Least Loved TMNT Episodes!

[Jester]

If you're looking for a groan inducing episode, then the Easter episode is it...all the lame egg and bunny jokes you could want.

[NameGoesHere1066]

Originally Posted by Cipher

"Leonardo, Renaissance Turtle" is probably the most unwatchable episode I can remember at the moment.

I actually really liked this episode. It had leo trying to defeat the bad guy all by himself and useing his own smarts. Alot of the time in the OT it was Donatello that came to the rescue and was the resouceful guy, putting Leo (the supposed leader) in the shadows. Plus this episode had the added bonus of having Rex-1 in it. And I've always liked him, and his cute crush on April.

Though I really hated the episode where every one acts like children and monkeys. I also didn't like the episode where Irma get blown up into a giant. Yikes! And perhaps most of season five.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

Though I really hated the episode where every one acts like children and monkeys.

Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop? I thought that episode was funny enough. Maybe it's just nostalgia, since I remember having that one on VHS as a kid.

And perhaps most of season five.

I've noticed most people share this opinion. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I really like season five overall. Mostly fore its sheer volume of one-off mutants.

[Candy Kappa]

never been a fan of the old toon so I'd say the first 5 episodes are okay the rest is "M'eh"

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Jester

If you're looking for a groan inducing episode, then the Easter episode is it...all the lame egg and bunny jokes you could want.

Any Hokum Hare episode is bound to suck. As they said in the first movie, "Ninja kick the damn rabbit!"

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

Any Hokum Hare episode is bound to suck. As they said in the first movie, "Ninja kick the damn rabbit!"

The second one is ok, because it has Shredder taking over a future with decrepit future Turtles.

[Cowabunga Kiefer]

Eh, some episodes were bad, but as long as Raphael had something smart to say and made me laugh, then it was worth it. I never really enjoyed though how they made the plot come together like in the premiere episode of Leatherhead, the turtles visit the frogs in Florida, then we see Krang and Shredder talking in the Technodrome saying we have to destroy these turtles. Suddenly, Krang: "So this is what the Florida swamp looks like, wait what's this?! The Turtles!!!" But as unbelievable as these weird coincidences were, they had to come up with something! Oh yeah, Mr. Ogg Goes To Town was pretty disappointing.

[MrPliggins]

And oh yeah, April and Irma just happen to be vacationing there, too....lol.

[Jester]

Ok...I was watching season 5 and 2 episodes made me ask the question: "Why not Bebop and Rocksteady?"

In Napoleon: Colossus of the Swamp, Napoleon is turned into a Hulk-esque super mutant. After seeing Napoleon's reaction, Shredder plans to use his weapon on the TMNT but... why not Bebop and Rocksteady?

And in Muckman Messes Up, the Mutagen that creates Muckman and Joe Eyeball has a Kryptonite-esque effect on the Green Team, but...why not Bebop and Rocksteady?

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Jester

In Napoleon: Colossus of the Swamp, Napoleon is turned into a Hulk-esque super mutant. After seeing Napoleon's reaction, Shredder plans to use his weapon on the TMNT but... why not Bebop and Rocksteady?

They'd probably screw it up.

And in Muckman Messes Up, the Mutagen that creates Muckman and Joe Eyeball has a Kryptonite-esque effect on the Green Team, but...why not Bebop and Rocksteady?

They'd probably screw it up too.... they are Bebop and Rocksteady, after all.

And oh yeah, April and Irma just happen to be vacationing there, too....lol.

Hey didn't the writers have a sarcastic aside to that plot point?

[Cowabunga Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

I hate that episode with the singing guy who looks like Woody Allen... or is it Woody Alan? Either way, I hate that guy and I hate that episode.

Yeah, his first episode (Name That Toon) was pretty lame, but hey the only thing I really liked about it that made it stand out was when Donatello and Shredder are fighting in his condo. Donatello totally jabs his bo staff into Shredder's face, with Shredder yelling in agony and falling to the floor. It was freakin' hilarious!

[Ninjafromanotherseries]

Here is my list:

New York's Shiniest
Didn´t like Rex-1 at all and April is pretty stupid by trying to reveal what is police secret weapon.

