year:

https://wdwnt.com/2023/02/the-walt-d...arter-of-2023/
https://www.piratesandprincesses.net...bscriber-loss/
https://breakingthenews.net/Article/...3.51B/59431079


The fact that Disney's profits are way up doesn't mean anything about how it treats it's workers or it's property. I realise people on the right are conditioned to believe that if a corporation is allowed to do what it wants, pays little in tax and earns billions they will expand and increase jobs. In reality they almost do the opposite.

Let me make it simple for you; What's the one thing a corporation with a lot of money wants? More money. Selling off things they no longer need and laying off workers is the way they do it.
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One thing a corporation wants is to not be viewed by it's buying public with negative sentiment and there is quite a bit of that going on with Disney.

Profits happen for a variety of reasons and with entertainment companies are almost never in real time. There's a bigger, MBA style picture going on there related directly to the content (e.g., "Woke agenda") that you either don't see or don't want to see.

And if I point out that someone is being disingenuous then it's because they have a history of making points that aren't valid and will twist facts any way they can. So if you or anyone else here doesn't like that I say it a lot in this place, then take a look at yourself because I don't say it frequently elsewhere. But you can choose "your truth" for that if it makes you feel better.
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One thing a corporation wants is to not be viewed by it's buying public with negative sentiment and there is quite a bit of that going on with Disney.

Profits happen for a variety of reasons and with entertainment companies are almost never in real time. There's a bigger, MBA style picture going on there related directly to the content (e.g., "Woke agenda") that you either don't see or don't want to see.
Corporations are generally viewed negatively by the general public. Everyone knows that Disney is not exactly some ultra honourable company set up by Uncle Walt but they don't care. As long as they keep making content that appeals to the normiest of normies people will turn that part off their brain off and consume their products. Just like people still eat at Chik-Fil-A, wipe their ass with Andrex and play EA games.

If you're going to try and argue that the profits cited above are more reflective of the last few years as opposed to the current one so far then I'll remind you that you and your ilk have been railing against Disney's 'woke' content for years now. Since they made Captain Marvel and couldn't accept it's success so started trying to make out that it was playing to empty theatres and Disney bought all the tickets to a billion dollar movie.

I keep asking this question but never get a real answer but I'll give it another shot; why do you and your ilk believe Disney, Marvel and the like deliberately ruin their products by making them 'woke'? If they lose so much money doing this they must have a reason? What's their motivation?

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And if I point out that someone is being disingenuous then it's because they have a history of making points that aren't valid and will twist facts any way they can. So if you or anyone else here doesn't like that I say it a lot in this place, then take a look at yourself because I don't say it frequently elsewhere. But you can choose "your truth" for that if it makes you feel better.
You accuse people of being disingenuous (among other things) when they come up with arguments that you disagree with but can't counter. You can't argue so you just insult them.

I've given you a pretty relevant fact for this discussion. It's not my truth it's the truth. If you can't accept that it's too bad. You're like a real life Homer Simpson "facts are meaningless they can be used to prove anything that's even remotely true"...except while he's a idiot he's good natured one.

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Corporations are generally viewed negatively by the general public.
Want to tell it to your SJW compadres, who are shoving their tongues as far as possible in Disney Corp ass, when they introduce new throwaway LGB or Black character in their movies or ready to go to their another mediocre offering, despite multiple violations against workers and human rights?

I mean, hypocrisy and deliberate blindness is normal for your ilk, but at this point it becomes hilarious. Its like you can't perceive anything your side does as wrong and ready to justify just about anything as long as you can "nail" some "evil right-wingers" (it doesn't matter that right-wingers are not evil and some of your opponents, like me, are not even right-wingers at all, but when lunatics like you cared about nuances - dogma is more important than reality for clowns like you).

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If you're going to try and argue that the profits cited above are more reflective of the last few years as opposed to the current one so far then I'll remind you that you and your ilk have been railing against Disney's 'woke' content for years now. Since they made Captain Marvel and couldn't accept it's success so started trying to make out that it was playing to empty theatres and Disney bought all the tickets to a billion dollar movie.
Was it? Yeah, it got a lot of money, but so did Transformers movies and some other junk.

In terms of cultural impact and impact on MCU it was a wet fart. Captain Marvel has not become as popular as Captain America or Iron Man. Even Disney agrees, given that they retooled Captain Marvel 2 into weird team movie with nobodies, nobody has interest in. And its not even being called "Captain Marvel".

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I keep asking this question but never get a real answer but I'll give it another shot; why do you and your ilk believe Disney, Marvel and the like deliberately ruin their products by making them 'woke'? If they lose so much money doing this they must have a reason? What's their motivation?
Because, they got zealots in their midst who genuinely believe your junk religion and, because, they think pandering to Twitterinos is more important than making good stories?

It is all, of course, performative and top brass obviously too smart to buy "woke" ****, but they allow it run rampant to earn good reputation with usual purple-haired suspects.

After all, we live in informational age, where IMPRESSIONS are more important than REALITY, at least in the beginning. The final product might be a piece of ****, but as long as enough influencers and "trust worthy" sources say its good, profit is more or less guaranteed for the big corpo franchise, like MCU. Consider it an "artificial word of mouth" by corporations. Throw in some minor political commentary and loons like you will lap this **** up because, they see necessity to CONSOOM product as some sort of political statement. And given that modern "political activists" love to do "activism" without doing anything - it is a perfect way to energize those idiots and make money of them. Like sheering dumb sheep.

You are a typical victim of manipulation and I pity you.

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I've given you a pretty relevant fact for this discussion. It's not my truth it's the truth. If you can't accept that it's too bad. You're like a real life Homer Simpson "facts are meaningless they can be used to prove anything that's even remotely true"...except while he's a idiot he's good natured one.
Your facts are run through your biased impressions. While numbers might be impressive, you need to look at the bigger picture.

The truth is "woke" world is falling down - corporations are in mild crisis and they can't afford doing risky projects spearheaded by various transmonsters and non-binary deers. They need stable profit and for this they won't divide their audience any more. Hopefully you'd adjust or you are always welcome to only place which was not infected by Capitalism.
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