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[FredWolfLeonardo]

I didn't know you saw yourself as once being an SJW.

Fascinating.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Do you seriously comparing genocide with phasing out paper money?
Is it a trolling or some brain worms?

Genocide only happens in authoritarian regimes devoid of democracy. But if we continue to give more power to the government, like allow them to control our bank accounts through a digital central banking system, then we’ll eventually lose that democracy, especially if the younger generation is unaware of the dangers of big government. The Marxist Left hates the nuclear family and wants to destroy it (or “disrupt” it as BLM puts it) because children with no real parental authority in their life will instantly turn to the government for security and safety, they will believe everything they are told through propaganda without question, and they will easily become the government’s tools. It’s how Hitler and Stalin came into power.

https://www.vcstar.com/story/opinion...ty/6513756001/

https://www.newsweek.com/no-presiden...pinion-1703558

Originally Posted by Sumac

Also, don't think of people as easily manipulated vegetables. You are basically parroting SJW rhetoric at this point.

The mere existence of SJW’s is proof that people can easily be manipulated.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

So what? In some countries people are eating bugs and? It is unrealistic to phase out meat industry in just few years, bar major disaster.

I mean... it's unrealistic, but that pretty much seems to be the end goal. That whole thing about 'taking care of the cows to reduce cow farts' or whatever nonsense they're planning..... I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up 'accidentally' killing the cows and increasing the push for bugs.

Personally I don't get the whole push for bugs either. Not like cows are gonna run out.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, when you subtract the actual crazy people decrying the stuff... it's not made up stuff. It's real stuff. The methane cows exude is increasing emissions and increasingly making the climate hotter, in the long term. Especially since there's just, well, more and more people from one generation to the next. So that means more and more cows and more and more farting. We can laugh about it, but it isn't slowing down. I'm good with kicking the can down a while, but... eventually this will have to be addressed.

The way I see it there's two options. We can make there be less people, through things like China policies, or we keep the floodgates open for people to just do whatever and just innovate our way through things as we've had a pretty great track record of doing so far.

[Mayhem]

Or what some of the push is, wean people off eating so much meat, into eating more vegetables and other "meat" products (be it pseudo protein or insects or whatever) instead to reduce the number of cows etc needed in the world.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Or what some of the push is, wean people off eating so much meat, into eating more vegetables and other "meat" products (be it pseudo protein or insects or whatever) instead to reduce the number of cows etc needed in the world.

That's not going to happen.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The way I see it there's two options. We can make there be less people, through things like China policies, or we keep the floodgates open for people to just do whatever and just innovate our way through things as we've had a pretty great track record of doing so far.

I'd say we're running out of the ability to innovate without it making the problem worse.

Innovation, real innovation, would be learning to see technology as a tool and not an eternal magical panacea to somehow always solve mankind's hubris and carelessness and stupidity one day 'tomorrow.' It's trap is that it tricks us into a feeling we always have enough time and can always can put things off, making us think we can 'innovate' around the problem so much before we run out of time. It's why stuff has been put off (like climate change) because people are expecting innovation to always ride in and save the day three seconds before midnight on the doomsday clock, even as we decide to keep rolling the dice on our chances.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Genocide only happens in authoritarian regimes devoid of democracy.

I've got bad news for you - Western Democracy exists mostly on paper, like it always did. Majority of stuff decided by rich elites between themselves behind the curtains and people's opinion accounted only in general. And when it does its usually used by power hungry politicians to boost their own power, until they won't depend on crowd anymore.

This is how we got to the point were some countries can put a penalty on you for calling pedofreak "a man" instead of "a woman". None of it would have passed a referendum amongst normal people, but here we are.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

The Marxist Left hates the nuclear family and wants to destroy it (or “disrupt” it as BLM puts it) because children with no real parental authority in their life will instantly turn to the government for security and safety, they will believe everything they are told through propaganda without question, and they will easily become the government’s tools.

It won't work, since people are predisposed to have families. It didn't work with real Communists in Russia in power in the beginning of 20th century, it wont work with keyboard warriors and their pedo allies calling for it.

On that note, I find the whole concept to be absurd. I've recently read article, which argued that "society should be changed, because, families harm often Homosexuals and trans and the only way to combat it is to abolish families". Imagine being so retarded that you want to abolish something as natural as family, because, 1%+ is unhappy with theirs.

As if their idea of "family units" will work and they would always treat their children right.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

It’s how Hitler and Stalin came into power.

No.
It was much more complex process and it was not just, because, "children believed everything they have been told".

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

The mere existence of SJW’s is proof that people can easily be manipulated.

