best police/crime show

[damnhooligan]

Originally Posted by Anarky

In no particular order.[*]CSI: I don't know what makes me watch the shows whenever they're on TV, but I always feel greatly entertained by Gil, Horatio and their teams.

Do you get the dubbed version? Because an un-dubbed Horatio Caine is one of the more painful characters on TV to watch. Un-dubbed, he comes off as a self-important, portentously smarmy git. He broods, he draws his lines out, he saves the day, he singlehandedly apprehends suspects and I'm pretty sure he can fly and bite through steel cables with his bare teeth.

I can't watch that show anymore because of him and my growing detest for his his bloated Mary-Sueism.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by damnhooligan

Do you get the dubbed version? Because an un-dubbed Horatio Caine is one of the more painful characters on TV to watch. Un-dubbed, he comes off as a self-important, portentously smarmy git. He broods, he draws his lines out, he saves the day, he singlehandedly apprehends suspects and I'm pretty sure he can fly and bite through steel cables with his bare teeth.

I can't watch that show anymore because of him and my growing detest for his his bloated Mary-Sueism.

What on earth is Mary-Sueism? (Here we go again, DH is teaching me English. )

Anyways, we get the dubbed version, and Horatio isn't that bad in German. They got a rather good dub for him. He still saves the day on his own (of course), but it doesn't seem so omnipotent.

I have seen some episodes in English and he really does have a sort of "I am God"-thing going on.

And the whole series really does focus too much on him. I mean, I don't even know Speed's name, Delko's first name and who all those sidecharacters are.

[damnhooligan]

Originally Posted by Anarky

What on earth is Mary-Sueism? (Here we go again, DH is teaching me English. )

A Mary Sue (named after a character in a Star Trek fanfiction back in the 70s) is a character that's so supremely awesome, that all others pale in comparison to him/her. They save the day. They know the answer to all questions and people hang on their every word. They are usually stunningly beautiful. They are everything the author wishes they could be and more. Its mostly a term that's used in regards to fanfiction, but its being used elsewhere these days.

CSI: NY though. If you've not seen that, be sure to watch it if/when it gets there. Gary Sinise (who plays the head CSI in the show) is a shifty-eyed son of a bitch and I love him for it.

[Anarky]

Ookay... yeah, sort of applies to Horation in English. I often asked myself what Calleigh and the rest of the gang were good for.

CSINY is going to start soon (it was supposed to air on VOX in January 2005 but it apparently hasn't) And I won't miss it, that's for sure. There's almost nothing better than CSI to keep me entertained (TV-wise that is).

Talking about bastard-cops:

The Shield: Great show that was cancelled here after a few episodes. I never knew why but it was so damn interesting and Vic Mackey is such an a**hole. A very good show.

[Voltron]

Batman 1966. But I think that goes without saying.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Batman 1966. But I think that goes without saying.

There is one thing I noticed while watching that show: How many criminal activities does Gotham have at a time? And how useful is the GCP? But yeah, that was one great show.

And as for Mary Sue: For a good laugh

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Anarky

And as for Mary Sue: For a good laugh

BTW - the male version of Mary Sue is called Gary Stu (yep, the educational aspects of The Technodrome Forums are difficult to overvalue ).

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by damnhooligan

CSI: NY though. If you've not seen that, be sure to watch it if/when it gets there. Gary Sinise (who plays the head CSI in the show) is a shifty-eyed son of a bitch and I love him for it.

Whoa, that is one cool show. The first two episodes are just finished and I muist say, it finds a good balance between Las Vegas and Miami. Mac Taylor is a great inspector, but his dub is a bit messed up, he sounds rather monotone. Sort of "I am a Dalek... exterminate" ("Doctor Who" never was on German TV). But what I don't like about him, is that they made him the ultra-american. His motivation seems to be related to 9/11 and he is first seen inside a church. You couldn't put more cliché into him. Luckily, they dropped that stuff in the second episode. I understand that 9/11 had a huge impact on the US, but I'd feel offended if I get such a tragic event shoved down my throat over and over again.

Other than that: Great show!

[XERO]

Mine was New York Undercover.

[damnhooligan]

I was watching Without a Trace today, and forgot how pretty damn cool it is. For those of you who've never heard of it, it's a show about the FBI Missing Persons unit, and focuses on one case at a time.

The characters are fantastic, primarily because they're so well written and the actors themselves are finally given a good bit to work with. Anthony LaPaglia is quiet, brooding and entirely awesome. Marianne Jean-Baptiste, the classically trained Brit with the most dead-on American accent, is my favourite though. The show is about 75% case and 25% personal stories about the main characters, which I find makes for a better balance than CSI's 60% case, 20% cool music/science cut scenes and 20% "I've got a gambling problem!"/"I have the hots for my dead brother's wife!"/misc. drama.

[Jester]

I'm quite partial to the Law and Order series....as well as most CSI...and does Monk count?

[jeff the cheff]

I've always liked cops.