Donald Trump Hush money trial

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Doesn't mean there were no machinations.

Well, hard to prove, why pay up before it even begins if you’re sure there were?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

No comment or thread here about the fact Fox News capitulated before the trial even started against Dominion, and agreeing to pay out $800M? Hmmm guess Rupert decided he didn't want to be grilled.

Won't shut up people claiming the election was stolen mind you...

Taking hush money doesn't mean nothing untoward happened. Exhibit A: Stormy Daniels.

Will shut up when the "time skip" on election night and the monkey business with the vote count are convincingly explained away. Not before.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Well, hard to prove, why pay up before it even begins if you’re sure there were?

Who knows. I am not part of either company.
Maybe Fox News just doesn't want to tangle into this crap.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Who knows. I am not part of either company.
Maybe Fox News just doesn't want to tangle into this crap.

Not to mention maybe they're implicated as well, given who first broke the news of Biden's "win" long after the last states were decided, and all of that would come out in court... A house divided.

[The Deadman]

If it's Biden/Trump II, Trump is going to win because everyone and their mother hates Biden.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

If it's Biden/Trump II, Trump is going to win because everyone and their mother hates Biden.

Biden may have seemed like an alternative before people experienced his "leadership" first hand. Now? With the economy and the world in shambles? Forget about it. This literally never happened to the other guy.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

If it's Biden/Trump II, Trump is going to win because everyone and their mother hates Biden.

“Buh-Buh why?? Everything’s fine in America!”

Meanwhile, more and more of our neighbors are buying chickens.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

If it's Biden/Trump II, Trump is going to win because everyone and their mother hates Biden.

You would think, but that's not the way it's looking at all. Independents are even more annoyed at Trump than before, and to most in the actual left Trump is still actual Hitler. So even if they despise Biden, they still wouldn't give Trump any quarter.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You would think, but that's not the way it's looking at all. Independents are even more annoyed at Trump than before, and to most in the actual left Trump is still actual Hitler. So even if they despise Biden, they still wouldn't give Trump any quarter.

Sure, a lot of people pretend to hate Trump because it keeps the woke mob off their backs, or maybe they really do hate the guy, but they’ll secretly vote for him because they care more about affordable food and housing than they do about the feelings of blue-haired weirdos. And when Trump gets back into office, they’ll go, “I didn’t vote for him! Blame the Republicans!”

Being progressive (whatever that word means anymore) may be “cool” and all, but it doesn’t put bread on the table, and when push comes to shove, the People will do anything to survive, even go against their morals.

[IMJ]

Peasant thinkers believe whatever narrative fits their view of the world. And so if the people walk through life believing that racism has oppressed them, then they will look for information to reinforce their personal status-quo. It's confirmation bias.

And so, if the leftist media narrative becomes "Trump is a racist", then regardless of the evidence that's what the countryside peasants believe.

That's how you mobilize your bottom-feeders into action - you lie to them according to a story that will encourage their low-level outrage and point them at an enemy. It's been that way all throughout history. And here's the thing about the peasant-thinker - it will always work because these people live in a circumplexic world of their own nonsense. It will never fail. Ever. Their thoughts and worldview will always bring them right back to wherever they started so as to do it all over again.

You can always count on a given societies peasant-population of @$$holes.

[Sumac]

I think that Trump might not win, but Republicans has a good shot with all the chaos going on in the world and lunacy of the Left.

[Andrew NDB]

Anyone but Trump himself has a pretty good shot from the republican aisle.

And so many times IRL I'll stumble into these super awkward conversations where someone (I'd say morons, but a lot of these people aren't bad people, they're just... relaxed thinkers) will casually mention that Trump js a racist. I'll challenge it with something like, "OK, where was he being racist? How?" And invariably they dissolve into blubber, like they've never even posed the question to themselves. At best they'll stammer out something about "well, he doesn't like Mexicans! Everyone knows that" and then they don't have any good answer for why the desire for a closed, secure border can = racism.

[robertfiduciary]

Never heard of the Central Park Five, or the ad DJT placed in the newspaper about the case?

Or the fact he wouldn’t recant his accusations after he was proven so very, very wrong?

Or how he constantly refers to black men as “animals?”

Must be nice, Fox News. Must. Be. Nice.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Anyone but Trump himself has a pretty good shot from the republican aisle.

And so many times IRL I'll stumble into these super awkward conversations where someone (I'd say morons, but a lot of these people aren't bad people, they're just... relaxed thinkers) will casually mention that Trump js a racist. I'll challenge it with something like, "OK, where was he being racist? How?" And invariably they dissolve into blubber, like they've never even posed the question to themselves. At best they'll stammer out something about "well, he doesn't like Mexicans! Everyone knows that" and then they don't have any good answer for why the desire for a closed, secure border can = racism.

[ChosenOne]

Must be nice, the Kool-Aid. Must. Be. Nice.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

Never heard of the Central Park Five, or the ad DJT placed in the newspaper about the case?

Or the fact he wouldn’t recant his accusations after he was proven so very, very wrong?

Are you talking about the case where he was pushing for the death penalty on people who pled guilty of a brutal gang rape in 1989, a full 20+ years before his presidency?

When I looked into what he said about that was that he stood by his statement and then when people brought it up he never called them gang-rapists again...he called them muggers which they were. At least I cant find anywhere where he did.

Or how he constantly refers to black men as “animals?”

"Black Men" or people in gangs that commit crimes and contribute to their 50+% gun murder rate in the USA? This is the same argument people try to use when they would try to say he was racist over the wall.

This *kills* me, BTW. I don't like Trump. I don't think he is an honorable or decent person. I just don't like it when people make these false claims because they want to justify their feelings about him.

[robertfiduciary]

Not a single false word in my claim, sir.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history

Worth reading.

[Andrew NDB]

The logic: "These animals!" when talking broadly about criminals = "most of them are statistically black so he must be specifically talking about black people!" And about the border = "most of those are Mexicans, so he must be racist there, too!"

Utterly stupid.

[robertfiduciary]

Oh, wow. You got me. I am off to the burn unit after that. .

I'm sure he was also speaking "broadly" about District Attorney Alvin Bragg?

You know. A specific (black) dude.

And who can forget President Obama's birth certificate!

Something, something, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The logic: "These animals!" when talking broadly about criminals = "most of them are statistically black so he must be specifically talking about black people!" And about the border = "most of those are Mexicans, so he must be racist there, too!"

Utterly stupid.

[ChosenOne]

Are Pelosi, Schumer, Acosta, Brandon, Rosie O'Donnell and McCain, just off the top of my head, black as well? 'Cause Trump has a go at a lot of people and yet you're only singling out the POCs, so maybe you're the racist.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IMJ

That's how you mobilize your bottom-feeders into action - you lie to them according to a story that will encourage their low-level outrage and point them at an enemy. It's been that way all throughout history. And here's the thing about the peasant-thinker - it will always work because these people live in a circumplexic world of their own nonsense. It will never fail. Ever. Their thoughts and worldview will always bring them right back to wherever they started so as to do it all over again.

Which, I'll remind you, applies to all sides. Plenty of evidence of that at Trump rallies as well. Some of them are bottom feeders.