Return of the Draft?

[Coola Yagami]

What's this I've been hearing about the draft coming back? I heard they raised the age to 68 now? What the ****?

[Andrew NDB]

Are they having trouble getting people to enlist? What, the average people with interest in service don't want to go through all the LGBTQ/woke re-education stuff going on now in the military?

[Coola Yagami]

I heard this discussion in the wild. I'm not sure 'the wokeness' is the issue. It's more... no one really wants to die for nothing in Ukraine, and the people on Twitter and TikTok that 'support' it would rather virtue signal than actually enlist.

I've dig some digging and heard everything from it's already happened, it might happen, it'll never happen, and there's a big chance it does happen if the Ukraine thing blows up even more.

I so far haven't seen the usual suspects bring it up on Youtube though. I know they would have been all over this. I was hoping some of the more well-read people here would know something.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It's more... no one really wants to die for nothing in Ukraine

But nobody is being asked to die for Ukraine. So that can't be a reason.

[Barkworm]

In Germany, it‘s been casually discussed for years. In theory the draft brought a bigger variety of people from different political spectrums to the army whereas today, the cases of rightwing extremists who are serving have been increasing. It‘s a moot point since you could always dodge the draft by doing two years of paid community service.

The reasons in the US could be the same.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

In Germany, it‘s been casually discussed for years. In theory the draft brought a bigger variety of people from different political spectrums to the army whereas today, the cases of rightwing extremists who are serving have been increasing. It‘s a moot point since you could always dodge the draft by doing two years of paid community service.

The reasons in the US could be the same.

Why say "extemists"? People on the right wing generally just love the country and want to defend it. Military service seems a natural route to go for them -- though the way the country is becoming, it is becoming less and less something they'd even want to fight for. People on the left, particularly youths, are being taught to basically hate the country and "the west." So of course they'd be less apt to sign up and serve. And schools are designed to teach kids that anything but the left would be unfathomable. So it'd seem like a problem on both sides.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Why say "extemists"?

I don‘t use the term lightly, we‘re talking about actual cases where soldiers were planning terrorist attacks.

[TurtleManiac]

Haven’t heard of that, but I know that the military lost alot of soldiers over the vaccine mandate. Now with the 2 new wars that started under the Biden admin, they need them back, but most feel betrayed and are not interested in returning to fight for the Biden admin who got rid of them for refusing the vaccine. So now it’s up to the LGBTQ+ members, since Biden admin lifted the Trump era ban on transgenders in the military.

[oldmanwinters]

Kind of an interesting website:
https://www.metaculus.com/questions/...e-before-2050/

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I heard they raised the age to 68 now? What the ****?

Source?

Little hard to belive anyone would be drafting anyone that old. I'll belive it when multiple well known sources are carrying articles on it.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Little hard to belive anyone would be drafting anyone that old.

Russia?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Source?

Little hard to belive anyone would be drafting anyone that old. I'll belive it when multiple well known sources are carrying articles on it.

Overheard some guys in their late 40's/early 50's talking about it and wondered if there was any merit about it.

[Andrew NDB]

Pretty preposterous to imagine they'd bring the max age of the draft up from 25 all the way to 68 suddenly. Plus, I don't think the president or anyone can unilaterally just do that.

[IndigoErth]

60+ year old knees alone couldn't even manage it. Lol Hard enough sometimes post-40.

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Russia?

Just looking for modern cannon fodder at that point. Lol

[Andrew NDB]

And it would entail all sorts of other things, like training standards would need to be way, way lowered and so on.

[IndigoErth]

Go ahead, just try to teach the seniors the modern tech involved. That'll end well. They freak out enough if their tv setup has to change (i.e. going from regular cable to Roku). Even if given less physical roles, that's questionable for many.