Mutagen Monster
Just didn´t like it, I guess one of the main reasons is that they spent too much time in the rail road area.

Turtles of the Jungle
King Kong Donatello and lots of other stupid scenes.

Michaelangelo Toys Around
Awful, horrible episode.

The Gang's All Here
Very stupid idea turning turtle into a human and being human means losing ninja skills?

Name That Toon and Menace, Maestro Please
Any episode with Howie is awful but latter was bearable.

Donatello Makes Time
Very lame and possibly worst evil scientist villain

Poor Little Rich Turtle
I hated that little whiny brat.

Unidentified Flying Leonardo
Really bad episode but villain and his plan was so ridicilous it saved this episode a bit.

I havent seen many episodes beyond episode 111 but I´m working on to watch every episode. Also I have to defend two episodes listed in this thread. Rebel Without a Fin was good episode, Ray was really funny villain, or more of a anti-villain, he just did bad things he had nothing better to do. Leonardo Lightens Up personality modificator was stupid gadget but funny episode. This episode is almost like Take me to your leader but this is good too. It was funny to see Leonardo taking it easy and not caring about stuff.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Ninjafromanotherseries

Also I have to defend two episodes listed in this thread. Rebel Without a Fin was good episode, Ray was really funny villain, or more of a anti-villain, he just did bad things he had nothing better to do. Leonardo Lightens Up personality modificator was stupid gadget but funny episode.

I completely agree with both of these. "Rebel Without a Fin" is a decently fun one-off mutant episode, with some actual fighting to boot. And "Leonardo Lightens Up" is one of my favorite episodes, probably the funniest in the series.

Just when you think it can't get anymore ridiculous, Splinter challenges Leo to a skateboarding contest! It doesn't get more awesome than that.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Jester

Watching The Gang's All Here, why didn't they Turtles feed an Anti-Mutagen cookie to Splinter to turn him back to Hamato Yoshi? And since when did being a Turtle become the contributing factor to the TMNT being Ninjas? I thought it was the training from Splinter. If it's not, then why do they even need to train or have a sensi. And what "powers" do they have?

EDIT: Oh, right the cookies exploded, but they only found that out after Mikey ate one.

YES! That is EXACTLY what I thought, too! Even Splinter took notice of the cookies, but said absolutely nothing! Wasn't one of the OT's biggest plot points to return Splinter into his human form?

So, ya... "The Gang's All Here" easily takes it for me. And I found it amusing how many others here seem to share my disdain for the episode.

I'll admit that some time ago, I was trying to prove a point about something in a humorous way in a different thread, but got caught up in mostly bashing this episode because of how little sense it makes:

Originally Posted by Clown Prince of Crime

But, if we use the natural laws of nature found within the universe of the old toon, this sort of thing is definitely possible. Even though the mutations from the old toon claim to be scientific, it's quite obvious that they're actually magical. Take the episode "The Gang's All Here", for example. In that episode, Michelangelo eats cookies that Shredder made that cause him to turn human (as well as lose his "turtle powers"... which I never understood, because I always assumed they got their skills from Ninjutsu and not from being turtles). Now, to make sure he doesn't end up naked, he put on a Hawaiian shirt and some shorts. That seems logical, but... then there's things that make no sense at all.

See, here's the thing. The mutation is unstable, so Mikey keeps going back and forth between turtle and human. The problem is that he's barefoot as a turtle, but magically gains shoes as a human. Even more confusing is that as a human, he doesn't have his orange mask, wristbands, elbow pads, and knee pads. They magically disappear... but then magically reappear when he mutates back into a turtle.

Therefor, the explanation for the illogical mutations of these old figures is simple. The old toon mutations were actually magical transformations disguised as scientific transformations.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's probably the best episode out of all of those "Turtles as Babies" storylines. At least this time you get April faced with some semblence of motherhood and Krang thinking more about eliminating his competition

That was the lamest thing about it though. WHAT competition??? Shredder and Krang have always had their schemes and evil plans which never had the mob interfere in any way, and now suddenly Krang wants to get rid of the 'competition'? Shouldn't he defeat the Turtles first? Getting rid of the mob will no nothing to stop the Turtles or get the Technodrome back to the surface. Another thing was also the fact that there was no antidote but then in the last few minutes of the show ending it's revealed plain old water is the cure. I call shenanigans. In most cartoons a blast of some kind is usually reversed by a blast of another kind. Not just splashing into seawater...

