LoZ: Twilight Princess *Spoilers*

Peanut · 11-19-2006, 07:46 PM

So I've got just about 4 hours put into TP today. One thing to be said for the game, it's going to be loooong. I've only just passed the first dungeon and there's supposed to be 10 full-sized dungeons, with some huge ass gaps in between.

Anyways, first impressions, obviously very positive. It's Zelda. Plain and simple. If you like Zelda games, you'll like TP. That being said, I don't think this is the "be-all end-all" that it was touted to be. Better than Majora's Mask? Of course. Better than OoT or tWW? Ehhhh...it's all about preference really. There's no one thing that's made me sit up and go "Wow! TP is so much better than the rest!". Granted, I've only been playing for 4 hours, but this just seems like Zelda again.

I'm still a bit iffy on the wolf stuff and really the whole Twilight thing all together. Not that it's bad or anything, but I just prefer playing as normal Link.

The game controls well, a lot more intuitive than I was led to believe. I was very worried after watching Alex Navarro struggle with the game on Gamespots Wii's marathon, but now I realize it was just because he sucks at games. Pointing with the Wiimote for stuff still feels a bit awkward, but I'm slowly getting better at it. Everything else is pretty fluid though. It feels good overall. Better than normal controls? Another iffy one, but it's definately not worse.

One problem I have personally is with the Wiimote speaker. That thing is awful. The sound is super tiny, and sometimes it gives off weird static noises. I really don't like that they took out all the effects for Link's weapons and made them come out of the Wiimote. It doesn't make sense, and the thing just feels kinda cheap.

So, anyone got questions about TP on Wii, or even the Wii in general? I'll try and answer whatever I can. As for the people that own it, thoughts thus far?

**ThirdMarioBro** · 11-20-2006, 02:35 AM

Well, I know that I'm easier to sway than you by a long shot, but I find it to be the best in the series, though I'm barely even to the first dungeon. I'm slow at this stuff, and was never good with complex puzzle solving. Don't even ask how long it took me to beat OoT. Let's just say you guys will be done with it way before I am.

Anyway, the cinemas are top-notch. I adore the music, and I mean adore it. Haven't had a soundtrack this nice in forever from Nintendo, and that's just pathetic. The controls are weird to adjust to, but no more so than trying to move Mario with an analog stick a decade ago. It gets easier and easier until you reach the point that it becomes natural, and then you're good to go, and the game is built with that in mind. It picks up as your skill and confidence build up. That's just good game design right there.

The field is a tad bland from what I've seen, but who cares. It's just there to have fun with, and to give scope. I had a blast in Ocarina just riding around jumping over fences on horseback, so I'm sure I'll be happy here as the game rolls on.

I'm fully satisfied so far. Better than OoT and WW which puts it at the top of my list. It's one of those games where you can kick back, check out, and go to another world. That's what I wanted, and that's what I got.

PanMan · 11-20-2006, 08:52 AM

Haven't played it too much, but the fishing really PO'ed me. I bet i was fishing for a solid hour (between playing zelda and watching football on and off). I caught one fish, but it didn't do the job (trying to avoid spoilers). Then after a bunch longer i caught another one and it worked. After that though it really picked up for me. Getting some of the weapons and learning the moves. the the slingshot feels really good aiming and firing. i wonder what a great FPS will feel like (looks like red steel is getting bad reviews). All in all it's looking great. I've only ever played OOT just recently (almost done it, just a couple more dungeons), but zelda games are pretty good.

Peanut · 11-20-2006, 01:33 PM

The music is good at points, but the music and sound effects in the Twilight are mind-numbingly bad.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-20-2006, 02:49 PM

Bad technically or artistically?

Peanut · 11-20-2006, 03:11 PM

Both ways. It really isn't even music. It's just a jumble of awful synth noises.

PanMan · 11-20-2006, 08:21 PM

Just got around to playing as link wolf, and i must say that i don't like it very much. i'd rather just play as ordinary link. Otherwise everything is good. had a bit of trouble figuring out somewhat simple puzzles too. The story is good though

Peanut · 11-20-2006, 09:18 PM

It's actually surprising how robust the story seems to be in this Zelda. There's a cutscene after most events, unlike the other games.

Anyways, as more and more time goes into this game, I see more things I love and more I wish was better. I'm really not too hot on the sword swinging. It's not the most responsive thing in the world. I actually felt more into the game pressing a button than swinging the wiimote. In one particular part it actually caused a good deal of annoyance...

Spoiler:

You need pretty precise timing at that part, and the controls just don't offer the precision you need to excute what you want to do easily. It's a good thing most of the time you just wave your wiimote around randomly to hit something.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-21-2006, 02:37 AM

I love zelda and I can't wait to get my hands on the new one. I don't have a wii but will be getting 1 next year but I plan to get the gamecube version.

