This site needs cleaned up

[CyberCubed]

Coola may have left the forums for good because of this lol

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by shihe

Same. He seemed level headed to me. Similar even.

Tbh I came back to the forums cause I got tired of Twitter+Discord interactions. There's only so much unpleasant fanart of my favorite characters with a "flag" in the background (iykwim) I could take.

On the other hand, Facebook tmnt fans believe 1987 was were TMNT peaked (even though I loved this version), they're extremely narrow minded, so they're no good either.

So I recalled the forums. Had a great time in the past. I hoped it somehow stayed a sanctuary from this political war.

Seems like it hasn't, but at least, I won't have to put up with crap like Leo and Usagi ships fanart spam.

The Discord for this place is like 10 people maximum and almost no discussion. Only Winters Eastern Asia TMNT merchandise and gifs. I would go there but there is little point. I grew frustrated with Campbell’s run and I feel like Mirage fan boys towards the 1987 cartoon I love as it seems to be strangled by wakened and Gen Z teenage crap and nothing else. Not much for me aside from Saturday Morning Adventures and The Forever War. Peaking at Facebook people or Reddit I thought they were buying into that stuff. I liked Discord so I could blow off steam on Campbell who ruined my former favorite comic. This is it. We need to open the gates and see diverse eras and appreciation not hard-core leaning just one way and arguing without compromise likebwe are politicians.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Coola may have left the forums for good because of this lol

Which is to say, sadly, "over nothing."

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Coola may have left the forums for good because of this lol

This is the most insane thing about it to me. Permabanned members ban evading years after the fact and then openly admitting to it? That's just Tuesday around here for some reason. But Coola's gone? Wild.

Sounds like he's been considering it for awhile though. It's hard to discuss TMNT when 99% of all new content is the worst sh*t ever. That leaves Current Events, which is a hellhole. Both areas of the site have the same problem that it's mainly the same few members talking at each other about the same garbage over and over. Idk how you guys do it, you have more patience than I. I only check here anymore to lurk for crazy entertaining sh*t like this. They just don't make Internets like this anymore.

Could this be fixed if new members didn't have to wait several months to get their accounts activated by admins that swing by once every year or so? I assume spam/ban evasion is why this rule was implemented but it seems to me it doesn't discourage either very much. Maybe forums as a medium are just obsolete, but I frequent other niche forums and they're not as dead as this. But that may be a topic for another thread.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

This is the most insane thing about it to me. Permabanned members ban evading years after the fact and then openly admitting to it? That's just Tuesday around here for some reason. But Coola's gone? Wild.

Sounds like he's been considering it for awhile though. It's hard to discuss TMNT when 99% of all new content is the worst sh*t ever. That leaves Current Events, which is a hellhole. Both areas of the site have the same problem that it's mainly the same few members talking at each other about the same garbage over and over. Idk how you guys do it, you have more patience than I. I only check here anymore to lurk for crazy entertaining sh*t like this. They just don't make Internets like this anymore.

Could this be fixed if new members didn't have to wait several months to get their accounts activated by admins that swing by once every year or so? I assume spam/ban evasion is why this rule was implemented but it seems to me it doesn't discourage either very much. Maybe forums as a medium are just obsolete, but I frequent other niche forums and they're not as dead as this. But that may be a topic for another thread.

There are some exceptions, when it comes to forums, which are still alive and kicking, but by far and large Forums are dead, sadly. Maybe someday they will return, but unlikely. I don't see people giving up Reddit and Discord (even though I find both platforms extremely clunky and unwieldy to me).

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Sumac

There are some exceptions, when it comes to forums, which are still alive and kicking, but by far and large Forums are dead, sadly. Maybe someday they will return, but unlikely. I don't see people giving up Reddit and Discord (even though I find both platforms extremely clunky and unwieldy to me).

This isnt exactly true as Im on a few other large forums that are incredibly active. The problem here though, before all the political bullsh*t that came about, was that a lot of people were hypocritical of anything TMNT related for a good bit, whether it be the Bay turtles, or the Nick cartoons, and if you liked any of it you were criticized for it. People who wanted to come here talking Turtles were turned off by that. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'll consider it.

Three people here have my email and one of them just caused me a huge bunch of hassle. I am strongly considering a full Block of anyone who retains active membership on this forum.

Maybe you'll get lucky sooner or later. But I am not in a giving vein this day.

Really missed having you here, Leo.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

This isnt exactly true as Im on a few other large forums that are incredibly active. The problem here though, before all the political bullsh*t that came about, was that a lot of people were hypocritical of anything TMNT related for a good bit, whether it be the Bay turtles, or the Nick cartoons, and if you liked any of it you were criticized for it. People who wanted to come here talking Turtles were turned off by that. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

Even, if it was the case, I'd say the problem was with those users - if you come into a public space and someone doesn't like your opinion - stomach it and don't pretend to be offended.

I am fairly sure a some of my ideas about TMNT won't find a lot of support here from oldies, but it doesn't discourage me from posting here. Its just one of the facets of being here, after all.

People has become too fragile and snowflakey - they expect that everyone will support them and their opinions out of "compassion"? IDK.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Really missed having you here, Leo.

You're probably the only one lol. Nobody misses a dude who belittled others with every post and then wished they were all dead.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

You're probably the only one lol. Nobody misses a dude who belittled others with every post and then wished they were all dead.