Originally Posted by Jester

And in Muckman Messes Up, the Mutagen that creates Muckman and Joe Eyeball has a Kryptonite-esque effect on the Green Team, but...why not Bebop and Rocksteady?

Originally Posted by Drtooth

They'd probably screw it up too.... they are Bebop and Rocksteady, after all.

I think Jester was asking why weren't Bebop and Rocksteady also weakened when around Muckman and Joe Eyeball.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Ninjafromanotherseries

Here is my list:


Name That Toon and Menace, Maestro Please
Any episode with Howie is awful but latter was bearable.

For the record, did you mean to say "the former was bearable"? I actually do like Name That Toon, mostly on account of the great animation and fight scenes. But Menace, Maestro is certainly one of the five worst episodes in the old toon, IMO. Animation bad, plot bad (The Phantom of the Sewers executed that concept better), musical number was bad, and of course... it had Howie!

Originally Posted by Ninjafromanotherseries

I havent seen many episodes beyond episode 111 but I´m working on to watch every episode. Also I have to defend two episodes listed in this thread. Rebel Without a Fin was good episode, Ray was really funny villain, or more of a anti-villain, he just did bad things he had nothing better to do. Leonardo Lightens Up personality modificator was stupid gadget but funny episode. This episode is almost like Take me to your leader but this is good too. It was funny to see Leonardo taking it easy and not caring about stuff.

I agree, both of those episodes were fine, although I wish Rebel Without a Fin had better animation and Ray had been used better. Also, that episode has some very weird fade-to-black transitions.

Worst of the Old Toon:

Honorable Mention:
The Turtles and the Hare (seems like a wasted opportunity to use Usagi again although we DID get to see Bebop and Rocksteady in bunny outfits)
Funny, They Shrunk Michaelangleo (primarily bad on account of the squeaky voices on shrunken characters)
Raphael Vs. the Volcano (primarily bad on account of the animation, although the plot isn't much better, but at least we learn April knows how to fix a helicopter.. which is pretty impressive)
Poor Little Rich Turtle (yeah, that girl was annoying...)

5. Rondo in New York (although I do appreciate a good Rambo parody, pity it was so poorly executed... I'm looking especially at YOU, animation!)
4. Back to the Egg (the baby Turtle thing just didn't work for me, although I think the plot "could" have worked)
3. Michaelangelo Toys Around (Yeah, nothing like silly kids and toys that want to kill you)
2. Menace, Maestro Please
1. The Gang's All Here (If Lionsgate was going to intentionally leave off an episode, this should have been the one!)

[CyberCubed]

Michaelangelo turning into a human did effect his ninja skills. Remember he got put into the body of what looked like a frail teenager, his Turtle body was a lot more muscular.

He tried to lift up Rocksteady (?) by the arm and couldn't do it, simply because his human body had no strength.

I think people missed that point.

[shuriken]

Gang's all here and April foolish. Sky turtles was pretty lame too. Although i still laugh when Rocksteady passes out due to smelling his own sock. As for Rebel without a fin, I had no Idea that was Ray Filet, his voice just seemed so out of character though.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Michaelangelo turning into a human did effect his ninja skills. Remember he got put into the body of what looked like a frail teenager, his Turtle body was a lot more muscular.

He tried to lift up Rocksteady (?) by the arm and couldn't do it, simply because his human body had no strength.

I think people missed that point.

Yes, but why? They make it seem that as a TURTLE Mikey had special powers. Yes, he was a frail waif of a human, but that frail human would still have years of ninja training.

I think someone missedf that point.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yes, but why? They make it seem that as a TURTLE Mikey had special powers. Yes, he was a fraiul waif oif a human, but that frail human would still have years of ninja training.

I think someone missedf that point.

He also had to adapt to his new body. In the beginning of the episode he tries to skateboard and he can't really do that either. He had to weigh a lot more as a Turtle than as a human.

Yeah, I do agree the writer of that ep didn't handle it too well but that ep is far from the disaster people make it out to be. Especially since the subplot of April and those gang members was pretty interesting.