Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - Please use spoiler-tags - Page 4

*ZariusTwo* · 04-19-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

The silver surfer looks gay? Thats a new one

Yeah, it was just a bogus argument I used to counter a bogus argument.. "Realism Nazis" are ruining the chances for movies to try something that attempts to break the bounderies of what we beleive is possible.

*Raven* · 04-19-2007, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeah, it was just a bogus argument I used to counter a bogus argument.. "Realism Nazis" are ruining the chances for movies to try something that attempts to break the bounderies of what we beleive is possible.

Ah, I see now. Damn I feel a little stupid now.

*Mecha Cow* · 04-19-2007, 09:48 AM

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Ah, here we go, the "realism" Nazis strike again

It's hilarious to be called a Nazi by you of all people. For the record, I'm not even talking about realism, but don't let that stop you.

My 'argument' was that some things that may work in comics don't always work in movies. I don't suppose the word 'adaption' rings a bell here. Perhaps some 'comic book Nazis' need to realise they are two different media? That's not even a matter of opinion, and only you could interpret it as hostile.

You are out of this world, dude. Now go find someone else to bother.

*E* Apparently Fishburne is voicing the Surfer, not Galactus.

*Raph's Girl* · 04-19-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

*E* Apparently Fishburne is voicing the Surfer, not Galactus.

Yep...apperantly they're not even sure if the big scary cloud will even talk so Fishburne's voicing Silver Surfer instead.

majesty329 · 04-22-2007, 01:12 PM

I doesn't matter to me what they do I have no plans of watching it anyway I didn't like the first and I don't see how this one can be any better.

Spawn Guy · 04-25-2007, 03:15 PM

The Surfers in it and we might actually get more than one fight scene.

*Mecha Cow* · 04-25-2007, 04:21 PM

Not bad...

*That Matt Guy* · 04-25-2007, 04:36 PM

I like that shot of Thing drinking three pitchers of beer.

Spawn Guy · 04-25-2007, 04:48 PM

Doom looks kind of like back in the 616 where he went all magic and stichy.

*Buslady* · 06-18-2007, 06:22 PM

I didnt see a thread for this one...anybody see it yet?
JUst so I can yap about it, I'll stick everything I say in spoiler tags...

Spoiler:

*Revan* · 06-18-2007, 06:25 PM

I have not seen it yet so don't spoil anything when I ask, did the PG rating hurt the movie in any way or did it work out ok?

*Buslady* · 06-18-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

I have not seen it yet so don't spoil anything when I ask, did the PG rating hurt the movie in any way or did it work out ok?

nah it was fine. just go see, grab some popcorn & a soda and have fun.

*DrSpengler* · 06-18-2007, 06:56 PM

My review.

I honestly hated it. Not just because of what they did to Galactus, but for the acting, the pacing, the characters and the rushed story. They should've spread the Surfer/Galactus story out across 2 movies.

*Revan* · 06-18-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

My review.

Ouch... just... ouch!

Why is it that nearly every comic book movie is hated I wonder?

*MrPliggins* · 06-18-2007, 08:14 PM

I thought it was exactly as good as I thought it'd be. I didn't expect it to be great or terrible, just somewhere in between.

The special effects on Reed were probably the worst, but I don't know how you would make it look cool....

The Surfer was done well, despite the character being dated and slightly cheesy (a silver guy surfing through space...cool in the 60s I guess)...

Didn't really like Jessica Alba as Sue, her and Reed didn't have a whole lot of chemistry. What does she see in him? Oh wait..I know...

Anyway....fun popcorn movie overall, but don't expect a masterpiece.

*Scandia* · 06-18-2007, 08:33 PM

It was awesome. Shows that you can make a good movie that lasts less than 2 hours. Galactus was quite different than the Galactus I am familiar with- the tall purple guy. Susan's wedding dress was ugly and the veil was just plain ridiculous. But otherwise it was good.

*Buslady* · 06-18-2007, 09:45 PM

Nobody can expect a comic book movie to be perfect, not even TMNT. When someone criticises a movie based on comics, I'd like to see them do better and under budget.

