Best fighter of th Turtles?

[trexmaster]

I';; vote for Michelangelo, as his nunchaku are the most versatile of the TMNT weapons, being useful for defense (repelling attacks) AND offense (seriously, wooden rods spinning fast against your cheek would deliver SERIOUS discipline). Also, he's the fastest of the Turtles, and ninja need speed.

The worst (be warned, the following will be politically incorrect) is most likely either Donatello or Raphael. Donatello's weapon, though versatile, isn't particularly powerful. And although Raphael can stab with his sais, he's too stupid, like a brawling animal, to be an effective fighter.

[Sewer Bull]

Leonardo is considered to be the best fighter of them all. I think he's the most skilled and best trained one.
Yet I think Michelangelo is the most talented fighter - he won Big Brawl, for God's sake! Plus, in OS, he showed that he's able to even knock Leo over, when given a proper incentive (that means pizza).

[Blondus]

I vote for Michael.

I think trexmaster has elaborated that for me.

Though i do not agree on your statements regarding Dons bo staff. a wooden staff like that can deliver a great amount of damage.. the speed the tip of the bo staff is traveling in is very high, just as fast or even faster than mikeys nunchakos. Plus the bo staff wont bounce back as the nunchakos would. Believe me, being hit with a staff like that sends you to the ground in no time. Dont ask me how i know.

[GK Punk]

...I really tried to resist this time. But I can't.

Rob Van Dam is the best fighter.

[Rhane]

I think Leo is the "best" fighter at the moment. Mikey is really talented though and if he focused more he could beat leo.

Ok, first off, it's not about the weapon, it's about the fighter. Either way, Leo has the most leathal weapon.

Second, Leo is obviously the best fighter, always has been and will most likely always will be because of his commitment, discipline, and drive to be the best.

It's true that Mikey is the most agile, but Leo is right behind Mikey in that category, plus, Leo is also very cunning, an excellent strategist and tacticion, and has a natural affinity for warfare and such.

[MyNameSlash]

I vote Leonardo. He's the most disciplined and most focused.

[Weapon X]

Well, come on It's obviously Leo for reasons already expressed, he has the most commitment, discipline, and drive to be the best there is.

[Jester]

I concur....haven't you watched The Shredder Strikes? They we're all saying their weapon was the best, to which Splinter told them, "It is not the weapon that is important, but the arm that weilds it." I voted Leo because he's the most dedicated to the art and most willing to improve. Mikey won't practice, thinks there is no room for improvement.

The boys are all the best at their own thing. When it comes to combat, Leo is the best. It's as simple as that.

Honestly, to pick any of the others as the best fighter is just a biased attitude of favoritism rather than going by facts which have been presented to us for over 20 years.


Now, I love Mikey, and no offense to Mikey fans, but I just don't get why he got any votes. Yes, he's the most agile, but it takes a Hell of alot more than being quick on your feet to be a superb fighter. Leo is superb in all aspects of fighting. He's a natural fighter where as Mikey is simply a natural athlete.


EDIT: Oh, I see Raph got a vote as well. *shakes her head* See, this is why these types of polls are pointless. The choice is obvious yet people will go against facts and just choose their favorite turtle.

Next we're going to have a "Who's the best electronics technician" poll and some how there will be votes for Leo, Raph, and Mikey.

[Jester]

If the others were as dedicated as Leo...they'd be unstopable. They'd still have therr individual styles, but if they were all as focused and willing to better themselves, they'd be a "4 turtle wrecking crew."

[Benetello]

very true ryona but I think their all great fighters in their own way. I think the only time way raph is a good fighter is when he is mad or upset.

I agree, but fortunatly, they're not all going to be excellent at the same feild of interest. I like it like that because it makes each of them more unique that way.

Leo is the best fighter.

Donnie is the best electrical, scientific, and computer technician.

Raph is the best motorcycle driver (and most wittiest in the original series)

Mikey is the best athlete and comic.

I think the only time way raph is a good fighter is when he is mad or upset.

I disagree. He gets way to sloppy when he get's mad. He's much more dangerous and more effective as a fighter when he has a cool head.

Infact, in season four, Raph is much more stable and cool under fire, and it shows in combat situations. He's finally becoming a greater fighter than he was before, which is really good since he's been the most static with his progress from the rest of the boys.

