Class Surprises Lesbian Teacher on Wedding Day

[Jo Dawn]

I'd love a poll, too... Though we would need severe rules, because I don't think we're mature enough to handle something; seeing as we can barely handle TMNT discussions.

I'd agree to having one, but going off the rules should have immediate repurcussions. We should discuss this. (The poll. Well, both.)

[Anarky]

How about an anonymous voting thread that allows no comments? That way, it's like a real election.

Also, I am president.

As for gay marriage: I'm all for it. Not because I intend to marry a man anytime soon, but because a friend of the family's (The guy my family buys the cigarettes from, and as a kid I always went to fetch them, so he knows me ever since I was a wee lad) gay and... well, here's where the story begins.

His boyfriend of 25 years got ill and had to go to the hospital. He was put into ICU, so he had limited visitors. Only family enough. And that's the stupid law. And because his family lives about 14 hours away, he had no visitors. Natuarlly, the guy wanted to be beside his lover in times of need. But he just couldn't. Laws, you know. And there was no way of making it happen either, since homosexuals couldn't and probably still can't marry here.

And all the guy wanted was to be beside his loved one. And as soon as a law gets inbetween human relationships, it's a bad law. Since laws should be here for us, not we for them.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

RIGHT WING DEMOCRATS?!?!?! That's.... that's... Don't they just .... you know... cancell themselves out and cease to exist? Does your Arch Republican party dress in flowers and tie-dye T-shirts and say "Peace is Groovey, man?"

To quote the great Philosopher, Wade Duck... "I'm Scared!"

In many countries, there are a lot of parties, left and right, who call themselves something with "Democrats". There are liberal democrats, social democrats and many others. It don't understund why the two major political parties in the USA are called what they are called. The Republican Partys are also supposed to accept democracy and the Democratic Party doesn't work for introducing a monarchy.

[Sewer Bull]

What do we need a voting thread for, anyway?

[Anarky]

To see who would be elected according to the Drome. And I think it would work perfectly fine with a stickied, locked and anonymously polled thread.

[Sewer Bull]

Ah, yeah, presidential elections.

For a while, I thought you wanted a thread to vote for or against gay marriages.

Originally Posted by Anarky

To see who would be elected according to the Drome. And I think it would work perfectly fine with a stickied, locked and anonymously polled thread.

This is how actually all elections work, anyway.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

And why stop with same sex marriage? If we allow that, who not allow a man to marry several women, a practice common in many Asian and African nations (Nelson Mandela currently has two wives)?

Don't forget Utah.

Anyway, I'm GLAAD this is happening.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by KROW

Don't forget Utah.

Anyway, I'm GLAAD this is happening.

Gah, that was a bad pun, even for you.

[Canadian Turtle]

Well as I suggested it, a political poll would be cool but don't know how to set one up like that...

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Jester

Gah, that was a bad pun, even for you.

I thought that it was funny, but perhaps it's only funny to homos
Biggots don't , hah only kidding jest! You may not like who I love but at least you don't treat me any differntly for doing so.
I honestly don't care about Gay marriage, if I want to love my boyfriend I will regardless of who tells me I can or can't.
But with the things like Anarky said it makes a bit of sense I think though that the rules of Hospitals just need changed.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

No, it isn't the most important issue, but sooner or later folks are going to have to choose between the Constitution's view of equality of the Bible's view of equality.

I'd really love to see a voting thread.

Um, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible or any religion. Marriage is a matter of law and nothing else. And in junior high school, we had to take a test on the US Constitution to graduate, so I don't have it memorized, but I do know there is no mention of marriage anywhere in that document. The idea that same sex marriage is a matter of "equal rights" doesn't hold water. This "right" only exists if it were passed into law, and except for where such laws have been written, same sex marriage does not exist.

Don't get me wrong, I believe homosexuals have rights, such as the right to vote. Oh, wait, they've always had that.

And as for people who hate homosexuals, I've known three of them in my life, and none of them were right-wing Bible thumpers; in fact quite the opposite. One worked on an oil rig and got harrassed by two gay men; another had the bad experience of being spied on by a gay gym teacher as a schoolboy, and a third got raped as a six-year old child.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Um, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible or any religion. Marriage is a matter of law and nothing else. And in junior high school, we had to take a test on the US Constitution to graduate, so I don't have it memorized, but I do know there is no mention of marriage anywhere in that document. The idea that same sex marriage is a matter of "equal rights" doesn't hold water. This "right" only exists if it were passed into law, and except for where such laws have been written, same sex marriage does not exist.

