Avengers 5: Doomsday

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Wait, what? Is this real? Stewart and McKellen AGAIN??? WHY?

Originally Posted by Barkworm

How many send offs do they need? Stewart's Xavier has died at least three times already.

I was perfectly OK to never see any trace of the Fox-Men ever again, like a faded, mostly bad memory. But I think this is less another goodbye to the Fox-Men as it just is Marvel/Disney wanting to play with the toys they bought from Fox at least one time before they make their own versions of them.

[IMJ]

I was alright never seeing them again too - the FoX-Men are generally the most dragged-out awfulness, surpassed only by the SPONY-Man universe.

The first two Singer X-Flicks got by first on "FINALLY, the X-Men onscreen" and then by "FINALLY: Wolverine goes ape$#!( onscreen!"

After that, people just went to go see all of those movies out of unrealized hope and the occasional neat concept here or there within a series of otherwise crummy movies that didn't really reflect the source material very well - or at least how fans wanted.

But on the other hand, it could be really cool finally getting to see these guys on camera with some sense of great accuracy and more iconic moments.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I was perfectly OK to never see any trace of the Fox-Men ever again, like a faded, mostly bad memory. But I think this is less another goodbye to the Fox-Men as it just is Marvel/Disney wanting to play with the toys they bought from Fox at least one time before they make their own versions of them.

But they've already done that, at least twice. Enough already.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

But they've already done that, at least twice. Enough already.

Not fully. The reshoot scene in Doctor Strange 2 wasn't much of anything. They haven't really done anything else with the Fox-Men beyond Deadpool 3.

[sdp]

People are nostalgic about the Fox Men and no "correct" version of the MCU will ever top it, just how Sony's Spider-Mans will forever be the 'real' live action spidey for most and not the MCU one. So yeah of course they'll bring them back, no one is going to care for recast Wolverine/Professor X/etc. It doesn't matter that the movies weren't perfect, people can forgive that if they see the actors they love. Casuals don't care about the story implications or whatever and since they can hand wave it as "it's the multiverse" no one cares anymore.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by sdp

People are nostalgic about the Fox Men and no "correct" version of the MCU will ever top it, just how Sony's Spider-Mans will forever be the 'real' live action spidey for most and not the MCU one. So yeah of course they'll bring them back, no one is going to care for recast Wolverine/Professor X/etc. It doesn't matter that the movies weren't perfect, people can forgive that if they see the actors they love. Casuals don't care about the story implications or whatever and since they can hand wave it as "it's the multiverse" no one cares anymore.

That's a bit of cliche-rationale dude.

Honestly, I've never met a single person who is a "Fox X-Men or Toby McGuire Spider-Man purist". I think it's more about "wish fulfillment" for those of us who were there when those movies were still new. Neither franchise wrapped up in any kind of satisfying manner, so there's not only a sense of "nostalgia", but also a great sense of "unfinished business" stemming from both. Obviously "No Way Home" went a long way for Toby, but X-Men are still languishing.

[ZariusTwo]

X-Men is like Highlander...should have been only one, and if there had to have been a second and third one, it should have just been Days of Future Past and Logan.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

X-Men is like Highlander...should have been only one, and if there had to have been a second and third one, it should have just been Days of Future Past and Logan.

"The Wolverine" was pretty solid....

I mean, honestly what do we have from Fox that was GREAT?

The Wolverine
Logan
Deadpool & Wolverine

After that you have "decent enough....":

X2
Days of Future Past
Deadpool

and then after that literally everything falls into some various category of "garbage" to "viewable garbage"...

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by IMJ

"The Wolverine" was pretty solid....

I mean, honestly what do we have from Fox that was GREAT?

The Wolverine
Logan
Deadpool & Wolverine

After that you have "decent enough....":

X2
Days of Future Past
Deadpool

and then after that literally everything falls into some various category of "garbage" to "viewable garbage"...

Deadpool and Wolverine was marvel studios not fox

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Deadpool and Wolverine was marvel studios not fox

I mean.... -sigh-

Yeah man, you're right.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

"The Wolverine" was pretty solid....

Oh yeah, I liked that one too, though I've only ever seen it once.

Deadpool I'll give you also, I saw that three times, but that's another I find should have been one and done. It was the little engine that could, and from then on just became part of the machine.

[ranger_scout]

This is a good teaser, but it's still hard to understand why James Marsden is allowed to return as Scott Summers/Cyclops after he publicly defended a man, Brian Peck,who sexually abused a child actor, Drake Bell, in court and has yet to publicly apologize for doing it. Even if he didn't know about it, although I think he clearly did, he should still apologize to Bell and condemn Peck for his actions.

https://x.com/avengers/status/2008539279476265286

[ZariusTwo]

The next Doomsday trailer has now leaked. Getting lots of takedowns, but it was in much better quality than the bootleg X-Men one

[Andrew NDB]

I'm hearing these things leak every week and I can't really be bothered to watch them. I'll watch them when they're out officially and in good quality, or not. Meh.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm hearing these things leak every week and I can't really be bothered to watch them. I'll watch them when they're out officially and in good quality, or not. Meh.

The X-Men one is out officially on most Marvel accounts on social media. I mean... it's fine. Again - movie built on wish fulfillment - seeing more nostalgia characters portrayed through the modern lens.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm hearing these things leak every week and I can't really be bothered to watch them. I'll watch them when they're out officially and in good quality, or not. Meh.

https://youtube.com/@marvel?si=NAy06n_CuNIOhB3R

Marvel’s official YouTube has the first 3.

I saw a good quality LEAK of the fourth one on Reddit.

Spoiler:

Shuri narrated. M’Baku introduces himself to The Thing, who awkwardly returns the favor.

[ranger_scout]

Despite the mixed and negative receptions of X-Men: Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix, respectively, I think it would've been better if Tye Sheridan had returned as Scott Summers/Cyclops instead of James Marsden. Sheridan is a great young actor.

Here is the new trailer for people to look at here.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

The X-Men one is out officially on most Marvel accounts on social media. I mean... it's fine. Again - movie built on wish fulfillment - seeing more nostalgia characters portrayed through the modern lens.

For me it's like, "What if those old X-Men movies with their cast were brought into the modern age of comic book movies and made SUPER COOL and comic book faithful?"

But I don't care about that. I never liked those movies to begin with and I don't care about seeing them again, in any form. Ever. Better to leave them firmly in the past and cross a lot of fingers that Marvel doesn't screw up their actual MCU version of them down the road. We don't need to revisit the Fox-Men in the present. Like, at all.

Maybe an "Old Man Blade" sequel with Snipes would pique my interest, but I can't imagine really anything else doin so.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

For me it's like, "What if those old X-Men movies with their cast were brought into the modern age of comic book movies and made SUPER COOL and comic book faithful?"

But I don't care about that. I never liked those movies to begin with and I don't care about seeing them again, in any form. Ever. Better to leave them firmly in the past and cross a lot of fingers that Marvel doesn't screw up their actual MCU version of them down the road. We don't need to revisit the Fox-Men in the present. Like, at all.

Maybe an "Old Man Blade" sequel with Snipes would pique my interest, but I can't imagine really anything else doin so.

I agree with all of this.

If it was me, I might throw them in there for a short bit just to kill them all or otherwise send them off. But the fact that the ****ing Fox-Men are co-headlining an Avengers movie is just blowing my mind.

And the only one I think the general audience is remotely attached to is Jackman as Wolverine. But can we move on already? Jesus Christ, how many sendoffs does he need?

[Barkworm]

I'm almost scared to ask but... Jackman is going to be in this, isn't he?