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Old 01-12-2024, 05:19 PM   #1
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the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.
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Old 01-12-2024, 10:17 PM   #2
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the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.
YYYYup. Typical topic of the Drome, otherwise:

"Do you think that Shredder ever poked himself with his armor? Maybe?"
or even better
"What food do you eat that might be noodles but is actually fish instead? Maybe?"

And to your other points - well said. Oh God, don't get me started - leftist life-angry clowns who, when met with any resistance, rely on calling people "extreme right" or "racists". And SDP, I don't know why you post here at all to be completely honest. You cheerled that you left and how all of the "good users" were driven off to Discord with you. -shrugs- Go with them, bro. It's cool, we understand.
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Old 01-12-2024, 11:31 PM   #3
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You're probably the only one lol. Nobody misses a dude who belittled others with every post and then wished they were all dead.
Well, I miss Leo's presence as well. I think he gave thought provoking well written responses.

I think he always presented his arguments well and backed up his thoughts.
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Old 01-12-2024, 11:38 PM   #4
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the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.
There is always the off-chance there is a brand new TMNT iteration that commands a lot of discussion and excitement. Though if it turns out said new TMNT iteration has one of the Turtles coming out and the citizens of NYC in it demanding to defund the police or something... guess what they will have unfortunately made us talk about?

For me, here's an example. TMNT x Stranger Things, the recent miniseries, #1-4. I was actually really stoked about this and it DELIVERED, and it was an official, brand new TMNT book that is totally politics free. And people don't want to talk about it here. I made a thread for #3 and nobody said sh**. I don't think a thread even exists for #4, the conclusion. So idk, man. We're all trying here in our own ways, I think.

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Old 01-13-2024, 02:15 PM   #5
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Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?

Less controversial, the TMNT of course had the occasional environmental and anti-drug messages back in the day, too, so it's hardly new to them to do anything we now tend to lump together as being "political." We probably can't hope too much to see new series, comics, etc really remain free of it, but I'd hope that maybe it could just be passing things, that are easy to agree with or roll eyes at and move past it, rather than need to spotlight it. If people choose to be oversensitive about a passing thing in it that they don't agree with 100% of "political" things with a particular writer... well that's an optional hill to die on, I guess.

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Old 01-13-2024, 03:40 PM   #6
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Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?
because, back then, it was done for LAUGHS. and even then, I never found that kind of stuff funny, more creepy. THESE days, it wouldn't be allowed to be done for laughs. Lola would be erased, and Bugs would become the new Lola....and spouting all kind of nonsense...while LEGITEMATLY trying to get in bed with Fudd.

THAT is the difference.

and i'm shocked this even needs to be pointed out these days.
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Old 01-13-2024, 04:22 PM   #7
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Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?
Because, it was played for laughs and no-one in their right mind would have said: "Bug Bunny is non-binary character and the fact that he occasionally dresses as a woman, means that he is non-binary character and possibly trans", which somehow means that in real life men can be women.

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Less controversial, the TMNT of course had the occasional environmental and anti-drug messages back in the day, too, so it's hardly new to them to do anything we now tend to lump together as being "political." We probably can't hope too much to see new series, comics, etc really remain free of it, but I'd hope that maybe it could just be passing things, that are easy to agree with or roll eyes at and move past it, rather than need to spotlight it. If people choose to be oversensitive about a passing thing in it that they don't agree with 100% of "political" things with a particular writer... well that's an optional hill to die on, I guess.
Its hard to not to notice or not to react, when political message dominates the narrative as in is the case with IDW series or with some changes in Rise and Mutant Mayhem.

Not to mention it is not a passing fad, but happens systematically for the last decade throughout the media and already killed or mutilated quite a lot of old franchises.

If you want people to pretend to be oblivious or blind, well, it speaks more about your position in life, rather than others.
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Old 01-13-2024, 03:38 PM   #8
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There is always the off-chance there is a brand new TMNT iteration that commands a lot of discussion and excitement. Though if it turns out said new TMNT iteration has one of the Turtles coming out and the citizens of NYC in it demanding to defund the police or something... guess what they will have unfortunately made us talk about?

For me, here's an example. TMNT x Stranger Things, the recent miniseries, #1-4. I was actually really stoked about this and it DELIVERED, and it was an official, brand new TMNT book that is totally politics free. And people don't want to talk about it here. I made a thread for #3 and nobody said sh**. I don't think a thread even exists for #4, the conclusion. So idk, man. We're all trying here in our own ways, I think.
Bingo.

Also, having checked out of everything turtles since the trash that was 'rise'...I had no idea this even existed.
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