Yup.
Especially giving his last few posts.
Guy burns bridges better than a drunk SJW on Twitter.

[sdp]

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by sdp

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the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.

YYYYup. Typical topic of the Drome, otherwise:

"Do you think that Shredder ever poked himself with his armor? Maybe?"
or even better
"What food do you eat that might be noodles but is actually fish instead? Maybe?"

And to your other points - well said. Oh God, don't get me started - leftist life-angry clowns who, when met with any resistance, rely on calling people "extreme right" or "racists". And SDP, I don't know why you post here at all to be completely honest. You cheerled that you left and how all of the "good users" were driven off to Discord with you. -shrugs- Go with them, bro. It's cool, we understand.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

You're probably the only one lol. Nobody misses a dude who belittled others with every post and then wished they were all dead.

Well, I miss Leo's presence as well. I think he gave thought provoking well written responses.

I think he always presented his arguments well and backed up his thoughts.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

the Political topics are the only thing keeping this place afloat.

what's bringing people back?

Same old re issues done 20 times?

A franchise that refuses to move past fred wolf, and evolve in a natural way like 2k3?

A franchise owner that doesn't understand what it bought, and 2k12 will likely be the last 'good' thing we'll ever get?

Same fandom topics brought up again, ad nauseum?

This is one of the few places (after chasing a few mods away that wouldn't let free speech reign) where you CAN talk common sense...like X (Formerly twitter), and that's valuable too alot of sane folks in a world of insanity.

There is always the off-chance there is a brand new TMNT iteration that commands a lot of discussion and excitement. Though if it turns out said new TMNT iteration has one of the Turtles coming out and the citizens of NYC in it demanding to defund the police or something... guess what they will have unfortunately made us talk about?

For me, here's an example. TMNT x Stranger Things, the recent miniseries, #1-4. I was actually really stoked about this and it DELIVERED, and it was an official, brand new TMNT book that is totally politics free. And people don't want to talk about it here. I made a thread for #3 and nobody said sh**. I don't think a thread even exists for #4, the conclusion. So idk, man. We're all trying here in our own ways, I think.

[IndigoErth]

Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?

Less controversial, the TMNT of course had the occasional environmental and anti-drug messages back in the day, too, so it's hardly new to them to do anything we now tend to lump together as being "political." We probably can't hope too much to see new series, comics, etc really remain free of it, but I'd hope that maybe it could just be passing things, that are easy to agree with or roll eyes at and move past it, rather than need to spotlight it. If people choose to be oversensitive about a passing thing in it that they don't agree with 100% of "political" things with a particular writer... well that's an optional hill to die on, I guess.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

There is always the off-chance there is a brand new TMNT iteration that commands a lot of discussion and excitement. Though if it turns out said new TMNT iteration has one of the Turtles coming out and the citizens of NYC in it demanding to defund the police or something... guess what they will have unfortunately made us talk about?

For me, here's an example. TMNT x Stranger Things, the recent miniseries, #1-4. I was actually really stoked about this and it DELIVERED, and it was an official, brand new TMNT book that is totally politics free. And people don't want to talk about it here. I made a thread for #3 and nobody said sh**. I don't think a thread even exists for #4, the conclusion. So idk, man. We're all trying here in our own ways, I think.

Bingo.

Also, having checked out of everything turtles since the trash that was 'rise'...I had no idea this even existed.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?

because, back then, it was done for LAUGHS. and even then, I never found that kind of stuff funny, more creepy. THESE days, it wouldn't be allowed to be done for laughs. Lola would be erased, and Bugs would become the new Lola....and spouting all kind of nonsense...while LEGITEMATLY trying to get in bed with Fudd.

THAT is the difference.

and i'm shocked this even needs to be pointed out these days.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Let's be honest, it's hardly anything new that political or social messages and/or commentary show up in cartoons, etc. and, for example, the already old Bugs Bunny episodes we watched as kids had plenty of it. Heck, he even dressed as a woman occasionally and no one batted an eye. And not even as a "emasculating" joke, but as an opposite gender stereotype trying to trick another character via seduction. Would people crap their pants if that was in a modern cartoon?

Because, it was played for laughs and no-one in their right mind would have said: "Bug Bunny is non-binary character and the fact that he occasionally dresses as a woman, means that he is non-binary character and possibly trans", which somehow means that in real life men can be women.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Less controversial, the TMNT of course had the occasional environmental and anti-drug messages back in the day, too, so it's hardly new to them to do anything we now tend to lump together as being "political." We probably can't hope too much to see new series, comics, etc really remain free of it, but I'd hope that maybe it could just be passing things, that are easy to agree with or roll eyes at and move past it, rather than need to spotlight it. If people choose to be oversensitive about a passing thing in it that they don't agree with 100% of "political" things with a particular writer... well that's an optional hill to die on, I guess.

Its hard to not to notice or not to react, when political message dominates the narrative as in is the case with IDW series or with some changes in Rise and Mutant Mayhem.

Not to mention it is not a passing fad, but happens systematically for the last decade throughout the media and already killed or mutilated quite a lot of old franchises.

If you want people to pretend to be oblivious or blind, well, it speaks more about your position in life, rather than others.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Coola may have left the forums for good because of this lol

Coola left? Really? I know I lurk here every once in a while when I'm not busy with stuff, but dang! He didn't even mention that to me and we talk every now and then. Guess he forgot to mention it. It would be weird hopping onto the forum and not seeing his smart allecky posts.