Minnesota shooting

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Daytona

This exactly.

I mean there are more shootings than you hear about - bc there are many people here. The ones you do hear about however are chosen and highlighted to form specific narratives and covered only when useful.

This is because, by whatever means, our mainstream forms of media and entertainment have essentially been commandeered by the Democratic Party.

Exactly, but we aren't supposed to address that on these forums. Which I often do address and "they" don't like it.

The U.S. criticisms about shootings from people outside the U.S. is the easiest of low-hanging fruit to attack our society with. And in many ways, rightfully so - school shootings and Chicago-culture related to violence are a mess. But there are a variety of reasons that people can gaslight Americans when addressing these issues.

-Ratios involving the size of the U.S. to violence (i.e. Germany is roughly only the size of Montana, so in that example you are talking about a proportion of violence that doesn't even remotely include an equally large "melting pot" of people, let alone the size of the U.S. And any melting pot of culture that is arising in Germany is causing a ton of social-issues from increased immigration)

-Metric reporting (Andrew tackled this one nicely above)

-Or how about prolific news? Other nations file reports about what happens in the U.S. probably 30 to 1 what the U.S. reports about social-news going on around the rest of the world. In many cases 48% of foreigners follow news about the U.S. I guarantee that half of America doesn't follow news about the raging violence and homelessness in France or the fact that 32% of women have experienced physical, sexual, or psychological violence in Germany. 32%. In a country the size of Montana.

And there are several more points I could add to this as well. Basically, this forum sees an amount of U.S. vitriol from members who are counting on "blind arguments" on a regular basis. It's gaslighting at it's finest from people in countries who hide the hell out of their raging problems while pointing fingers at alleged failures of the U.S.

Once again, evidence that they are disingenuous. Don't believe them because the agenda shines through. America is the greatest country on Earth, but our dirty laundry gets aired out in front of a world that counts on Americans not scrutinizing them back. It's the oldest tactic of angry smaller-guys who are "punching upward" in the playbook.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Exactly, but we aren't supposed to address that on these forums. Which I often do address and "they" don't like it.

The U.S. criticisms about shootings from people outside the U.S. is the easiest of low-hanging fruit to attack our society with. And in many ways, rightfully so - school shootings and Chicago-culture related to violence are a mess. But there are a variety of reasons that these kinds of events are apparently more prolific than other countries.

-Ratios involving the size of the U.S. to violence (i.e. Germany is roughly only the size of Montana so the proportion of violence needs to be distilled down a city that isn't even remotely the melting pot of the United States)
-Metric reporting (Andrew tackled this one nicely above)
-Or how about prolific news? Other nations file reports about what happens in the U.S. probably 30 to 1 what the U.S. reports about social-news going on around the rest of the world. In many cases 48% of foreigners follow news about the U.S. I guarantee that half of America doesn't follow news about the raging violence and homelessness in France or the fact that 32% of women have experienced physical, sexual, or psychological violence in Germany

Basically, this forum has a significant amount of U.S. vitriol from members who are counting on "blind arguments" on a regular basis. It's gaslighting at it's finest from people in countries who hide the hell out of their raging problems while pointing fingers at alleged failures of the U.S.

Once again, evidence that they are disingenuous. Don't believe them because the agenda shines through.

I think the main reason other countries are so quick to point out America's problems is due to how overly arrogant we are in telling anyone that would listen how great we are and how our country is the best in the world. People love to see arrogance fall.

I remember back in the day reports showed third world countries literally dancing in the streets after 9/11 as a kind of 'ha-ha, the oh so great America isn't so invincible after all' kind of sentiment.

I mean the argument can be made that the US is the best country in the world but we gain nothing in being arrogant boastful pricks about it.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

I was informed by conservatives that prayer in school is why things like this happen. Does this mean god hates catholics?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I don't know man, I find it tasteless how the discussion around the shooting immediately turned into a culture war, mere minutes after the attack.

I'm as radical right as they get here, and I absolutely detest liberal ideology and everything it leads to, but did the shooter really do what they did because of being trans? I don't think so.

There are plenty of trans people who would never do something like this, and blaming transgenderism for the attack is unfair to those individuals as well as those people who ideologically oppose transgenderism for more nuanced reasons than "they beccummm killllerrrzzzz"

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I don't know man, I find it tasteless how the discussion around the shooting immediately turned into a culture war, mere minutes after the attack.

That’s every single time. Like clockwork.

*mass shooting happens*

All the libtards: You just know he was white! We need gun control NOW!

Every MAGA Unc: Guarantee you the shooter was a Muslim or trans!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Kinda petty to immediately jump on the culture war politics of something like this.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I don't know man, I find it tasteless how the discussion around the shooting immediately turned into a culture war

I would argue that this shooting itself is an act of war, and of the very worst kind... against a culture they don't like or feel alienated by/superior to. Is it not?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I would argue that this shooting itself is an act of war, and of the very worst kind... against a culture they don't like or feel alienated by/superior to. Is it not?

First of all I think you’re using a very generous definition of “war”. I would not say the occasional idiot with a death wish acting alone in killing a single digit amount of people is “war”.

Mass shooters come from various demographics. A few have been trans in the past five years. What are you suggesting? Trans people should be further ostracized and shunned? That will make things better?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by TMNT is cooler than MOTU

I was informed by conservatives that prayer in school is why things like this happen. Does this mean god hates catholics?

Everyone has to insert their agenda. Even Catholic schools have bullying. They just hide it from the staff whereas the hoodrat ghetto clowns will mouth to the teacher directly.