*ZariusTwo* · 06-18-2007, 11:14 PM

You want to see someone do better? How about I name ONE episode of the 1990's series second season that does better under budget?

"Beyond A Distant Star"

I despised the first movie, it was a commercilised satire on comic heroes, sadly the one thing Hollywood never seem to think about is the real core of the team. There a family, but in Hollywood and mindless popcorn audiences, "family"=comedy. Yes, The Thing and The Torch have fights, yes Reed and Sue have "married life" arguments, but there's also the social drama they have in the comics, the raising of a child, two now, the day to day operations of being a public, and the only PUBLIC, supehero team in New York affecting their lives on a daily basis, it's not all pomp and circumstance.

The original 1990s series made the same mistake, the first season tried looking at the FF as public superheroes, it was petty, unreallistic, and groan-inducing lines and fighting a LANDLORD over their property. The second season decided to ignore the public aspect and focused on the internal family problems, the adolescense of Johnny Storm, the frustration a domesticated Sue had, The Thing and Alicia Masters relationship deepening etc. Heck, watch the Silver Surfer series or the Galactus episodes of the 90's series second season to see how a REAL FF movie could be handled

FF 2 had no story, FF 2 felt like the first half of a longer movie that never left the middle act, and based half of it's plot on a storyline that the 1990's series had to reuse TWICE to get right. Is it better than the first? Yes, but it still spits on the legacy of the Fantastic Four with dull acting, abysmal dialouge, and commercial products, and the continuous beleif the team should be played for laughs due to the "family" dynamic.

*shuriken* · 06-18-2007, 11:24 PM

Well some comic book movies are just plain bad, not because the viewers thought they didn't stick to the comics, but because they were just bad. A lot of stuff that would be cool in comic books would not be in live action films. Just for an example, has anyone seen the Captain America movie from the eighties? It was not that great. The idea was ok, but the pacing, excecution, acting, it all sucked.
The same thing applies for the newer Punisher movie. They just drag out a simple revenge story, unnecessary. But as for the Fantastic Four movies, I have not seen.
I'm not saying that there can be no good movie based on a comic book/ graphic novel. I mean there are plenty of exaples like The Spiderman movies, Batman(although the 60s one was weak and so was Batman and Robin), Spiderman, X-Men, hell even the Crow. well I should stop now I'm just ranting...

*ZariusTwo* · 06-18-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken

mean there are plenty of exaples like The Spiderman movies, Batman(although the 60s one was weak and so was Batman and Robin)

The Adam West film is a cult masterpeice and a PRECISE adaptation of what the Batman comics were at the time, how is it "weak?"

04-22-2007, 01:12 PM	#65
majesty329 Thug Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 97	I doesn't matter to me what they do I have no plans of watching it anyway I didn't like the first and I don't see how this one can be any better. Last edited by majesty329; 04-22-2007 at 01:40 PM.

04-25-2007, 03:15 PM	#66
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	The Surfers in it and we might actually get more than one fight scene. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

04-25-2007, 04:21 PM	#67
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Not bad... __________________

04-25-2007, 04:48 PM	#69
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	Doom looks kind of like back in the 616 where he went all magic and stichy. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

06-18-2007, 06:22 PM	#70
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	Fantastic 4: 2 I didnt see a thread for this one...anybody see it yet? JUst so I can yap about it, I'll stick everything I say in spoiler tags... Spoiler: Okay...anyways, I enjoyed it. Some funny laughs...in the kitchen ben was giving alicia a cute little kiss and johnny's there watching...he's all..'so how do you....?' and ben's ran after him 'thats none of you business!' it was great! haha! flameboy was really good in it. he stood out, he's learning about this hero gig and how to handle it but he still loves the attention. yeah im not a great reviewer.... theres alot of family stuff, reed's learning to juggle family life w/ hero life...i like the family stuff. character development...and the bad guy stuff was great. the surfer is cool. i dont know much about him, galactus and all that..but i liked it on screen. i think fans of F4 will be happy with it..dont compare it to comics, things that work in comics sometimes dont work on screen. it told a cool story. And i think there'll be another. __________________

04-25-2007, 04:36 PM	#68
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I like that shot of Thing drinking three pitchers of beer.