Don't get me wrong, I believe homosexuals have rights, such as the right to vote. Oh, wait, they've always had that.

And as for people who hate homosexuals, I've known three of them in my life, and none of them were right-wing Bible thumpers; in fact quite the opposite. One worked on an oil rig and got harrassed by two gay men; another had the bad experience of being spied on by a gay gym teacher as a schoolboy, and a third got raped as a six-year old child.

So just because one Homosexual did one bad thing to a person that makes them all bad, boy way to generalize people.
I was raped as a child by a Black Straight neighbor but I'm not going around hating everyone with brown skin or straight old pedophiles.
Not everyone is the same, this is one case of bad people doing bad things to other things.
My little brother practically gets molested in high school these days by horny girls, it's so funny how our society is turning in a different direction.
You used to have to watch your daughters not you have to watch for your sons from girls tricking them into knocking them up.
Seriously your ignorance is so astounding it's unbelievable.

[Mecha Cow]

The idea that same sex marriage is a matter of "equal rights" doesn't hold water. This "right" only exists if it were passed into law, and except for where such laws have been written, same sex marriage does not exist.

And what's stopping those laws from being written in every state? If the law never changed, black people or women still wouldn't be able to vote.

And as for people who hate homosexuals, I've known three of them in my life, and none of them were right-wing Bible thumpers; in fact quite the opposite. One worked on an oil rig and got harrassed by two gay men; another had the bad experience of being spied on by a gay gym teacher as a schoolboy, and a third got raped as a six-year old child.

This brings back painful memories from when I was molested by a straw man.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by VaughnMichael

So just because one Homosexual did one bad thing to a person that makes them all bad, boy way to generalize people.
I was raped as a child by a Black Straight neighbor but I'm not going around hating everyone with brown skin or straight old pedophiles.
Not everyone is the same, this is one case of bad people doing bad things to other things.
My little brother practically gets molested in high school these days by horny girls, it's so funny how our society is turning in a different direction.
You used to have to watch your daughters not you have to watch for your sons from girls tricking them into knocking them up.
Seriously your ignorance is so astounding it's unbelievable.

Ignorance? Some people wind up far more traumatized by that sort of thing than you presumably were. Would you criticize a Jew for hating Germans who was a Holocaust survivor?

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Ignorance? Some people wind up far more traumatized by that sort of thing than you presumably were. Would you criticize a Jew for hating Germans who was a Holocaust survivor?

No, because most of them don't focus on that sh1t they moved on with their lives and became a strong people.
You can't live your life blaming others for the past.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by VaughnMichael

But with the things like Anarky said it makes a bit of sense I think though that the rules of Hospitals just need changed.

I agree with that, but then would that extend to dating heterosexuals who's loved one is sick. It's fun trying to find a middle. If you give homosexuals obvious rights, like the right to visit their partner in a hospital, why not just make it an official legal marriage. Maybe there's the way to appease religious nut job bigots like me, make the marriage more a legal contract then a binding religious sacrament, but then again, how many marriages now days aren't anything but...gahh! Beliefs being questioned, but that's a good thing. Shows growth.

[Mecha Cow]

why not just make it an official legal marriage. Maybe there's the way to appease religious nut job bigots like me, make the marriage more a legal contract then a binding religious sacrament

Yup, this is the way to go and I'm glad to see you feel this way. How religious something is depends on the people themselves, but legally speaking there shouldn't be a distinction. Of course, then you'll have people complaining about it being called something else, but that's an issue of semantics. First things first.

Would you criticize a Jew for hating Germans who was a Holocaust survivor?

Yes, I would. Germans != Nazis.

[Leogeddon]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

Ignorance? Some people wind up far more traumatized by that sort of thing than you presumably were. Would you criticize a Jew for hating Germans who was a Holocaust survivor?

Can I ask you something? Ahhh instead of waiting for the answer, I'll jump the gun with it...

Kinda like how blacks who survived the 200 years of slavery and hates all white people for holding them against their will? Yes... over 200 year-old black people... lol

[The Stryker]

Can't a guy just hate things because he wants to?

[愛]

He can, but he loses all credibility in the process, so it's rather counter-productive.