You can replace SJW with anything from Christianity to Scientology.
It doesn't specifically pertain to the SJW in any way shape or form.

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'd say we're running out of the ability to innovate without it making the problem worse.

Not really - the main enemy of progress is governmental policies and various fear-mongers, including people on both Left and Right. As well, as interests of corporations to preserve their power and influence.

I am not advocating for total mad scientists experiments, but West puts so much red tape around various stuff, that scientists either move to China or give up on their experiments all-together.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I've got bad news for you - Western Democracy exists mostly on paper, like it always did. Majority of stuff decided by rich elites between themselves behind the curtains and people's opinion accounted only in general. And when it does its usually used by power hungry politicians to boost their own power, until they won't depend on crowd anymore.

So if you believe that, then why is so hard to believe that the rich elite want to reduce the population through their ridiculous woke policies? After all, the smaller the population, the easier it is to control.

Originally Posted by Sumac

You can replace SJW with anything from Christianity to Scientology.
It doesn't specifically pertain to the SJW in any way shape or form

So people in general are easy to manipulate then.

We keep going back and forth on history lessons but it’s like no one wants to acknowledge the signs that history is about to repeat itself. What makes us any different from our ancestors? That we have iPhones and Pop-Tarts while they didn’t? We still deal with wars and slavery is still alive in some countries. And the so-called “progressives” want to bring back racial segregation and argue that it’s for the “safety” of black people. A large portion of humanity refuses to learn and it’s destroying our society.

I hate to be so pessimistic, but at least I’m not burying my head in the sand like a lot of people are.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So if you believe that, then why is so hard to believe that the rich elite want to reduce the population through their ridiculous woke policies? After all, the smaller the population, the easier it is to control.

Going after the 2nd amendment is absolutely about control. An unarmed populace is one you can steamroll over, and we've seen it time and time again. The reducing population, I think, is mostly stemming from an overall liberal (though I'm really hesitating to use the word "liberal" because this is really a "hard leftist" thing, which is different, but it began with liberals) utopia dream. Though honestly I don't think it's a bad one, I hate to say it, though not remotely in the way they're going about it. But sooner or later it WILL catch up with us and then we'll be able to do very little about it.

So people in general are easy to manipulate then.

If COVID was an experiment, and I'm not suggesting it was, then we already have our answer. And so does big government. And... oh, boy, did they learn a lot of data.

And the so-called “progressives” want to bring back racial segregation and argue that it’s for the “safety” of black people.

It's a tale as old as time, if you read history. This is, maybe not step 1, but step 3 or 4 on the journey.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's not going to happen.

The eating more vegetables part, the move to other sources of protein part, or both?

When I hit 40, I re-evaluated some of my lifestyle and made some changes. Not massive ones, but better ones, reducing red meat intake (in preference for more chicken and fish), more veggies and fruit, less processed sugars, and so forth. While my joints are bitching about me approaching 50, the rest of my body is in pretty excellent shape from the recent health screen I had.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Warning: language



So even Pride month is becoming increasingly unpopular with the gays and trans

The next YouTube video has a disturbing image so I’ll just provide the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6mPAMRPPmo

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

The eating more vegetables part, the move to other sources of protein part, or both?

When I hit 40, I re-evaluated some of my lifestyle and made some changes. Not massive ones, but better ones, reducing red meat intake (in preference for more chicken and fish), more veggies and fruit, less processed sugars, and so forth. While my joints are bitching about me approaching 50, the rest of my body is in pretty excellent shape from the recent health screen I had.

Good for you! I‘ve been doing the same thing for a while and I‘m in the shape of my life.

You‘re completely right about reducing meat in your diet equaling fewer ecological problems. But as many other issues, the simple solutions are TOO simple for people who see their personal `freedom`(in reality it‘s just their egotism) as more important than anything else.

It‘t the same with speed limits on highways here. Every study (as well as common sense) indicate that speed limits would reduce carbon emissions siginificantly but NO - Germans just take too much pride in being the only European country where you could go 130 miles per hour on the highway if you want to.

[Andrew NDB]

I've seen enormous examples of people almost just eating meat that are flourishing when even before they were suffering. So I'm not sure about that. And if we're talking about stuff like "Impossible" meat, as in meat made from plants... that's a whole other subject. Like, you want to grow boobs, go ahead, at least in some options being pushed. Although if one wanted to go vegan (not me!) there IS some fascinating options to basically replicate meat taste and satisfaction.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've seen enormous examples of people almost just eating meat that are flourishing when even before they were suffering. So I'm not sure about that. And if we're talking about stuff like "Impossible" meat, as in meat made from plants... that's a whole other subject. Like, you want to grow boobs, go ahead, at least in some options being pushed. Although if one wanted to go vegan (not me!) there IS some fascinating options to basically replicate meat taste and satisfaction.