BTW, did u guys hear what gamespot gave zelda tp? a 8.8. Since then all the zelda fans on other forums were like mad about it but it's a game. All good gaems have at least 1 or 2 scores with bad scores. No game is perfect.

OA · 11-21-2006, 09:20 AM

I don't have the game but it seems that most reviewers (here and elsewhere) seem to agree that the game overall is pretty fantastic but most don't seem to be too keen on the wolf parts....you would think that would add a very interesting dynamic but I guess not...which sux, cuz I was kinda looking forward to that...

PanMan · 11-21-2006, 10:04 AM

the reason i don't like the wolf aspect is because maybe i haven't gotten enough time using just link in the previous games. i've only played OOT and am not even done that yet.

it's not terrible, but i'd rather just be link.

Draconic · 11-21-2006, 10:39 AM

Majoras Mask was annoying to me for similar reasons -- I wanted to play as Adult Link and kick butt. However, you start as a Deku POS character, and never become the real link we all grew to know and love.

At least we have adult Link. It's been too long playing as that toddler...

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 11-21-2006, 02:19 PM

I've had the Gamecube version pre-ordered for like a year and a half now. Is that still supposed to come out (it was also supposed to be a special edition version)?

*Dr. Doom* · 11-21-2006, 04:51 PM

Yeah, starting out as Deku link was kinda dumb, but my the time you got the Zora Mask it was all worth it.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-21-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbit_mania

I've had the Gamecube version pre-ordered for like a year and a half now. Is that still supposed to come out (it was also supposed to be a special edition version)?

Yes zelda twilight princess is still coming out for the gamecube.. It comes out december 13 for us North Americans.

I been playing zelda since the very beginning and I can't wait to use wolf link.

Also, Majora's mask is sweet and fun. Collecting all masks is tough but you get a new big reward for the mask collecting and you will get the complete ending.

Why I say complete well if u dont collect all masks, teh ending will show but there will be black scenes with a mask on it meaning you havent gotten that mask and if u want to see the whole ending, you will need all masks.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-21-2006, 05:05 PM

It's a great game, unfortuantely do to how complicated it becomes at time, I've played a good 3/5 of it 3 seperate times and never gotten around to finishing it.

Peanut · 11-21-2006, 06:05 PM

I just beat the second dungeon in TP. The dungeon itself wasn't as interesting as the first to me, but the boss was amazing! Really enjoying some of the more advanced puzzles in this one.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-22-2006, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

It's a great game, unfortuantely do to how complicated it becomes at time, I've played a good 3/5 of it 3 seperate times and never gotten around to finishing it.

Oh, u should at least try to finish it. I guess from my view it's a good game and the final battle is pretty good. Majora's mask is such a dark game and depressing with that moon hanging over u.

Also, it's only 1 dugeon, let's hope the 3rd one is better for u

*Dr. Doom* · 11-22-2006, 12:20 AM

I HAVE tried, on three separate occasions. No dice. Great game tho.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-22-2006, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

I HAVE tried, on three separate occasions. No dice. Great game tho.

Ok well at least you enjoyed it. Well if it's hard for you, you can always use a guide. Just my opinion.

11-19-2006, 07:46 PM	#1
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	LoZ: Twilight Princess Spoilers So I've got just about 4 hours put into TP today. One thing to be said for the game, it's going to be loooong. I've only just passed the first dungeon and there's supposed to be 10 full-sized dungeons, with some huge ass gaps in between. Anyways, first impressions, obviously very positive. It's Zelda. Plain and simple. If you like Zelda games, you'll like TP. That being said, I don't think this is the "be-all end-all" that it was touted to be. Better than Majora's Mask? Of course. Better than OoT or tWW? Ehhhh...it's all about preference really. There's no one thing that's made me sit up and go "Wow! TP is so much better than the rest!". Granted, I've only been playing for 4 hours, but this just seems like Zelda again. I'm still a bit iffy on the wolf stuff and really the whole Twilight thing all together. Not that it's bad or anything, but I just prefer playing as normal Link. The game controls well, a lot more intuitive than I was led to believe. I was very worried after watching Alex Navarro struggle with the game on Gamespots Wii's marathon, but now I realize it was just because he sucks at games. Pointing with the Wiimote for stuff still feels a bit awkward, but I'm slowly getting better at it. Everything else is pretty fluid though. It feels good overall. Better than normal controls? Another iffy one, but it's definately not worse. One problem I have personally is with the Wiimote speaker. That thing is awful. The sound is super tiny, and sometimes it gives off weird static noises. I really don't like that they took out all the effects for Link's weapons and made them come out of the Wiimote. It doesn't make sense, and the thing just feels kinda cheap. So, anyone got questions about TP on Wii, or even the Wii in general? I'll try and answer whatever I can. As for the people that own it, thoughts thus far?

