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Old 06-01-2007, 08:37 AM   #1
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New Loch Ness Monster footage!

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/7..._Monster_Video

Like tartan, bagpipes, and shortbread Scotland's Loch Ness Monster is as much an emblem as a tourist draw.

And now Nessie's back.

An amateur scientist has captured what Loch Ness Monster watchers say is among the finest footage ever taken of the elusive mythical creature reputed to swim beneath the waters of Scotland's most mysterious lake

"I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this jet black thing, about 45-feet (15 meters) long, moving fairly fast in the water," said Gordon Holmes, the 55-year-old a lab technician from Shipley, Yorkshire, who took the video this past Saturday.

He said it moved at about 6 mph (10 kph) and kept a fairly straight course.

"My initial thought is it could be a very big eel, they have serpent-like features and they may explain all the sightings in Loch Ness over the years."

Loch Ness is surrounded by myth and mystery, as it is the largest and deepest inland expanse of water in Britain. About 750 feet (230 meters) to the bottom, it's even deeper than the North Sea.

Nessie watcher and marine biologist Adrian Shine of the Loch Ness 2000 center in Drumnadrochit, on the shores of the lake, viewed the video and hopes to properly analyze it in the coming months.

"I see myself as a skeptical interpreter of what happens in the loch, but I do keep an open mind about these things and there is no doubt this is some of the best footage I have seen," Shine said.

He said the video is particularly useful because Holmes panned back to get the background shore into the shot. That means it was less likely to be a fake and provided geographical bearings allowing one to calculate how big the creature was and how fast it was traveling.

While many sightings can be attributed to a drop of the local whisky, legends of Scottish monsters date back to one of the founders of the Christian church in Scotland, St. Columba, who wrote of them in about 565 A.D.

More recently, there have been more than 4,000 purported Nessie sightings since she was first caught on camera by a surgeon on vacation in the 1930s.

Since then, the faithful have speculated whether it is a completely unknown species, a sturgeon -- even though they have not been native to Scotland's waters for many years -- or even a last surviving dinosaur.

Shine doubts that last explanation.

"There are a number of possible explanations to the sightings in the loch. It could be some biological creature, it could just be the waves of the loch or it could be some psychological phenomenon in as much as we see what we want to see," he said.

But Nessie isn't just an icon of the paranormal -- she's also an emblem of Scottish tourism. She has been the muse for cuddly toys and immortalized on T-shirts and posters showing her classic three-humped image.

The Scottish media is skeptical of Nessie stories but Holmes' footage is of such good quality that even the normally reticent BBC Scotland aired the video on its main news program on Tuesday.

U can see the footage (which is really interesting) by either going to the website above or by going here:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/...Loch+Ness&c=av

Raph's Girl note: After watching the footage. Well it is pretty clear. Im just not sure what's being shown...
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:37 AM   #2
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"lock Ness" "Scautland"? I love other other peoples accents. People also call the Lochs "lakes".

Anyway, this doesnt really change my opinion, I've always beleived in the Loch Ness monster, it adds a bit of Mystery to my home country. I've heard some people say the creature is a Kelpie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpie.

I dont think that is a natural occourance though, the way the water moved there. Something was under the water. And its a perfect place for any animal to hide it, murky and deep.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:02 PM   #3
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I saw another interview with the scientist where he said something like, "based on the water, it was at least 45 feet long," and the reporter asked "Could it have been an otter?" and the scientist said, "It could have been an otter."

I saw yet another where he said he'd taken the video at 9:50pm, but that the sun was still up.

Eh... just sayin'.

If you watch the video, there are clearly TWO loch ness monsters (look at the upper right corner).
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:20 PM   #4
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geesh if they really want to prove it they show dive on in next to the thing and see it up close...video tape that
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:20 PM   #5
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hmmm. doubtfull
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:43 PM   #6
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The world is full of strange things. . . and all legends have their roots in truth.


Personally, I think we should dynamite the entire loch, and then send in custom made battle cyborg troopers to disarm and subdue the monster. Then, we can build a huge arena, where Nessie can fight Paris Hilton and other Hollywood starlettes.

The question is, who would you put your money on? The terrible, scaley, hideous beast or Nessie?
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:44 PM   #7
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I saw another interview with the scientist where he said something like, "based on the water, it was at least 45 feet long," and the reporter asked "Could it have been an otter?" and the scientist said, "It could have been an otter."

I saw yet another where he said he'd taken the video at 9:50pm, but that the sun was still up.

Eh... just sayin'.

If you watch the video, there are clearly TWO loch ness monsters (look at the upper right corner).
45 foot long otter!?!?!?? BWAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45 feet long = the legnth of a motocoach...think about it. its no otter
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Old 06-01-2007, 01:00 PM   #8
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The question is, who would you put your money on? The terrible, scaley, hideous beast or Nessie?
OOOOOoooooooooooo ba-zing!

