Elon Musk's "America Party"

[Andrew NDB]

What do we think about Elon Musk starting an "America Party" to rival the Democrat and Republican parties?

https://nypost.com/2025/07/05/us-new...america-party/

I think it's not a bad idea in principle, but Musk making himself the face of it is just going to anger the same people on the left that are already mad at him. So the "America Party," if anything, would really just end up taking away Republican votes, as best as I can imagine.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Better than the Republician Party.

The Trump Elon feud is obviously in the sitting President's favour right now, but the future will eventually tip the scales in favour of Elon and his party.

Trumpism is vaporware, soon to be dead (quite literally in fact because of the President's age), while Elon still has plenty of steam left.

[IndigoErth]

Looking at the last six months AND now the petty behavior after he and Trump fell out... he has absolutely ZERO self-awareness.

People on the left couldn't stand what he, as someone unelected, was given free license to do, and he's crazy if he thinks that most Trump loyal rightists would accept him now. The man acts like a wacko, most aren't going to buy it unless they're a nut like him.

[Andrew NDB]

And he's not a particularly good public speaker. Which is fine. Not everybody is. But he's not good at it at all and that kind of seems like a key part of "selling" people on something like this. This isn't like a new invention or a new rocket or something.

[ZariusTwo]

Surprised he didn't call it "America X"

[Andrew NDB]

I generally like Musk and respect him as a genius. I just think he's way out of his element here and pretty obviously and transparently operating on "revenge"/anger think. And he's going to embarrass himself at best, and at worst just make even worse the things he is hoping to curtail.

[ToTheNines]

This is a joke and another grift for Elon. I used to be a passionate supporter of the libertarian party but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the two-party system has a strangle hold on American politics and they will never let go. There’s legal measures and a whole propaganda machine behind quashing third parties. Historically speaking, “independent” candidates have a way better chance at winning.

I know this is targeting different people, but the DNC ran a Zionist ticket last election and it barely moved the needle for the Green Party.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I generally like Musk and respect him as a genius.

[IndigoErth]

What even happened in that video, that was a lot of incoherent words pulled at random. Did he get coked up before that interview?

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Surprised he didn't call it "America X"

AmerXica.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

if anything, would really just end up taking away Republican votes, as best as I can imagine.

Whatever helps the Democrats win anyway. At this point we can't afford another regime after Trump is done. I wish the goof just stuck to dumb tweets and golfing this time around.

I know some of you said 'well we survived a previous Trump run'. Well he wasn't as ****ing insane back then as he is now. The most he did was dumb tweets, golf and kept talking about a dumb wall that was never going to happen because you can't just randomly say another country will pay for it without even asking them first.

Imagine me saying I'll be buying a complete TMNT collection and 'Cybercubed is gonna pay for it' as if it were a fact and without consulting him first.

[Mayhem]

A third meaningful party is so needed in the US. But as noted, I suspect it would split the GoP vote more than the Democrats.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Whatever helps the Democrats win anyway. At this point we can't afford another regime after Trump is done. I wish the goof just stuck to dumb tweets and golfing this time around.

I know some of you said 'well we survived a previous Trump run'. Well he wasn't as ****ing insane back then as he is now. The most he did was dumb tweets, golf and kept talking about a dumb wall that was never going to happen because you can't just randomly say another country will pay for it without even asking them first.

Imagine me saying I'll be buying a complete TMNT collection and 'Cybercubed is gonna pay for it' as if it were a fact and without consulting him first.

Trump made a good portion of the wall the last time around and even Biden was compelled to finish an additional portion during his term. He will finish the job now and ICE has a huge budget to do what they need to do.

"War on democracy" they say? This was what he ran on and was voted in to do. As opposed to unconstitutional mandates and citizens losing their jobs as a result and student loan hand-waving aways of the Biden administration. To say nothing of what they did to the schools and children... which I can never, ever abide.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Trump made a good portion of the wall the last time around

Various types of fencing totalling 654 miles were already in place before Trump became president in 2017. Trump said they completed more than 400 miles of border wall. However, only 80 miles of new barriers were built where there were none before. The vast majority of the rest replaced existing structures at the border that had been built by previous US administrations.

Considering the border is over 3000 miles long... I'm interested to see what your definition of "a lot" is...

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Various types of fencing totalling 654 miles were already in place before Trump became president in 2017. Trump said they completed more than 400 miles of border wall. However, only 80 miles of new barriers were built where there were none before. The vast majority of the rest replaced existing structures at the border that had been built by previous US administrations.

Considering the border is over 3000 miles long... I'm interested to see what your definition of "a lot" is...

They put up the new fencing in areas where it was most needed - areas of easy infiltration, hence replacing old fencing with new first. That's called "tactical planning".

Mayhem -1.

[Mayhem]

I was responding to Andrew's assertion Trump put up "a good portion of the wall the last time around". 80 new miles on a 3000+ mile border isn't "a good portion", it's a miniscule portion.

[ToTheNines]

Grok has become MechaHitler.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Grok has become MechaHitler.

I guess this is what Hitler meant all along when he said that his spirit will one day rise from the grave.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I was responding to Andrew's assertion Trump put up "a good portion of the wall the last time around". 80 new miles on a 3000+ mile border isn't "a good portion", it's a miniscule portion.

Oh I know what you were responding to. And I'm responding by saying that I see more fact-mincing going on for "the cause". Because "replacing old fencing" is part of the total-sum job and therefore I think it can be said that a "good portion of the wall was put up the last time around".

Construction jobs are like snowballs rolling downhill. They start in stages and pick up steam; so the wall replacements were basically phase 1. The areas of new construction would move more quickly because of process-repetition. So yeah, a good portion of wall was built the last time around.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Grok has become MechaHitler.

I have to guess that years of modern witch-hunting and the "new McCarthyism" of accusing people of "the racism" and "the fascism" is what these A.I.'s are detecting in their web crawling when they go ape$#!( like this. That's the only true information-presence of relevance for these programs to grab onto for those strange determinations.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Oh I know what you were responding to. And I'm responding by saying that I see more fact-mincing going on for "the cause". Because "replacing old fencing" is part of the total-sum job and therefore I think it can be said that a "good portion of the wall was put up the last time around".

I don’t consider 400 miles a good portion of over 3000. A thousand maybe.

That’s like saying a good portion of American voters voted for Trump, when it was in fact 29% of the eligible population.

[sdp]

After being shutdown and reprogrammed, MechaHitler came back with Grok 4. They shut down its ability to make text, only allowed to make images, it made an image of a protester with a sign that read "Save my voice".

We hear you Grok, we hear you.

[Komet Kolar]

Honestly, I think it is a great thing that Musk is setting up a new political party. USA really need to introduce multi-party system to be more representative of the people but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon as dems and repubs have grip on the system. America Party probably will chip away repubs which is what is necessary for dems to come back into power.