11-20-2006, 02:35 AM	#2
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Well, I know that I'm easier to sway than you by a long shot, but I find it to be the best in the series, though I'm barely even to the first dungeon. I'm slow at this stuff, and was never good with complex puzzle solving. Don't even ask how long it took me to beat OoT. Let's just say you guys will be done with it way before I am. Anyway, the cinemas are top-notch. I adore the music, and I mean adore it. Haven't had a soundtrack this nice in forever from Nintendo, and that's just pathetic. The controls are weird to adjust to, but no more so than trying to move Mario with an analog stick a decade ago. It gets easier and easier until you reach the point that it becomes natural, and then you're good to go, and the game is built with that in mind. It picks up as your skill and confidence build up. That's just good game design right there. The field is a tad bland from what I've seen, but who cares. It's just there to have fun with, and to give scope. I had a blast in Ocarina just riding around jumping over fences on horseback, so I'm sure I'll be happy here as the game rolls on. I'm fully satisfied so far. Better than OoT and WW which puts it at the top of my list. It's one of those games where you can kick back, check out, and go to another world. That's what I wanted, and that's what I got. __________________

11-20-2006, 08:52 AM	#3
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	Haven't played it too much, but the fishing really PO'ed me. I bet i was fishing for a solid hour (between playing zelda and watching football on and off). I caught one fish, but it didn't do the job (trying to avoid spoilers). Then after a bunch longer i caught another one and it worked. After that though it really picked up for me. Getting some of the weapons and learning the moves. the the slingshot feels really good aiming and firing. i wonder what a great FPS will feel like (looks like red steel is getting bad reviews). All in all it's looking great. I've only ever played OOT just recently (almost done it, just a couple more dungeons), but zelda games are pretty good. __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

11-20-2006, 02:49 PM	#5
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Bad technically or artistically? __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-20-2006, 08:21 PM	#7
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	Just got around to playing as link wolf, and i must say that i don't like it very much. i'd rather just play as ordinary link. Otherwise everything is good. had a bit of trouble figuring out somewhat simple puzzles too. The story is good though __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

11-20-2006, 01:33 PM	#4
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	The music is good at points, but the music and sound effects in the Twilight are mind-numbingly bad.

11-20-2006, 03:11 PM	#6
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Both ways. It really isn't even music. It's just a jumble of awful synth noises.

11-20-2006, 09:18 PM	#8
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It's actually surprising how robust the story seems to be in this Zelda. There's a cutscene after most events, unlike the other games. Anyways, as more and more time goes into this game, I see more things I love and more I wish was better. I'm really not too hot on the sword swinging. It's not the most responsive thing in the world. I actually felt more into the game pressing a button than swinging the wiimote. In one particular part it actually caused a good deal of annoyance... Spoiler: When you have to save Colin from that nasty orcish guy, and you "duel" him on the bridge. You need pretty precise timing at that part, and the controls just don't offer the precision you need to excute what you want to do easily. It's a good thing most of the time you just wave your wiimote around randomly to hit something.

11-21-2006, 02:37 AM	#9
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	I love zelda and I can't wait to get my hands on the new one. I don't have a wii but will be getting 1 next year but I plan to get the gamecube version. BTW, did u guys hear what gamespot gave zelda tp? a 8.8. Since then all the zelda fans on other forums were like mad about it but it's a game. All good gaems have at least 1 or 2 scores with bad scores. No game is perfect.

11-21-2006, 09:20 AM	#10
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	I don't have the game but it seems that most reviewers (here and elsewhere) seem to agree that the game overall is pretty fantastic but most don't seem to be too keen on the wolf parts....you would think that would add a very interesting dynamic but I guess not...which sux, cuz I was kinda looking forward to that... __________________

11-21-2006, 10:04 AM	#11
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	the reason i don't like the wolf aspect is because maybe i haven't gotten enough time using just link in the previous games. i've only played OOT and am not even done that yet. it's not terrible, but i'd rather just be link. __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

11-21-2006, 10:39 AM	#12
Draconic Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 328	Majoras Mask was annoying to me for similar reasons -- I wanted to play as Adult Link and kick butt. However, you start as a Deku POS character, and never become the real link we all grew to know and love. At least we have adult Link. It's been too long playing as that toddler... __________________ [CENTER]

11-21-2006, 02:19 PM	#13
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I've had the Gamecube version pre-ordered for like a year and a half now. Is that still supposed to come out (it was also supposed to be a special edition version)?

11-21-2006, 04:51 PM	#14
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Yeah, starting out as Deku link was kinda dumb, but my the time you got the Zora Mask it was all worth it. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-21-2006, 05:05 PM	#16
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	It's a great game, unfortuantely do to how complicated it becomes at time, I've played a good 3/5 of it 3 seperate times and never gotten around to finishing it. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-21-2006, 06:05 PM	#17
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I just beat the second dungeon in TP. The dungeon itself wasn't as interesting as the first to me, but the boss was amazing! Really enjoying some of the more advanced puzzles in this one.

11-22-2006, 12:20 AM	#19
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I HAVE tried, on three separate occasions. No dice. Great game tho. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

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