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I swear it seems like KOTOR is the only one that did that right. At least of the ones I've played.
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Gorgeous and modest too
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So, who wants to bet the main villain will be Venom?
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I hope the villain will be Carnage. He's always been my favorite Spider-Man villain. That way you can also team up with Venom again as well.
I liked it in Elder Scrolls Oblivion and Shadow the Hedgehog, and I hear Fable and Bioshock dealt with it quite well too. It might not be that original anymore, but the games try to give you more choice. That can't be bad, right? It gives you a reason to replay a game.
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How was there any morality at all in Oblivion? No matter what you did, people didn't care and the story didn't change an inch.
"There goes the hero of Kvatch! He has killed countless innocents, but he saved that one town that one time. Remember? He's awesome!" Fable's was alright, but once again, it made no difference to gameplay or story. People would call you different things based on if you were bad or good, and your appearance would change. As far as BioShock goes, the morality in that basically amounted to absolutely zero, besides ruining the ending of the game for people who decided not harvest a single little sister. Poorly done. |
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Writer • Director
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I thought KOTOR had the best morality system. I really didn't like how they changed it in Mass Effect. I mean it was in play still and it altered the ending but the way people viewed you didn't seem to change as much. In KOTOR if you were dark side some people wouldn't even talk to you.
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That's because the story of Commander Sheppard was fully planned from start to finish. You were never meant to be bad or good in Mass Effect. You're a high ranking solider who wants nothing but to protect his species. He/she either handles things properly, or handles them in a matter that benefits his/her self, but either way it's for the good of humanity. It's not a black and white morality system the way it was in KOTOR.
In KOTOR, your character was defined by you. Were you a Jedi, or a Sith? Good or evil? That's why the story in Mass Effect is so much more focused and effective. |
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Yeah that's a good point I hadn't thought of it that way. I remember hearing Lucas Arts released a statement saying the Light Side storylines were the cannon ones for the series, which I thought was kinda pointless because the second game starts off letting you profile how you acted in the last game to Atton.
Kinda sad we will never see a 3rd installment as I was rather excited to see what happened. I can live with Mass Effect though I enjoy it quite a bit to. The idea of transferring your Sheppard over will make things very interesting. Since it logs your character at the end of the game the choice you make at the end might affect how the game begins which would be a pretty cool feature. |
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It's already been confirmed that is indeed what they're doing for the next Mass Effect. Everything will carry over.
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Back to topic, this Web Of Shadows does seem pretty cool.
I'll buy this like I bought Ultimate Spider-Man. I hope to God this doesn't suck balls like the adaptation of Spider-Man 3.
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Did anyone play Spider-man Friend or Foe? I bought it and beat it really quickly. I liked the conception but it wasn't much of a game... thoughts?
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It was a kids game. I would hope no one expected much.
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Allons-y!
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Bingo.
"His arch nemesis Venom is back, and this time, the symbiote-powered villain has figured out a nasty new trick: infecting civilians to create clones of himself."
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How come just about every Spidey game lately deals with the symbiote? Spider-man 1 for PS1 did, SM Friend or Foe did, Ultimate Spider-man sort of did, I'm getting tired of teh symbiote...
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Because he's the more recognized Spider-man villain and they hope to draw in more people by using him all the time. Same crap they tried with Spider-man 3.
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Hopefully they dont do some terrible Max Gargan bastardisation(Sp?), and its Brock. Also, I hope it doesnt suck.
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Yeah, Spider-Man for Playstation and Ultimate Spider-Man are really recent
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The newest Spider-man game, Spider-man 3, has Venom as a villain as well. I didn't play Friend Or Foe it looked like a Lego game.
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Allons-y!
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Nothing's wrong with the Lego games.
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No there isn't I have the first Lego Star Wars game I enjoyed it. I never got around to playing the others. I hear their doing Batman and Indiana Jones too.
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Mad Scientist
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The Lego games are fun, but I'm a big kid at heart. I have the SW and Indiana Jones games. They're fun and put an interesting twist on it. Check 'em out.
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