Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES) - The Ultimate Enigma...

Hyper Metal Sonic · 02-29-2004, 10:29 PM

I was playing the original TMNT game on my NES today when I got to thinking...

"Exactly what is this based on?"

My first idea was the original comic, since the art on the cartridge (and thus, the box also) was much like the comic art. Also, alot of the in-game art is very mirage-ish.

Then, I found the van.

Unless I'm mistaken the fruity little turtle van was only in the TMNT cartoon...

Also, when you complete the game, Splinter turns back into his human form, also a trend taken from the cartoon.

So...huh? Which is it?

Edit: Two more points
1) Many of the enemies in the game I've never seen before in the cartoon. So either they're comic-based or exclusive to the game.

2) Bebop & Rocksteady are in the game.

Edit 2:
The art on the cartridge and box has all the turtles with red bandannas on, while the art in-game has the turtles wearing their own colors. (This also stands with TMNT III, so this reason is rather iffy.

EZweasel · 02-29-2004, 10:33 PM

its just a very good gamne.... the only good tmnt game there is out there.

*Coola Yagami* · 02-29-2004, 11:26 PM

cover- mirage
in game art and stuff- mirage
shredder in red- mirage
bebop, rocksteady, turtle van, turtle blimp, technodrome- the cartoon.

Hyper Metal Sonic · 02-29-2004, 11:29 PM

Perhaps they were making a comic-based game and about halfway through they decided to base it on the cartoon but were too lazy to go back and do all the art over again?

Ninja Tiptup · 03-01-2004, 01:28 AM

That sounds about right HMS.

It seems Konami took stuff from both Mirage and the cartoon and then threw in some original stuff to fill out the rest.

Jarvas · 03-01-2004, 10:57 PM

Why did Splinter return to being a human?

*Coola Yagami* · 03-01-2004, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarvas

Why did Splinter return to being a human?

same reason the game was full of walking eyeballs, fire people, weird leg hopping thingies and all sorts of weird crap.

Hyper Metal Sonic · 03-01-2004, 11:58 PM

And giant frogs, don't forget them....and the giant mosquitos...

Seriously, what the hell where the designers at Konami smoking when they developed this game?

*tOkKa* · 03-02-2004, 02:43 AM

-->> The Box Art from the game was a favourite painting of the Mirage guys..
it's also the cover art on the reprint TMNT vol.1 # 4 ..
..Mike Dooney's painted work has always been real cool//

.. i don't think they even worried about the bandana colour issue when they chose the painting for the box art on the game..

..it's just a damm cool picture!!

..and Konami developers weren't smoking when they designed the game..

.. they just had a lot of compressed air on hand..

..huff n' puff!!

Halfshell · 03-02-2004, 02:55 AM

Ultra made this first game as well as the second, Konmai didnt come in until TMNT3 Manhattan Project

trez · 03-02-2004, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfshell

Ultra made this first game as well as the second, Konmai didnt come in until TMNT3 Manhattan Project

Ultra Games is a pseudonym. They're the same company.

Hyper Metal Sonic · 03-02-2004, 09:12 PM

Ultra Games was simply an offshoot or division or whatever of Konami so that they could produce more games a year. (I believe there was a limit to how many you could release in a years time)

Edit: Yeah, I found it. Nintendo's rules in the late 80s-early 90s were that no developer were to release more than 5 games a year. So Konami started a another company, named it Ultra, and managed to sneak 10 games in per year. Acclaim did the same thing with the LJN company.

*Krutch* · 03-03-2004, 03:43 AM

All games were screwed up back then.....geesh, remember that one Star Wars game where the first level was in the Sandcrawler with a bunch of Jawas then you go into the boiler room and fight Darth Vader? Then when you killed him he turned into a giant scorpian and you had to fight him again??

THE-X-FLO · 03-03-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggalo

you go into the boiler room and fight Darth Vader? Then when you killed him he turned into a giant scorpian and you had to fight him again??

No

it can't be! that is pretty messed up.

Mr. Stay Puft · 03-07-2004, 01:15 PM

If you also noticed, on the box for "TMNT III: The Manhattan Project", the Turtles were fighting Triceratons, yet there wasn't a single reference to the Triceratons in any of the TMNT games.

Hyper Metal Sonic · 03-07-2004, 01:27 PM

That's another good point. Not to mention that also on that box they're in the mirage all-red masks.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-07-2004, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Metal Sonic

That's another good point. Not to mention that also on that box they're in the mirage all-red masks.

plus if you look carefully, Casey Jones is somewhere in the cover in the far background.

*Krutch* · 03-07-2004, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE-X-FLO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggalo

you go into the boiler room and fight Darth Vader? Then when you killed him he turned into a giant scorpian and you had to fight him again??

No

it can't be! that is pretty messed up.

i'll try and find a screen shot

Psycho Andy · 03-14-2004, 02:09 AM

Um, the turtles are NOT wearing red masks on the cover to TMNT III. Check it out:

http://www.davidsclazzic.com/images/SELL/NES/TMNT3.JPG

I dunno about you guys, but I see a purple-wearing Donatello, orange-sporting Michelangelo, and blue-masked Leonardo.

So, then I thought, "Well, maybe they mean on the actual game box." So I looked for that, using Google's image search, but I couldn't find a full-box image. I seem to remember the box having the exact same art as the cartridge, though.

Unless you were all referring to the first NES game, in which case I just made myself look like a fool. Ah well.

*tOkKa* · 03-14-2004, 02:27 AM

-->>

..The Pc Game ..Manhattan Missions ..came out about the same time as TMNT III ,Casey is in this game and you do fight Triceratons.. so..

.. the TMNT Genesis Games are gems..

