Class Surprises Lesbian Teacher on Wedding Day

[Rooish]

Well, if there is a law like that in America, nobody cares; Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist or a homosexual for president than any other group that was mentioned in this survey:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...n_or_atheist_/

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

in fact I recall there being a law stating this.

Well, I think there is a law in most secularized countries, but you can't really call the US a fully secularized country

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I really hate playing the European superiority card, but the fact that same sex marriage is still even an issue in the US is unbelievably backwards.

1) Same sex marriages are not legal everywhere in Europe.

2) Even in the countries where they are allowed, same sex marriages tend to be an issue among the more conservative crowd.

3) The US has California and I think several more states, where same sex marriages are/might be soon allowed.

To sum up - your "European superiority card" doesn't really make much sense, to be honest.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

To sum up - your "European superiority card" doesn't really make much sense, to be honest.

There's also the matter of several European countries, Sweden included, where right-wing extremist parties are growing dangerously popular...

Here in Sweden we have Sverigedemokraterna (The Sweden Democrats) and their main goal is reducing taxes by throwing out 90% of immigrants since immigrants are;

1. useless and gets too much tax-money
2. a danger to the Swedish culture and to our patriotism

Yeah, right... And of course SD also have the not so tolerant view on homosexuality...

The only thing I really can agree with them on is that Swedish immigration-policies are ****ed up... But that's as far as our agreement goes.. I wanna spend even more money on the immigrants to really try and incorporate them into our society.. Right now, we're basically accepting anyone that wants to move here, and they get financial help, but some Swedish-lessons would probably improve a hell of a lot of things, if you ask me... Which you don't... Also, I'm tired and writing too much... Good bye...

[Mecha Cow]

I don't give a damn about being 'superior'; my point was that I didn't want to come off as the stereotypical European who likes to criticize everything about the US.

[Buslady]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Maybe it's different in high school but we always used public transit for our field trips. We had a class where we had to take a bus to the bowling alley every day and we always took public transit.

Some states are different but who knows... i wouldn't be surprised if they simply couldn't afford a schoolbus.

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

lol, I love that you picked out the public transit thing. Always count on you for a unique perspective! <3

Hey no problem Arch! Always happy to please hehehe

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

My High School summer school gym teacher drove us to a bowling alley on a field trip in his own van, which had a laundry list of safety issues, and then he nearly killed us all as he decided that 10 feet in front of a stop sign was a good time to start braking. Ah, the good ol' days.

Hmmm definitely illegal. Least you guys didnt get in an accident.

The reason I'm wondering cos when you take something other than a schoolbus, the liability. If something happened to the kiddies in the transit bus, the teachers, school, principal, district, would be ruined. There's a bigger chance of kids being hurt around a transit bus cos they're not trained the same way we are, they don't have all the mirrors to look for kids as well. so...
Im gonna shut up now!

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by PAAATE

There's also the matter of several European countries, Sweden included, where right-wing extremist parties are growing dangerously popular...

Here in Sweden we have Sverigedemokraterna (The Sweden Democrats) and their main goal is reducing taxes by throwing out 90% of immigrants since immigrants are;

1. useless and gets too much tax-money
2. a danger to the Swedish culture and to our patriotism

Yeah, right... And of course SD also have the not so tolerant view on homosexuality...

RIGHT WING DEMOCRATS?!?!?! That's.... that's... Don't they just .... you know... cancell themselves out and cease to exist? Does your Arch Republican party dress in flowers and tie-dye T-shirts and say "Peace is Groovey, man?"

To quote the great Philosopher, Wade Duck... "I'm Scared!"

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

1) Same sex marriages are not legal everywhere in Europe.

2) Even in the countries where they are allowed, same sex marriages tend to be an issue among the more conservative crowd.

3) The US has California and I think several more states, where same sex marriages are/might be soon allowed.

To sum up - your "European superiority card" doesn't really make much sense, to be honest.

You might find this informative:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

Actually only several European countries allow actual same sex marriages, according to that article.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I really hate playing the European superiority card, but the fact that same sex marriage is still even an issue in the US is unbelievably backwards. While I don't approve of dragging children into politics, it's good to see them being taught some tolerance in this way. If the teacher wanted them there I see no reason why they shouldn't be; 'understanding' my ass.