Although I do not believe in the monster personally, I still think it's fun to wonder what is down in the mysterious fathoms below
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:02 PM   #9
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Well, here there be proof that there is not just one Loch Ness Monster, but a whole family of them!
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:18 PM   #10
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looks like a log moving along the current to me the thing in the water looks as if it has no shape besides a straight long stick shape it's either a log or a snake if you ask me.
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:25 PM   #11
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Who believes this crap?
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:31 PM   #12
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Has anyone seen "Incident at Loch Ness"?
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:45 PM   #13
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I'm unimpressed and hardly swayed. As Putrescent suggested, it doesn't seem to have any mobile appendages.
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Has anyone seen "Incident at Loch Ness"?
Not I. Do you have anything to add to this thought?
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Personally, I think we should dynamite the entire loch, and then send in custom made battle cyborg troopers to disarm and subdue the monster. Then, we can build a huge arena, where Nessie can fight Paris Hilton and other Hollywood starlettes.

The question is, who would you put your money on? The terrible, scaley, hideous beast or Nessie?
How long has Nessie been a hollywood starlet? I never noticed.
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Old 06-01-2007, 04:55 PM   #14
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Plenty of people believe this "crap." I don't necessarily believe in the thoughts of that there's one or more last remaining dinosours on the planet in Loch Ness, but enough weird things have been seen that there more than likely is something. This world is still full of mysteries and forever will be. Will there ever be cement proof that ghosts exist? No. No matter how cement the proof there will always be people out there that simply refuse to believe it.

A good example for why people believe "crap" is religion. I knew a girl in high school that refused to believe in something unless she can see it with her own eyes. One thing she didn't believe in was the moon landing. She still swears up and down that it was faked. And she can't use the excuse of "Oh, I'm from a different generation" because she's two years younger than me and I'm 19. Anyway, one day she went on a moon landing rant in class and spoke the If-I-can't-see-it claim and I asked her if she believed in the air that she was breathing at the moment. Then a friend of mine asked what God was like because if she believed in him well then she HAD to have met him. Boy was she pissed. But yea, my point is that people will believe in whatever they want even if other people think it's "crap."
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Do you have anything to add to this thought?
Yes sir, Mr. Gobo. It's a very interesting documentary style film about acclaimed filmmaker Werner Herzog's bizarre and tragic attempt to film a documentary about the Loch Ness mystery.
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Oh, Gobo. . . if only you knew. . . . If only. . .
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Related story: My sister made it all the way through to I guess would be called the final auditions with about another dozen people for the film Loch Ness. It was for the role of Isabel, and she would've been ten or eleven at the time! I remember she even got a script that she had to practice, that was pretty cool!
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:36 PM   #18
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Yes sir, Mr. Gobo. It's a very interesting documentary style film about acclaimed filmmaker Werner Herzog's bizarre and tragic attempt to film a documentary about the Loch Ness mystery.
Vague... but, intriguing none-the-less. ^_^
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Related story: My sister made it all the way through to I guess would be called the final auditions with about another dozen people for the film Loch Ness. It was for the role of Isabel, and she would've been ten or eleven at the time! I remember she even got a script that she had to practice, that was pretty cool!
Now, THAT'S something to get excited about! Any idea what the film will be about: the hunt, Nessie herself or some fictional story built around the myth (ala The Mothman Prophecies)?
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #19
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Now, THAT'S something to get excited about! Any idea what the film will be about: the hunt, Nessie herself or some fictional story built around the myth (ala The Mothman Prophecies)?
That's still classified information, seeing as the movie's only eleven years old and everyone and their mother's seen it ten times already. So there's no chance to see it early or get information earlier than its release.

You know, confidentiality-contracts and the like.
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What I find fascinating about all this is that altho the monster sitings mostly focus on Nessie. There ARE other lake monsters.

In the U.S we have:
Bessie (Lake Erie), Champ (Lake Champlaine), and Chessie (Chessapeake Bay), plus several others.

The UK..oh Nessie aint the only one! They've got:
Lizzie (Loch Lochy and Loch Quoich)
Muc-sheilch (Loch Maree)
Morag (Loch Maree)
Seileag (Loch Shiel)
Searrach Uisge (Loch Lewis/Suainaval)

Sweden has the most Lake Monsters oddly enough.

There's like some 250 Lake Monsters all over the world!! 250!!

Here's some links that might fascinate ya'll:
http://www.lakedragons.livingdinos.com/ (You can see footage of Champ here)

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/chaney/627/index.htm (a more comprehensive list)

Champ is a bit more known than Ogopogo (whom I've seen footage of as well). I've also seen footage of the Japanese lake monster, Issie.
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