Tekken 8

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As far as I'm concerned I'm not sure why in 2025 there needs to be "missing" fighters in sequels to fighting games. Or at least just make them DLC right off the bat. You don't want Lei Wulong in the core game but I can spend $15 extra to download him? I won't be happy about that but I'll do it.

Ditto. It was like that in Smash for the Wii U and the 3DS. Fortunately Nintendo were less greedy with Ultimate and no longer forced us to pay for characters that have been in previous entries like Roy. They only force us to pay for character passes that included new fighters. In fact, the whole point of Ultimate is that "EVERYONE IS HERE!"

I'm not even a big Lei Wulong guy, but him not being in Tekken 8 is asinine. He's been a staple of the series since... Tekken 3, at least? And speaking of which, who's Tekken's face/MC? A lot of people assume Jin is... but he only debuted in T3. Before that, Kazuya was the poster boy. Unlike Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, King of Fighters and Virtua Fighter; Tekken doesn't seem to have a consistent MC...

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As far as I'm concerned I'm not sure why in 2025 there needs to be "missing" fighters in sequels to fighting games. Or at least just make them DLC right off the bat. You don't want Lei Wulong in the core game but I can spend $15 extra to download him? I won't be happy about that but I'll do it.

I agree, especially if the character is a staple or was already in the previous game.

I know sometimes it's a surprise to bring someone that's been missing for several games, but Lei Wulong is a horrible choice. He's been in every game since Tekken 2, and there is no storyline reason (death/missing) for him not to be on the base roster. Now someone like Bruce or Baek that have been missing for several games, those I get and would be a pleasant surprise for fans.

Another rule should be, if the character was already DLC in the last game, they either don't come back or if they do, they should be base roster. Leroy, Lidia and Fahkurahm were all DLC in Tekken 7, I have no idea why Leroy was base roster but you had to pay again for the other two.

Same for Dead or Alive where Mai, Nyotengu, Momiji, Rachael and Alpha were all paid DLC in DOA5... and then again in DOA6. But somehow the later additions to 5, Marie and Honoka were base roster in 6.

Originally Posted by Prowler

And speaking of which, who's Tekken's face/MC? A lot of people assume Jin is... but he only debuted in T3. Before that, Kazuya was the poster boy. Unlike Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, King of Fighters and Virtua Fighter; Tekken doesn't seem to have a consistent MC...

When it comes to Tekken it's usually the Mishimas. if we had to chose a face, it would have be Kazuya and Jin since they've been the main characters of most games.

Tekken 1 was Heihachi
Tekken 2 was Kayuza
Tekken 3 was Jin
Tekken 4 also Jin
Tekken 5 also Jin, I know Asuka made her debut but she had almost no involvement in the story
Tekken 6 more Kazuya though it can be argued that it's Kazuya/Jin
Tekken 7- pretty much Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin
Tekken 8- Reina though I'm sure also Kazuya and Jin

[IMJ]

This convo really makes me wish there'd be a Tekken 1-3 remaster package or something like that....

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

When it comes to Tekken it's usually the Mishimas. if we had to chose a face, it would have be Kazuya and Jin since they've been the main characters of most games.

Tekken 1 was Heihachi
Tekken 2 was Kayuza
Tekken 3 was Jin
Tekken 4 also Jin
Tekken 5 also Jin, I know Asuka made her debut but she had almost no involvement in the story
Tekken 6 more Kazuya though it can be argued that it's Kazuya/Jin
Tekken 7- pretty much Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin
Tekken 8- Reina though I'm sure also Kazuya and Jin

And here's who canonically "won" the different King of Iron Fist Tournaments:

T1: Kazuya Mishima.
T2: Heihachi Mishima.
T3: Jin Kazama (defeats Ogre, though Paul Phoenix technically beat Ogre first).
T4: Kazuya Mishima.
T5: Jin Kazama (defeats his grandfather, Jinpachi Mishima).
T6: None (Tournament was canceled due to Jin's disappearance).
T7: None (Tournament was canceled due to Heihachi being declared dead).
T8: None (Tournament was canceled due to an attack from the UN & Yggdrasil).

Originally Posted by IMJ

This convo really makes me wish there'd be a Tekken 1-3 remaster package or something like that....

Tekken All-Stars Vol. 1 (Tekken 1-3 + Tekken Tag 1) + Tekken All-Stars Vol. 2 (Tekken 4-6 + Tekken Tag 2) is the way to go!

[Prowler]

The arcade versions of the first 3 Tekken games are in Tekken 5. That was pretty cool back in 2005 or whenever T5 came out.

But honestly, Tekken is fine and all but it's quite surprising it used to sell so well back in the PS1-PS2 days compared to Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. I don't think Tekken ever managed to influence pop culture as much as SF and MK have. Everybody can name SF and MK characters and a couple of special moves form those games. You even had the SF car bonus stage making it into a commercial many years ago. Can anyone that's not a gamer name a single Tekken character or special move?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Tekken All-Stars Vol. 1 (Tekken 1-3 + Tekken Tag 1) + Tekken All-Stars Vol. 2 (Tekken 4-6 + Tekken Tag 2) is the way to go!

Really?
What system was that for?
I'm a recovering "gamer" dude. I saw myself out of it YEARS ago in any meaningful way.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Really?
What system was that for?
I'm a recovering "gamer" dude. I saw myself out of it YEARS ago in any meaningful way.

Oh no, I was just dreaming there. But there's no good reason we couldn't have that, and pretty quickly. If Namco was Konami we might still be on Tekken 7 but we'd probably have like 6 different collections of all the Tekken games by now.

[Prowler]

The thing about fighting game collections... you gotta have online since the competitive scene is a crucial part of fighting games. That requires a good online and match-making service.

The 90s 2D Street Fighter and KOF games can easily be played on Fightcade and SF also has an anniversary collection that lets you play Super Turbo, 3rd Strike and Alpha 3 online. Possibly Champion Edition too idk.

Tekken 3 and 5 would definitely need online play. T1 most likely not. T2... perhaps. No idea about T4.

[Andrew NDB]

I should look into emulating the Tekkens. It really is bizarre there is no "normal" way to play Tekken 1-6 on modern machines.