People love savings, kill dude for them.

[MrPliggins]

Holy s***...it's just STUFF! People need to get their priorities straight and stop being so damn selfish. I blame today's society and pop culture, telling us we need all this stuff. In the end, all it is is more stuff to clutter up your house.

That being said, I was at the local wal-mart opening yesterday, and I didn't think it was very crazy. The electronics section was really insane, but otherwise, it wasn't bad..and all the other stores I went to were really not very busy. I didn't see any fights, or name calling, or anything like that.

Christmas has truly lost all meaning and value when insane stuff like that happens. It's such a joke holiday. It's all about obsessive material-grabbing, and shallow family get togethers with people who smile infront of you and gossip about you behind your back.

F*** Christmas.
If you truly care enough about someone to give them a gift, do it any time of the year instead of waiting for this one mad day.
Because really, people only give others gifts on Christmas because they're expecting to get something in return. They know they're going to get stuff back.
Try giving someone a gift spontaniously on some random day in the year. THAT, my friend, would be a gift with true value and meaning because you'd be giving without expecting something in return. The true meaning of giving.

ugh... Christmas brings out the worst in people.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by Ryona

F*** Christmas.
If you truly care enough about someone to give them a gift, do it any time of the year instead of waiting for this one mad day.
Because really, people only give others gifts on Christmas because they're expecting to get something in return. They know they're going to get stuff back.
Try giving someone a gift spontaniously on some random day in the year. THAT, my friend, would be a gift with true value and meaning because you'd be giving without expecting something in return. The true meaning of giving.

Truer words have never been spoken. I have to try to remember that little life lesson.

[Peanut]

Almost everyone in this thread needs to get the f*ck over themselves.

[Ninjinister]

I give gifts to family and close friends (and sometimes even co-workers, if I feel like) spontaneously throughout the year. It's just that I amp it up for occasions such as birthdays and holidays. And for those occasions, I always make sure I've got everything way ahead of schedule; I finished Christmas shopping at the back in October.

Originally Posted by Ryona

Christmas has truly lost all meaning and value when insane stuff like that happens. It's such a joke holiday. It's all about obsessive material-grabbing, and shallow family get togethers with people who smile infront of you and gossip about you behind your back.

Like I said, holidays around here are more about celebrating the seven deadly sins than anything else.

[That Matt Guy]

What I think:

Originally Posted by Peanut

Almost everyone in this thread needs to get the f*ck over themselves.

and

I can guaran-damn-tee you that Wal-Mart doesn't give a sh*t about it's employees. I'm surprised they didn't just kick the body under the shelf.

[VaughnMichael]

I worked at Wal-Mart this past Thursday up until 6:30am, I and a few other guys had been setting the store up all night from about 10:00pm for this stupid black Friday thing.
While we didn't have anyone killed at my store, allot of the customers where in a panic and lines formed for items, a few of my fellow employees got pushed around.
We tried our best to help everyone we could by telling them where items are located.
Oh and to those of you with the bla bla bla Wal-Marts douche bags and they're so unorganized, I can't speak for every Wal-Mart around but we really planed ours out very well and made maps.
You guys praising Best Buy also have to take into consideration that store is much smaller and doesn't sell as many different types of products.
It helps to have managers and employees who are relatively smart and know the store they work in, this may sound silly but I've been to plenty of places where people who worked there could give 2 sh1ts less if they help you.
While I did have a few b1tchy customers everyone was pretty nice for the most part and very happy that we knew exactly where everything was and informed them right away if things had been sold out already.
It was insane though I've never seen so many people in one large store setting in my life, maybe at large Night Club events I've been to in days past but never a store.
Our security was heightened as well and they checked every single person coming into and leaving the store and every person was checked on the way out. Sadly a black woman went all b1tch fest 2008 on one of our door greeters because she asked to see her receipt, I'm not sure if many more things like this went on but the woman was seriously out of hand and throwing a temper tantrum and claiming it was only being done because of the color of her skin.
Anyway this was insane and I hope I never have to work it again.

Originally Posted by That Matt Guy

I can guaran-damn-tee you that Wal-Mart doesn't give a sh*t about it's employees. I'm surprised they didn't just kick the body under the shelf.