06-18-2007, 06:25 PM	#71
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I have not seen it yet so don't spoil anything when I ask, did the PG rating hurt the movie in any way or did it work out ok? __________________

06-18-2007, 06:56 PM	#73
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	My review. I honestly hated it. Not just because of what they did to Galactus, but for the acting, the pacing, the characters and the rushed story. They should've spread the Surfer/Galactus story out across 2 movies.

06-18-2007, 08:14 PM	#75
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,051	I thought it was exactly as good as I thought it'd be. I didn't expect it to be great or terrible, just somewhere in between. The special effects on Reed were probably the worst, but I don't know how you would make it look cool.... The Surfer was done well, despite the character being dated and slightly cheesy (a silver guy surfing through space...cool in the 60s I guess)... Didn't really like Jessica Alba as Sue, her and Reed didn't have a whole lot of chemistry. What does she see in him? Oh wait..I know... Anyway....fun popcorn movie overall, but don't expect a masterpiece.

06-18-2007, 08:33 PM	#76
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	It was awesome. Shows that you can make a good movie that lasts less than 2 hours. Galactus was quite different than the Galactus I am familiar with- the tall purple guy. Susan's wedding dress was ugly and the veil was just plain ridiculous. But otherwise it was good. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

06-18-2007, 09:45 PM	#77
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	Nobody can expect a comic book movie to be perfect, not even TMNT. When someone criticises a movie based on comics, I'd like to see them do better and under budget. __________________

06-18-2007, 11:14 PM	#78
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	You want to see someone do better? How about I name ONE episode of the 1990's series second season that does better under budget? "Beyond A Distant Star" I despised the first movie, it was a commercilised satire on comic heroes, sadly the one thing Hollywood never seem to think about is the real core of the team. There a family, but in Hollywood and mindless popcorn audiences, "family"=comedy. Yes, The Thing and The Torch have fights, yes Reed and Sue have "married life" arguments, but there's also the social drama they have in the comics, the raising of a child, two now, the day to day operations of being a public, and the only PUBLIC, supehero team in New York affecting their lives on a daily basis, it's not all pomp and circumstance. The original 1990s series made the same mistake, the first season tried looking at the FF as public superheroes, it was petty, unreallistic, and groan-inducing lines and fighting a LANDLORD over their property. The second season decided to ignore the public aspect and focused on the internal family problems, the adolescense of Johnny Storm, the frustration a domesticated Sue had, The Thing and Alicia Masters relationship deepening etc. Heck, watch the Silver Surfer series or the Galactus episodes of the 90's series second season to see how a REAL FF movie could be handled FF 2 had no story, FF 2 felt like the first half of a longer movie that never left the middle act, and based half of it's plot on a storyline that the 1990's series had to reuse TWICE to get right. Is it better than the first? Yes, but it still spits on the legacy of the Fantastic Four with dull acting, abysmal dialouge, and commercial products, and the continuous beleif the team should be played for laughs due to the "family" dynamic. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

06-18-2007, 11:24 PM	#79
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Well some comic book movies are just plain bad, not because the viewers thought they didn't stick to the comics, but because they were just bad. A lot of stuff that would be cool in comic books would not be in live action films. Just for an example, has anyone seen the Captain America movie from the eighties? It was not that great. The idea was ok, but the pacing, excecution, acting, it all sucked. The same thing applies for the newer Punisher movie. They just drag out a simple revenge story, unnecessary. But as for the Fantastic Four movies, I have not seen. I'm not saying that there can be no good movie based on a comic book/ graphic novel. I mean there are plenty of exaples like The Spiderman movies, Batman(although the 60s one was weak and so was Batman and Robin), Spiderman, X-Men, hell even the Crow. well I should stop now I'm just ranting... __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

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