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)? Why not allow brothers and sisters to marry, or parents and children? Why not allow children to marry (in Iran and undoubtedly many other countries, a girl can get married at age 13, or even as early as age 9 with parental permission)? Why not legally recognize marriage of humans and animals (yes, there are real-life cases of people who marry their pets)?

Hey, if same sex marriage is OK, you might as well accept all the rest of them.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)? Why not allow brothers and sisters to marry, or parents and children? Why not allow children to marry (in Iran and undoubtedly many other countries, a girl can get married at age 13, or even as early as age 9 with parental permission)? Why not legally recognize marriage of humans and animals (yes, there are real-life cases of people who marry their pets)?

Hey, if same sex marriage is OK, you might as well accept all the rest of them.

Haha, wow. Gay marriage isn't even the same as those things. Hahaha. Thanks for the chuckle, though.

[Rooish]

Yeah, that argument is pretty weak and tired.

Same-sex marriage is, like other marriages, a committed monogamous union. Got nothin' to do with the other stuff you said. And even if it were related, you'd have to explain to a lot of people what's wrong with polyamory.

And yeah, kind of freaked out by Austria lately (as far as European countries), don't they have several neo-Nazi groups that got quite a lot of votes in recent elections?

[GK Punk]

Now my brain hurts. Stupid is painful to read.

[Canadian Turtle]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Hey, if same sex marriage is OK, you might as well accept all the rest of them.

hahahahaha! I love this topic!

This example here is perfect to show the TERROR in the hearts of the North American culture. I just came back from working in Boston for two weeks. I had a chance to have some great political talks with some very smart people. We never spoke of this subject but I am sure he was agianst it. The underlying problem in our cultures is FEAR! But its NOT fear of gays its this stupid fear like this last person was saying "if this changes, everything will change" same goes for public health care. I have now met American's who ACTUALLY don't want it because they are TERRRRRRIFIED of Socialist values because, god forbid!! that might be mean your communist! hahaha

People in general are ignorant, they know little of the rest of the world and they are TERRIFIED of anything different or they don't understand, so if the opiate of the masses suggests something is wrong well lets shut it DOWN!

And yes I agree with the European, the Church and State are getting closer which is sending America into a new dark age and working backwards in a horrific land slide no one is aware of.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

hahahahaha! I love this topic!

This example here is perfect to show the TERROR in the hearts of the North American culture. I just came back from working in Boston for two weeks. I had a chance to have some great political talks with some very smart people. We never spoke of this subject but I am sure he was agianst it. The underlying problem in our cultures is FEAR! But its NOT fear of gays its this stupid fear like this last person was saying "if this changes, everything will change" same goes for public health care. I have now met American's who ACTUALLY don't want it because they are TERRRRRRIFIED of Socialist values because, god forbid!! that might be mean your communist! hahaha

People in general are ignorant, they know little of the rest of the world and they are TERRIFIED of anything different or they don't understand, so if the opiate of the masses suggests something is wrong well lets shut it DOWN!

And yes I agree with the European, the Church and State are getting closer which is sending America into a new dark age and working backwards in a horrific land slide no one is aware of.

If you think that creating same sex marriage won't encourage other groups to push for polygamy etc., you're crazy. Why wouldn't they say, "If gays have the right to marry, then our definition of marriage is our right too"? US law, as far as I know, has always defined marriage as between one man and one woman, with the other examples I have mentioned never being permitted. Why bother redefining marriage in the US when we have nothing to gain and everything to lose by it?

Non-Americans love to think they know us well and that we're ignoramuses, and they hate it when Americans like myself tell them that their preconceived notions about us are complete nonsense. I know this from past experience.

[Mecha Cow]

Non-Americans love to think they know us well and that we're ignoramuses, and they hate it when Americans like myself tell them that their preconceived notions about us are complete nonsense. I know this from past experience.

This is exactly what I wanted to avoid, because unlike you I don't think in terms of 'us' and 'them'. Congratulations, you're a walking stereotype.

I also love how your only argument against gay marriage is based on semantics. Really, good show. Also, stop posting. Thanks.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Non-Americans love to think they know us well and that we're ignoramuses, and they hate it when Americans like myself tell them that their preconceived notions about us are complete nonsense. I know this from past experience.

