The Batman, Legion of Superheroes, others renewed - Page 2

kerfootw · 03-18-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra

How come? Just curious, but why doesn't a new show have no right to last longer than the old one? It's like saying the new TMNT show can not have more episodes than the old TMNT cartoon. It's just stupid.

The Batman is making leaps in terms of improvement. Watch the entire series from start to it's latest episode, and you can tell that the show is improving. Batman is shown to be getting older, and I love how some things such as death and the state of the human mind are looked upon. Just look at "Strange Minds" and "Strange New World". They look very closely at the state of the human mind and psychology. Would things such as "Camp Lazlo" look at that? Hell no! This show is going places, and I for one am happy for it.

No, the old Batman and new TMNT deserve to last longer because they're the better ones! They put so much work into these shows and more that it really shows! I'll admit, "The Batman"'s had a neat run as of late but they should really show respect to what's better and call it quits before everyone thinks that it's the better version--"Batman TAS" did a better job with the psychological factor anyway and "The Batman" still has that kiddish factor!
Besides, how the f*** does "The Batman" get a third season DVD release and sell them pretty well while "Gargoyles" can't even get a Season 2 Volume 2 release?! Now that's stupid!

*ZariusTwo* · 03-18-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

Besides, how the f*** does "The Batman" get a third season DVD release and sell them pretty well while "Gargoyles" can't even get a Season 2 Volume 2 release?! Now that's stupid!

Because WB has nothing to do with Buena Vista?

Spawn Guy · 03-18-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

No, the old Batman and new TMNT deserve to last longer because they're the better ones! They put so much work into these shows and more that it really shows! I'll admit, "The Batman"'s had a neat run as of late but they should really show respect to what's better and call it quits before everyone thinks that it's the better version--

Do you really think that's going to happen?

majesty329 · 03-18-2007, 04:47 PM

The only decent thing coming back on WB Kids line up is the Batman I agree with Zarius on Legion of Superheroes it is not good at all.

kerfootw · 03-18-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Because WB has nothing to do with Buena Vista?

Don't be a smart allic!

Greed · 03-18-2007, 11:02 PM

The Batman blows hard compared to TAS so why is it still on the air?

I hate all cartoons nowadays, they are all so kid friendly and lackluster compared to some of the shows from the 90s. Not to mention everything is being anime-ified.

Before you say "but they are kid shows" just go watch X-Men, Batman TAS, Gargoyles, and to a lesser extent Xtreme Ghostbusters and tell me these new shows are worth a damn. The last good WB series were Justice League/Unlimited, Static Shock, and Batman Beyond. As an adult I can still watch those series and take them seriously, something I can't say about the newer toons.

Spawn Guy · 03-19-2007, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Greed

The Batman blows hard compared to TAS so why is it still on the air?

Because there are people who don't compare The Batman to BTAS?

*ZariusTwo* · 03-19-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Greed

The Batman blows hard compared to TAS so why is it still on the air?

Because it's actually GOOD and does pretty well with the demographic?

Stop putting the almighty Timmverse on this flawless pedastal. Superman: TAS's first season and JL's first season were s*ite.

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I hate all cartoons nowadays, they are all so kid friendly and lackluster compared to some of the shows from the 90s. Not to mention everything is being anime-ified.

You hav'nt watched ANY recent cartoon in a long time, and tha just proves it.

The Batman has just had one of it's darkest, most mature, and most provactive seasons ever. Take ONE look at the episode "Seconds" and tell me that was light-hearted. Everyone DIED in that episode and were only brought back because the main enemie's son was killed.

..And I don't think I need to tell you about Avatar, the BENCHMARK of innovative, ground breaking animated action/adventure not seen since Batman: TAS. And for the narrow-minded, it sure as HELL ain't anime. It's a western folk tale, and it's given that look

KND, Billy and Mandy, Fosters (even if that's bad), Jake Long, Avatar all have darker-edged humour and continuity that lacks severly in the shows that don't deserve airing, and they all have had long lives

So please, get off this inane bandwagon of assuming all cartoons blow. They don't

kerfootw · 03-19-2007, 10:40 AM

I'll give credit to the recent season of "The Batman" but out of all those shows you mentioned only "Avatar" rocks. Everything else indeed blows.

KND and Jake Long?! Please!

*ZariusTwo* · 03-19-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

I'll give credit to the recent season of "The Batman" but out of all those shows you mentioned only "Avatar" rocks. Everything else indeed blows.

KND and Jake Long?! Please!