[Jester]

If Raphie could keep his head, he might have a chance.
I see it this way:
Leo's best all around
Donnie's the most improvizational, can make things up on the fly'
Mikey's the most swift and agile
Raphie's the (Physically) strongest (and he relies on brute strength as opposed to tequnique, which make for his lose of control and defeat)

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Ryona

Next we're going to have a "Who's the best electronics technician" poll and some how there will be votes for Leo, Raph, and Mikey.

I wish there was a "Who's the best lover" poll. Sadly, no chances for that.

Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong. If Raph can really focus and keep cool, and with a little more disciplin, he can get as good as Leo. Infact, all the boys can be as good as Leo if they really aply their efforts to the level that Leo does. Though Leo has that heart of a warrior. Like I said, it's in him. It's his passion.

[Jester]

Agreed....now who's gonna make the "Best at wearing an Orange bandana?" Poll...

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by trexmaster

Donatello's weapon, though versatile, isn't particularly powerful.

Now here's something to try at home. Get a broom (I know you all have one) and then go out in the garden. Hold the stick on one end so that the brush is closest to your hands. Then you swing that DIY-Bo and let it hit the lawn. Then look at what you've made... a friggin hole in the ground! And if you consider two to three tons of pressure concentrated on one point tbo be not "particulary powerful", then I wonder what "particulary powerful" is.

Allthough there is situations where a bo is more or less useless. In narrow spaces for example.

Originally Posted by Ryona

It's true that Mikey is the most agile, but Leo is right behind Mikey in that category, plus, Leo is also very cunning, an excellent strategist and tacticion, and has a natural affinity for warfare and such.

Ehm... I dunno. Looking at the way the TMNT were brought up, I see that they were all taught the same thing, aside from weapons training (isn't that really obvious?). So the main reason is, why my vote goes to Leo too is that he's the one to actually use that training, being focused and not thinking of anything else. The others are all haven't really managed to get over their own selves.

Let's look at Mikey. He would probably be on a level with Leo, but (and that's a really big but) he's goofing around. So instead of focussing on a fight, he thinks of a witty thing to say or a funny move to do. His mind is not in the fight. It needs a really good reason for him to actually concentrate, to actually put his mind into the fight. His self pushes through.

If we look at Raph, we see that he lacks control over his anger (his self). He has enormous amounts of strength, but he forgets all the training when he's all "Grrahhh!".

Donnie is just a more peaceful nature, I see him not as a fighter like the others. Sure the others are more or less fighters, but Donnie isn't. He knows everything the others know as well, but he uses it completely different. Whereas Leo goes for the kill (as seen on numerous occasions), he even hesitates to injure. That's probably his weakest point.

To me, it's not about the weapon or the arm, it's about the mind.

Originally Posted by Ryona

The boys are all the best at their own thing. When it comes to combat, Leo is the best. It's as simple as that.

Honestly, to pick any of the others as the best fighter is just a biased attitude of favoritism rather than going by facts which have been presented to us for over 20 years.

I think we got it. Thank you.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Anarky

Ehm... I dunno. Looking at the way the TMNT were brought up, I see that they were all taught the same thing, aside from weapons training (isn't that really obvious?). So the main reason is, why my vote goes to Leo too is that he's the one to actually use that training, being focused and not thinking of anything else. The others are all haven't really managed to get over their own selves.

Let's look at Mikey. He would probably be on a level with Leo, but (and that's a really big but) he's goofing around. So instead of focussing on a fight, he thinks of a witty thing to say or a funny move to do. His mind is not in the fight. It needs a really good reason for him to actually concentrate, to actually put his mind into the fight. His self pushes through.

If we look at Raph, we see that he lacks control over his anger (his self). He has enormous amounts of strength, but he forgets all the training when he's all "Grrahhh!".

Donnie is just a more peaceful nature, I see him not as a fighter like the others. Sure the others are more or less fighters, but Donnie isn't. He knows everything the others know as well, but he uses it completely different. Whereas Leo goes for the kill (as seen on numerous occasions), he even hesitates to injure. That's probably his weakest point.

To me, it's not about the weapon or the arm, it's about the mind.

Well said Anarky. It's all about the Nninja who posseses the arm that weilds the weapon.

Originally Posted by Anarky

I think we got it. Thank you.

Sorry

I just get flustered when people make choices that are contradictory to facts. It's the common sense part of me that goes nuts.


But anyway, seeing as Raph and Mikey got voted, I want to see Donnie get voted too. What the hell, right? We might as well have all of them with at least one vote.