... says the guy who claims Nelson Mandela has two wives and suggests gay marriages are a straight way to the legalization of pedophilia and bestiality.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)? Why not allow brothers and sisters to marry, or parents and children? Why not allow children to marry (in Iran and undoubtedly many other countries, a girl can get married at age 13, or even as early as age 9 with parental permission)? Why not legally recognize marriage of humans and animals (yes, there are real-life cases of people who marry their pets)?

Yeah... cuz they're clearly the same thing.

Oh Noes! Marriage isn't sacred. Well, we gotta tell those guys in Vegas that get sh**faced and propose to the nearest prostitute that their marriage isn't sacred. Let's tell all those gold diggin' hos that marry so they can wait for their husbands to die to take all their money that their marriage isn't sacred.

God, I'm agreeing with everyone else. That is a bullcrap argument, with shoddy logic. The slope ain't that slippery.

We have nothing to gain or lose if it's legal or not because, unless you're gay and in a relationship...

IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOU!!!!!!

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

If you think that creating same sex marriage won't encourage other groups to push for polygamy etc., you're crazy. Why wouldn't they say, "If gays have the right to marry, then our definition of marriage is our right too"? US law, as far as I know, has always defined marriage as between one man and one woman, with the other examples I have mentioned never being permitted. Why bother redefining marriage in the US when we have nothing to gain and everything to lose by it?

Non-Americans love to think they know us well and that we're ignoramuses, and they hate it when Americans like myself tell them that their preconceived notions about us are complete nonsense. I know this from past experience.

You bring a whole new meaning to the term "bible humper".

You must have been sheltered as a kid, or raised in the South. You lost the war remember?

And hey just because it's not legal to marry doesn't mean all the red necks will stop inbreeding. Though as we can see that never turns out well.

Do you go to abortion clinics too and tell women what to do with their own bodies or are you one of the guys who stands outside of concerts and tells me I'm going to hell?

Leave your cave, the sun light might be scary but it's a lot more entertaining out here.

[poiuytre]

I've been thinking about what Chi-ha said. While I don't agree with it, I do see a point in part of the reasoning. Polygamy is deemed acceptable in several places in the world, as in a handful of religions. For what reason could we still disallow it when we're about to change the nation definition of marriage anyway? It would simply be a consensual union of legally mature people, right?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I know it's a religious thing; my point is that religion should have nothing to do with politics... in fact I recall there being a law stating this.

The constitution was based on the separation of Church and State...at least until Richard Nixon woke up one morning and realized that bigotry, hatred, and religious segregation were great ways to assure a solid party base for generations to come. Now we call something like this a "social issue". It's just another way for religious extremists to propagate their hate while preaching love and spreading their power and influence.

Love should know no boundaries.

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)? Why not allow brothers and sisters to marry, or parents and children? Why not allow children to marry (in Iran and undoubtedly many other countries, a girl can get married at age 13, or even as early as age 9 with parental permission)? Why not legally recognize marriage of humans and animals (yes, there are real-life cases of people who marry their pets)?

Hey, if same sex marriage is OK, you might as well accept all the rest of them.

Take a look at the modern-day idiot folks. It's people like you that have ruined this once great country.

Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

And yes I agree with the European, the Church and State are getting closer which is sending America into a new dark age and working backwards in a horrific land slide no one is aware of.

I know the degree varies drastically depending on what region of the country you hail from, but in my region at least, religious bigotry and hatred are everywhere. If a teacher were to try to teach children in my area about acceptance and tolerance of different people with a unique way of life such as this one did, parents would be picketing schools, and their rednecks husbands and sons would probably vandalize the place, or worse. Pastors would be on the conservative local news stations yacking about the corruption of America's youth by sin, the teacher would be forced to vacate her position, and laws would be immediately passed to force to prevent any further teachers from doing something similar.

It truly depresses me to no end to see what is happening to this country. I know people like this have been around forever, but now they've learned to focus their prejudice into a political message. America is rotting from the inside out while it's people wage a culture war over nonsense.

But to being the whole topic back around, what that teacher did brings a smile to my face. Anybody who stands up and tries to spread love and tolerance for other cultures is a hero in my book.