Typical "all casrtoonz blows!" troll behaviour, no reasons given whatsoever. I don't even LIKE Jake Long myself, and it has strong continuity.

kerfootw · 03-19-2007, 10:56 AM

You want explanations for why AD sucks, I'll give 'em to ya (KND later):

It's been bad since the beginning. With this one they tried to mix magic and rap talk all in one...and throw in a dragon to draw an even bigger crowd and hope it's enough.
Even when Jake becomes the American Dragon, he's still the klutz he is as a kid and that really failed because we're supposed to be expecting a real rip-roaring dragon (like the TMNT in the Lost Season for example).
Trixie is a disgrace among the characters. Her attempts at trying to sound and be all "in the house" make her even more repulsive. Jake tries to sound cool too and isn't so cool either (his battle cry needs work as well). It really failed to give me the impression that he and his friends are only 13. Dante Basco should stick to doing Prince Zuko on Avatar. Spud is also SO dumb! Fu Dog is a pretty cool character though a bit cliche because he's a talking dog who tries to be more than the co-mentor to Jake that he is. As for the wise Grandpa, let's just say I've seen better.
The overall animation's pretty good but even since the first season, the villains needed work on their designs and could sound more menacing. The action and fight sequences also needed major work!! The Black Dragon's really nice though, but there have hardly been a lot of well executed and big fights with big enemies who can be real threats, not only to Jake but the whole world as well! I even remember one episode where Jake had to fight what looked like big, walking teeth! Give me a break!
I'll admit the writing got really good while the animation deteriorated but I still had trouble getting through one episode because of the bland humor and absolutely terrible and annoying dialogue.
Honestly, this show had the chance to be something great! I wanted to like this show, I tried to like this show, but Disney blew another great concept. But you don't have to take my word for it.

So don't you dare call me a stupid troll again $hithead! I know a lot more about good TV than you think and I'll be happy to keep playing these games as long as you like because as long as you keep liking these crappy shows, the only troll here is you!

Jon · 03-19-2007, 11:13 AM

Riiighht! You dislike one of the basic concepts of the show (the fact Jake is *in-training* to be a protector of magical beings, and thus does foul-up at times). And the other fact -- of the stories seeming "strange", even with them being of that (mystical creatures, etc.).

Sorry, but rather poor reasoning.

kerfootw · 03-19-2007, 11:15 AM

Where the hell did I say that? I said, he and his friends act like morons! Learn to read for f*** sakes!

Jon · 03-19-2007, 11:20 AM

Okay, you definately have an attitude problem (and some comprehention trouble).

I was noting things that you posted about (granted in a more basic manner), but you just come 'blasting' at me for it.

kerfootw · 03-19-2007, 11:54 AM

All right Jon, that was a little harsh and I apologize but your retorts aren't making me like you better as much as you towards me. I've been reviewing television programs since I was 7 years old. If I say something's a bad show, it's a bad show.

Spawn Guy · 03-19-2007, 12:24 PM

You think it's a bad show. Toonzone says the exact same thing, and I take half of what they say with a grain of salt.

Jon · 03-19-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

All right Jon, that was a little harsh and I apologize but your retorts aren't making me like you better as much as you towards me. I've been reviewing television programs since I was 7 years old. If I say something's a bad show, it's a bad show.

Me?! I've tried best *not* to be (harsh, etc.). A small amount of retort, sure. But mainly making note of the reasoning behind some things you were putting-down about the series (as there are reasons for those things).

kerfootw · 03-19-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

You think it's a bad show. Toonzone says the exact same thing, and I take half of what they say with a grain of salt.

That's not who I'm talking about. There are plenty of haters on tv.com, especially when I was a member and stuff and I agree. Compare it with other great action animated series's and it can't hold a torch.

**Krang** · 03-20-2007, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

So don't you dare call me a stupid troll again $hithead! I know a lot more about good TV than you think and I'll be happy to keep playing these games as long as you like because as long as you keep liking these crappy shows, the only troll here is you!

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

Where the hell did I say that? I said, he and his friends act like morons! Learn to read for f*** sakes!

Are you aware that you aren't allowed to attack other members on these forums? Please quit it before you get a warning. See the Forum Rules for more information.

Shark · 03-20-2007, 01:59 AM

I knew when I saw Krang had posted, something had to be up.

Speaking of The Batman, I have a question. Wasn't the bad guy in 'Rumors' supposed to be Deathstroke/Slade? As far as I can tell, they never once mentioned the name of the bad guy, aside from his real name.

