Suspended NFL star Michael Vick sentenced.....

[Peanut]

If he had killed people, yes; longer sentence, but he didn't. It was some dogs. As cruel as it is and all that, it's still an animal and not a human being. 23 months is plenty long for that.

[Storm Wolf]

Yes, but he will not serve that whole sentence I am sure. He will end up only serving less than half due to "good behavior". If they let him off light he might offend again.

Besides I've seen many cases where humans who can kill and torture animals in way become gutsy enough to kill anther human being. Anyone who can hurt a living thing and have no sympathy or emotion about/for it...in my opinion is someone to beware of.

[Dr. Doom]

As desensitized as I may be to voilence against humans (at the very least in fiction), I can't stand violence against animals. I get deeply disturbed if I see anything like that in a movie/game/whatever. I accidentally killed a guard dog in MGS3 and was traumatized. So needless to say, I was pretty horrified by all this. My inital reaction was also that he deserved way more time for killing a living, breathing, feeling creature, though at the same time I'll openly admit that the way I look at it isn't exactly all that logical. Nobody's perfect, I guess. If this is my worst quality then I still think that'd make me a pretty reasonable human being.

[KROW]

What I don't like is the fact that all those protesters showed up at the courthouse. If this were Joe Schmuck instead of some well-known TV personality, they wouldn't even take the time.

It just shows that they're no better than the media buzzards that cover stories like this.

And what was the purpose anyway? Especially from the PETA members. Look, you're from PETA, we know you're against cruelty to animals. We don't need any of you zealots going Al Sharpton on us. We get it. Move on.

[Dr. Doom]

Even I think PETA is kinda nuts.

[Drtooth]

Yeah.. uh... but aren't dogfights and Cockfights illegal anyway? To me if it was joe Schmo, he'd be doing a lot longer than almost 2 years. But then again, 23 months isn't bad for killing dogs. It's still more time than OJ Simpson and Robert Blake got for killing humans.

[KROW]

Aside from his initial 23 month sentence, I think Vick will suffer more in the long run. Surely he'll have a hard time returning to the NFL, let alone trying to get work doing something just to get an income because of his newfound notoriety.

So even though animal rights activists may think that he should be imprisoned longer, I think the aftermath also serves as a sidenote of justice for the dogs.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by Storm Wolf

Yes, but he will not serve that whole sentence I am sure. He will end up only serving less than half due to "good behavior". If they let him off light he might offend again.

Besides I've seen many cases where humans who can kill and torture animals in way become gutsy enough to kill anther human being. Anyone who can hurt a living thing and have no sympathy or emotion about/for it...in my opinion is someone to beware of.

I agree with you Storm. In youth especially, the torture of small animals is a tell tale sign of homicidal tendencies. Plus, this guy has a responsibility as an athlete to be a positive role model to children. The Last thing I would want is my niece or nephew beating their dogs because some ass of a sports star doesn't know how to lead by example.

As to Krow's comment. If it were some random guy, I promise you the animal rights organizations would be out there, it's just that you would never know about it because the media wouldn't care.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

If it were some random guy, I promise you the animal rights organizations would be out there, it's just that you would never know about it because the media wouldn't care.

I don't know about that. Maybe a few people might be there to advocate for animals, but I highly doubt they would dress their own animals in sandwich board signs and chant and make a huge fuss like the ones at Vick's trial did.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by KROW

I don't know about that. Maybe a few people might be there to advocate for animals, but I highly doubt they would dress their own animals in sandwich board signs and chant and make a huge fuss like the ones at Vick's trial did.

I dunno man, I know plenty of crazies who dress their dogs up for fun

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

I agree with you Storm. In youth especially, the torture of small animals is a tell tale sign of homicidal tendencies. Plus, this guy has a responsibility as an athlete to be a positive role model to children. The Last thing I would want is my niece or nephew beating their dogs because some ass of a sports star doesn't know how to lead by example.

Well, the difference between homicidal torture of animals and what Vick the D*** did is that it's for profit. It's illegal gambling. I'd bet the sentence would be the same (or maybe a little less) if it was just run of the mill illegal gambling. These people watch animals fight and bet on the winner. Both ways, none of that is moral at all.

I hate how these kind of people become role models. I mean, hell, girls still look up to Parisite Hilton and Brittney "one too many" Beers. And no one says a word about them. Our sense of moralities is so screwed up, moral now means hang ups on unimportant aspects of society in order to scare people into voting for your party.

This isn't betting on an underground human fight. Humans know the job is dangerous when they take it. they basically starve the dogs, torture them, and so forth to keep them agressive.

I really hate to side with PETA (which really has it's own fair share of problems), but 23 months seems like a slap on the wrist. I'm surprised he didn't wait long enough to find "GOD" to make it sound more significant. Seems like he would have been smart and waited 5 months into the sentence, he would have been out very soon after that. Finding God is nothing more than a "I'm going to bamboozle you" technique druggies and criminals use to sucker people into thinking they really are reformed.

Somehow I can see Vick going back and starting up another underground dog fight when this is all over. I just can.

[Buslady]

I was hoping for the maximum sentance. I think after he jail time is over he's also sentanced to work in an animal shelter cleaning up after dogs, hundreds of them. Since he likes killing dogs, he could help euthanize them too. He won't be able to get a job doing anything else.


PETA cares nothing for animals, they also kill pets - so they need to be sentanced in animal cruelty and misleading people into thinking when they surrender a pet, it will get a new home when it's killed as soon as it enters their van.

[Storm Wolf]

Buslady, I like your idea....maybe after his sentence he should do community service at animal shelters and the likes.

Well, the difference between homicidal torture of animals and what Vick the D*** did is that it's for profit. It's illegal gambling. I'd bet the sentence would be the same (or maybe a little less) if it was just run of the mill illegal gambling. These people watch animals fight and bet on the winner. Both ways, none of that is moral at all.

Well...I might have put that incorrectly....Maybe he didn't torture the dogs right out...but I think someone who can do that to a dog....or any living creature, must be a cold hearted being. How can you trust a person like that to not blow up and go to the next level without remorse?

What happens if he gets out and continues his dogfighting, some drug dealer didn't pay up. BAM! that's it. I can bet you he won't think twice about killing the dude. Just IMO.