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[Sliced]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You'd be wrong. Thanks for whining

My pleasure... Sorry but I had to get it out. I was too dissapointed.. Whining is so great for that.

Don't fret dude, not bashing you or anything, just another "Venom was badly used" rant is so cliched these days, it does'nt factor as a criticism, more a sign of consumerism finally getting it's ass handed to it

Of course Venom is now a ''cliched'' rant. The guy was one of the favorite bad guy for alot of people. And it would've been awsome for this trilogy to end with the epic Venom vs Spiderman. We only had a little fraction of what we wanted as fans of both Venom and Spiderman. The way the movie was done, Venom was just not needed. Or him or sandman was one baddie too many.

This movie would've been great even if Venom was not to be in it at all. But be honest, and tell me that you were not dissapointed about the whole Venom thing... We cannot always have what we want as fans, and I can't really say that I enjoyed the few minutes we were able to see Venom.

Of course the movie was an emotional drama, WELCOME TO SPIDER-MAN. There's nothing in Spidey 3 that was'nt in the first two movies, it's the current "fad" to bash popular films when they reach a certain level of expectation

I enjoy when a movie has drama. But not when there's too much. The first 2 movies did had alot of drama, and yeah its ''SPIDERMAN'', but this movie had way too much. I found this movie to be very entertaining, but also very boring and ridiculous by moments. And I'm not the only one... There were no cheers, or no excitement in the theater... People were actually talking about other things during the movie. We could hear them all too well talking about their upcoming weekend... We also had some people walking out before the end and I could hear alot saying how dissapointed they were.

And about the ''fad'' of bashing films, well, we all have our level of satisfaction toward something. Its really impossible to please everyone, but I'll say it when I'm dissapointed about a movie. Just like I'll say it when I love a movie. There was actually alot of whining in Whining-man 3, what I did here was nothing compare to that.

Only five year olds and Venom junkies hate the movie

Spider-man fans are hating this movie. Not just us Venom junkies.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Sliced

Of course Venom is now a ''cliched'' rant. The guy was one of the favorite bad guy for alot of people. And it would've been awsome for this trilogy to end with the epic Venom vs Spiderman. We only had a little fraction of what we wanted as fans of both Venom and Spiderman. The way the movie was done, Venom was just not needed. Or him or sandman was one baddie too many.

There's two ways of looking at it though, a big sprawling popcorn fest with Spidey against a devastatingly cunning opponent, or the need to pursue other aspects of the Venom mythology, IE the earliest part, that provide much more fuller content that does'nt put Peter Parker or Spidey on the backburner, and evolves the other plots they had to fit in.

The Venom storyline would'nt have solved any of those problems, the Alien Coustume storyline from the 1980's however was perfect for it. That part of the story was handled well in the animated series

No doubt Eddie's transformation into Venom should have been the cliffhanger and the character be given fuller exposure in the fourth film, there's no excuse for Sargent to have done what he did, except for the sad fact he really does'nt like Venom, neither does Raimi. So there you go.

Honestly, Venom's never had broad scope in the comics, where as the Symbiote has, Raimi and Sargent went with the better story, not what was good for the fanbase for the character.

This movie would've been great even if Venom was not to be in it at all. But be honest, and tell me that you were not dissapointed about the whole Venom thing...

I don't remotley LIKE Venom as a character, I consider him heavily overrated as mentioned in other parts of this thread, where as I loved the Alien Symbiote storyline, so it was easy for me to laugh off the short span the character had, and actually saw him used well as a "mirror" for Peter and what could have happened to him if he had the symbiote for too long.

[Duke]

Spider-Man 3 was not even my favorite of the 3 but it was still a great movie. I think a lot of people who constantly complain about the drama either didn't watch the other 2 movies and certainly didn't read a single comic. The drama is what makes Spider-Man be Spider-Man. If you know what happened to Gwyn Stacey in the comics then you understand how truly not perfect Peter really is. There is so much more to Peter's life than simply dawning the Spider-Man suit. He fails and his life is full of drama and emotion because he's human. If you life doesn't have drama then I'm truly impressed because sometimes mine is full of it. Also, every single comic book based movie has its share of flaws because movies are not and cannot be perfect adaptions of their respective comics. Like GK said the medium and pacing are very different and it never transfers perfectly. I think the only real exception is Batman Begins, which is far from a direct translation from the pages of a comic, but is in my honest opinion about as great as a comic book based movie can ever get. But compared to any other comic book movie and even the first 2 Spider-Man films, Spider-Man 3 does more than simply hold its own.