Oh, I‘m not against eating meat at all nor do I think there aren‘t benefits about eating it. I was strictly talking about the reduction of meat in your diet to reduce carbon emissions. That‘s something I firmly believe in.

[Mayhem]

Indeed, nutritionists recommend about 20% of our food intake should be protein, be it meat or whatever source. The other 80% being plants and vegetables and a bit of dairy (you need to consume some fat in your diet, it's unhealth otherwise). Willing to bet a lot of people have a consumption rate far in excess of that.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

The other 80% being plants and vegetables and a bit of dairy (you need to consume some fat in your diet, it's unhealth otherwise).

You actually need lots of fat in your diet for several reasons, it just needs to be "good" fat, like nuts or oily fish. Look at Italy, everything is drenched in olive oil and they have a ridiculously low number of people with cardiovascular disease.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So if you believe that, then why is so hard to believe that the rich elite want to reduce the population through their ridiculous woke policies? After all, the smaller the population, the easier it is to control.

You have answered your own question - because those policies are so ridiculous and bizarre, so barely anyone will follow them or they are just hard to implement in real life. If anything COVID had proven how slow and bureaucratic machine is in many Western countries. And you seriously expect this same machine being effective, when implementing plans of elites?

This is the same reason, why totalitarian countries fail in the long run: because, they are so big and ineffective any order turns into a mess, while passing through the different structures. And you expect multiple bureaucratic machines from different countries to work together flawlessly?

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So people in general are easy to manipulate then.

As I said before, do not underestimate humans and don't think of them as some sponges. This makes you similar to a SJW. Or a Fascist.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

We keep going back and forth on history lessons but it’s like no one wants to acknowledge the signs that history is about to repeat itself. What makes us any different from our ancestors? That we have iPhones and Pop-Tarts while they didn’t? We still deal with wars and slavery is still alive in some countries. And the so-called “progressives” want to bring back racial segregation and argue that it’s for the “safety” of black people. A large portion of humanity refuses to learn and it’s destroying our society.

I hate to be so pessimistic, but at least I’m not burying my head in the sand like a lot of people are.

Your arguments don't make sense. Simple as that and sounds like a paranoid fear-mongering.

You say that history about to "repeat itself" but I'd like to know how? What exactly will be repeated?

The fact that West allows itself to be manipulated by bunch of idiots is nothing new, neither its the end of times.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So even Pride month is becoming increasingly unpopular with the gays and trans

It was unpopular for a few years by now, when instead of celebrating authencity of LGBs, it has become about pedotrans and "their struggle".

Actually this June seemingly was relatively low on support of LGBBBQ/ lunatics - not in the least, because, of harassment campaign surrounding Hogwarts Legacy, Budweiser (and others) retarded ad campaigns featuring "most oppressed community in the world) and few trans-shooters.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

And you expect multiple bureaucratic machines from different countries to work together flawlessly?

We wouldn’t have the UN if that vision was impossible. It’s a start.

Originally Posted by Sumac

You have answered your own question - because those policies are so ridiculous and bizarre, so barely anyone will follow them or they are just hard to implement in real life.

Unless you demoralize the populace to the point where they’ll believe and do anything you ask.

Originally Posted by Sumac

As I said before, do not underestimate humans and don't think of them as some sponges. This makes you similar to a SJW. Or a Fascist.

All it takes is one edited clip of a tragedy from the mainstream media to turn an entire city of usually rational people into a jungle of inconsolable and destructive animals.

As Agent K said, “A person is smart; people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals”.

If I were an SJW or a fascist, I wouldn’t tell the truth and allow people to come to their own conclusions. I’d instead try to manipulate or dumb down the populace and make them my useful idiots.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Your arguments don't make sense. Simple as that and sounds like a paranoid fear-mongering.

You say that history about to "repeat itself" but I'd like to know how? What exactly will be repeated?

Like this:

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Unless you demoralize the populace to the point where they’ll believe and do anything you ask.



All it takes is one edited clip of a tragedy from the mainstream media to turn an entire city of usually rational people into a jungle of inconsolable and destructive animals.

The first thing was pretty much CoVid lockdowns.

That second thing was pretty much George Floyd.

That's why things like 'murder hornets' and 'monkey pox' seemed to have vanished into thin air. It didn't cause the massive uproar TPTB had been hoping for so they dropped it for whatever else. And by now 80-90% of the general populous stopped being afraid of CoVid whether they're vaccinated or not so pushing another variant, booster or 'winter of death' is off the table since they know it won't work anymore.