Do you work at or for a Wal-Mart?
While the higher up people more than likely don't give 2 flips about those of us at the bottom of the ladder, the employees at my store are like a family and we'd always protect the other and we did just that when things got out of hand a bit here on Thursday.
It was nothing as serious as this but when push came to shove we said hey back the f4ck off.

Oh and just so people know I wouldn't defend Wal-Mart they are douches for sure but many of us that work there bust our @sses to support ourselves and are really good caring people.

[Sage Ninja]

thankyou I feel the same way. I can't stand Wal-Mart or their policies at times and higher-ups don't give to sh*ts about the employees working their their floors. But the actual people who work in the store and the managers do care about each other well fare. And we really do bust our butts to get our meager checks and help the store and custmomers when we can.

Unfourtunalty some customers have the mentality that unless you're walking two steps behind them with bucket for them to piss in you aren't giveing them good customer service. I don't know where this over sence of entitlement came from in Walmart customers but I've never worked at another retail store where so many custmers through raving hissy fits or try to threaten employees when things aren't happening as quickly as they want or we ran out of Baby Alive their kid despretley wants.

And your right Vaughn it helps alot if there are assiocites on the floor that know where things are and are up to date with what in stock. The problem is with Wal-Mart at least in my area, I'm not sure if this an issue where you work, is that Wal-Mart is under staffed. They keep cutting back hours and schedualing to few people to work on the floor that the people who are working to get stretched to thin, and you can't give good customer service if you are doing several things at once and watching four departments while taking care of their custmers.

[That Matt Guy]

Originally Posted by VaughnMichael

Do you work at or for a Wal-Mart?
While the higher up people more than likely don't give 2 flips about those of us at the bottom of the ladder, the employees at my store are like a family and we'd always protect the other and we did just that when things got out of hand a bit here on Thursday.
It was nothing as serious as this but when push came to shove we said hey back the f4ck off.

Oh and just so people know I wouldn't defend Wal-Mart they are douches for sure but many of us that work there bust our @sses to support ourselves and are really good caring people.

No, I work for your competition. And I did mean the big wigs not caring about the employees, I'm sure all of the grunts are good people.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Almost everyone in this thread needs to get the f*ck over themselves.

Why more people don't listen to you I'll never know.

People are evil and terrible everywhere! Except me, I know better.

[Spitfire]

The economy is in the can and people have money to waste on Christmas gifts. Mobs in general are stupid but it's rare someone gets killed in one.

I live in San Fransisco which sometimes feels the capital of mobs and protests. I watched Tibet protesters get run over by a bus. One of them got dragged along side of it while he tried to slash it's tires. I saw people protest the Olympics, I saw fights break out over Prop 8, and I've seen the ever so famous war protests. People throw stuff, get in fights, get threatened with nightsticks and guns. The ones in front of the Chinese embassy were heated.

This stuff happens but there's worse things. One person dieing in a store mob hardly stacks up to something like a bunch of children getting butchered with machetes in Darfur. I did a report on that for English class, some of that is hard to read even for me.

[Buslady]

so what did one of the protesters jump out in front of the bus? idiot. just give the driver nightmares...

didnt hear about that one

all this just goes to show how horrible people are. it's too bad that bad news is news, when good news they dont bother to report or RARELY even touch upon.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Buslady

so what did one of the protesters jump out in front of the bus? idiot. just give the driver nightmares...

Actually no someone was trying to plow through the crowd using the bus.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by MrPliggins

Holy s***...it's just STUFF! People need to get their priorities straight and stop being so damn selfish. I blame today's society and pop culture, telling us we need all this stuff. In the end, all it is is more stuff to clutter up your house.

This has always been a factor. In fact, didn't this pretty much happen like several times before this? of COURSE the holidays are commercial and humans are greedy. All the stuff we're all buying is probably made with some sort of slave or child labor.

The thing that I'm most concerned about was that TRU shooting. It was clearly gang relates, or a premeditated dispute. Even then, Dammit... if you have to carry guns around in a KID'S store, then you're sick. And letting Gang crap or some sh** you hold against some one FIRE the things in a place crowded with kids.... I'm surprised that didn't get half the coverage on national news.

That said, I was out yesterday, and it didn't look all that different to me. Mall was a little crowded... but then again that was 2 o clock after all that stuff.