..you already know you fight a Triceraton in this one..

..

.. and you knew a Triceraton is a boss in this one..

..maybe more Triceratons will show up in the new sequal..

02-29-2004, 10:29 PM	#1
Hyper Metal Sonic Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeastern Louisiana Posts: 786	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES) - The Ultimate Enigma... I was playing the original TMNT game on my NES today when I got to thinking... "Exactly what is this based on?" My first idea was the original comic, since the art on the cartridge (and thus, the box also) was much like the comic art. Also, alot of the in-game art is very mirage-ish. Then, I found the van. Unless I'm mistaken the fruity little turtle van was only in the TMNT cartoon... Also, when you complete the game, Splinter turns back into his human form, also a trend taken from the cartoon. So...huh? Which is it? Edit: Two more points 1) Many of the enemies in the game I've never seen before in the cartoon. So either they're comic-based or exclusive to the game. 2) Bebop & Rocksteady are in the game. Edit 2: The art on the cartridge and box has all the turtles with red bandannas on, while the art in-game has the turtles wearing their own colors. (This also stands with TMNT III, so this reason is rather iffy.

02-29-2004, 10:33 PM	#2
EZweasel Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 847	its just a very good gamne.... the only good tmnt game there is out there. __________________

03-01-2004, 01:28 AM	#5
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	That sounds about right HMS. It seems Konami took stuff from both Mirage and the cartoon and then threw in some original stuff to fill out the rest. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

03-02-2004, 02:43 AM	#9
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	-->> The Box Art from the game was a favourite painting of the Mirage guys.. it's also the cover art on the reprint TMNT vol.1 # 4 .. ..Mike Dooney's painted work has always been real cool// .. i don't think they even worried about the bandana colour issue when they chose the painting for the box art on the game.. ..it's just a damm cool picture!! ..and Konami developers weren't smoking when they designed the game.. .. they just had a lot of compressed air on hand.. ..huff n' puff!! __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

03-02-2004, 02:55 AM	#10
Halfshell Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Wouldn't U Like To Know Posts: 531	Ultra made this first game as well as the second, Konmai didnt come in until TMNT3 Manhattan Project __________________ "Post quickly and fade away into the shadow"

02-29-2004, 11:26 PM	#3
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	cover- mirage in game art and stuff- mirage shredder in red- mirage bebop, rocksteady, turtle van, turtle blimp, technodrome- the cartoon.

02-29-2004, 11:29 PM	#4
Hyper Metal Sonic Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeastern Louisiana Posts: 786	Perhaps they were making a comic-based game and about halfway through they decided to base it on the cartoon but were too lazy to go back and do all the art over again?

03-01-2004, 10:57 PM	#6
Jarvas Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	Why did Splinter return to being a human?

03-01-2004, 11:58 PM	#8
Hyper Metal Sonic Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeastern Louisiana Posts: 786	And giant frogs, don't forget them....and the giant mosquitos... Seriously, what the hell where the designers at Konami smoking when they developed this game?

03-02-2004, 09:12 PM	#12
Hyper Metal Sonic Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeastern Louisiana Posts: 786	Ultra Games was simply an offshoot or division or whatever of Konami so that they could produce more games a year. (I believe there was a limit to how many you could release in a years time) Edit: Yeah, I found it. Nintendo's rules in the late 80s-early 90s were that no developer were to release more than 5 games a year. So Konami started a another company, named it Ultra, and managed to sneak 10 games in per year. Acclaim did the same thing with the LJN company.

03-03-2004, 03:43 AM	#13
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	All games were screwed up back then.....geesh, remember that one Star Wars game where the first level was in the Sandcrawler with a bunch of Jawas then you go into the boiler room and fight Darth Vader? Then when you killed him he turned into a giant scorpian and you had to fight him again??

03-07-2004, 01:15 PM	#15
Mr. Stay Puft Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NH Posts: 580	If you also noticed, on the box for "TMNT III: The Manhattan Project", the Turtles were fighting Triceratons, yet there wasn't a single reference to the Triceratons in any of the TMNT games. __________________ And there came a day. A day unlike any other, when Earth’s mightiest heroes found themselves united against a common threat, to fight the foes no single superhero could withstand. On that day, the Avengers were born. R.I.P Chi Cheng and Jeff Hanneman

03-07-2004, 01:27 PM	#16
Hyper Metal Sonic Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeastern Louisiana Posts: 786	That's another good point. Not to mention that also on that box they're in the mirage all-red masks.

03-14-2004, 02:09 AM	#19
Psycho Andy Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Just outside Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 25	Um, the turtles are NOT wearing red masks on the cover to TMNT III. Check it out: http://www.davidsclazzic.com/images/SELL/NES/TMNT3.JPG I dunno about you guys, but I see a purple-wearing Donatello, orange-sporting Michelangelo, and blue-masked Leonardo. So, then I thought, "Well, maybe they mean on the actual game box." So I looked for that, using Google's image search, but I couldn't find a full-box image. I seem to remember the box having the exact same art as the cartridge, though. Unless you were all referring to the first NES game, in which case I just made myself look like a fool. Ah well. __________________ -Psycho Andy! Check out Psycho Andy's Website Extravaganza! And read Hawk and Croc: Heroes YOU can relate to! It's good for you.

03-14-2004, 02:27 AM	#20
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	-->> ..The Pc Game ..Manhattan Missions ..came out about the same time as TMNT III ,Casey is in this game and you do fight Triceratons.. so.. .. the TMNT Genesis Games are gems.. ..you already know you fight a Triceraton in this one.. .. .. and you knew a Triceraton is a boss in this one.. ..maybe more Triceratons will show up in the new sequal.. __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

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