03-18-2007, 11:02 PM	#26
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	The Batman blows hard compared to TAS so why is it still on the air? I hate all cartoons nowadays, they are all so kid friendly and lackluster compared to some of the shows from the 90s. Not to mention everything is being anime-ified. Before you say "but they are kid shows" just go watch X-Men, Batman TAS, Gargoyles, and to a lesser extent Xtreme Ghostbusters and tell me these new shows are worth a damn. The last good WB series were Justice League/Unlimited, Static Shock, and Batman Beyond. As an adult I can still watch those series and take them seriously, something I can't say about the newer toons. __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

03-19-2007, 12:24 PM	#36
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	You think it's a bad show. Toonzone says the exact same thing, and I take half of what they say with a grain of salt. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

03-20-2007, 01:59 AM	#40
Shark Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In my Wii, playing with my Wii. Playing with TMNT on the Wii. Wii Play TMNT WEEE!!! Posts: 653	I knew when I saw Krang had posted, something had to be up. Speaking of The Batman, I have a question. Wasn't the bad guy in 'Rumors' supposed to be Deathstroke/Slade? As far as I can tell, they never once mentioned the name of the bad guy, aside from his real name. __________________ The Forum's Un-Official Karai Obsessor!!! And my unhealthy obsession for Karai continues...I need therapy... Enter: Shadow Assassin RP has just started, and still open for new people. Favorite Sloganizer Quotes: "I quit smokeing with Karai.", "Karai on the outside, tasty on the inside." and "I'd sleep with Karai." Man that Sloganizer can be pretty perverted O.o

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03-18-2007, 04:47 PM	#24
majesty329 Thug Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 97	The only decent thing coming back on WB Kids line up is the Batman I agree with Zarius on Legion of Superheroes it is not good at all.

03-19-2007, 10:40 AM	#29
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	I'll give credit to the recent season of "The Batman" but out of all those shows you mentioned only "Avatar" rocks. Everything else indeed blows. KND and Jake Long?! Please!

03-19-2007, 10:56 AM	#31
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	You want explanations for why AD sucks, I'll give 'em to ya (KND later): It's been bad since the beginning. With this one they tried to mix magic and rap talk all in one...and throw in a dragon to draw an even bigger crowd and hope it's enough. Even when Jake becomes the American Dragon, he's still the klutz he is as a kid and that really failed because we're supposed to be expecting a real rip-roaring dragon (like the TMNT in the Lost Season for example). Trixie is a disgrace among the characters. Her attempts at trying to sound and be all "in the house" make her even more repulsive. Jake tries to sound cool too and isn't so cool either (his battle cry needs work as well). It really failed to give me the impression that he and his friends are only 13. Dante Basco should stick to doing Prince Zuko on Avatar. Spud is also SO dumb! Fu Dog is a pretty cool character though a bit cliche because he's a talking dog who tries to be more than the co-mentor to Jake that he is. As for the wise Grandpa, let's just say I've seen better. The overall animation's pretty good but even since the first season, the villains needed work on their designs and could sound more menacing. The action and fight sequences also needed major work!! The Black Dragon's really nice though, but there have hardly been a lot of well executed and big fights with big enemies who can be real threats, not only to Jake but the whole world as well! I even remember one episode where Jake had to fight what looked like big, walking teeth! Give me a break! I'll admit the writing got really good while the animation deteriorated but I still had trouble getting through one episode because of the bland humor and absolutely terrible and annoying dialogue. Honestly, this show had the chance to be something great! I wanted to like this show, I tried to like this show, but Disney blew another great concept. But you don't have to take my word for it. So don't you dare call me a stupid troll again $hithead! I know a lot more about good TV than you think and I'll be happy to keep playing these games as long as you like because as long as you keep liking these crappy shows, the only troll here is you!

03-19-2007, 11:13 AM	#32
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Riiighht! You dislike one of the basic concepts of the show (the fact Jake is in-training to be a protector of magical beings, and thus does foul-up at times). And the other fact -- of the stories seeming "strange", even with them being of that (mystical creatures, etc.). Sorry, but rather poor reasoning.

03-19-2007, 11:15 AM	#33
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	Where the hell did I say that? I said, he and his friends act like morons! Learn to read for f*** sakes!

03-19-2007, 11:20 AM	#34
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Okay, you definately have an attitude problem (and some comprehention trouble). I was noting things that you posted about (granted in a more basic manner), but you just come 'blasting' at me for it.

03-19-2007, 11:54 AM	#35
kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	All right Jon, that was a little harsh and I apologize but your retorts aren't making me like you better as much as you towards me. I've been reviewing television programs since I was 7 years old. If I say something's a bad show, it's a bad show.